official i love music thread for AEROPLANE

i guess i shouldn't have slept till 2 pm today

Playing in Philly tomorrow night w/ a Juan Maclean DJ set. Should I go? Convince me to go; I've never really listened to either.

Do you like hands-in-the-air disco and piano house and cowbells?

go! both have been super-fun when i've seen them.

Juan's DJ Kicks is fantastic, so I presume his DJ set can be too. And going by their monthly mixes I'd definately want to check out Aeroplane. If not fun for dancing, you could do some running around the floor - I find their mixes great to run to.

Now that's a double bill I might actually enjoy more than aErolplane.

Saw Aeroplane in Manchester last year. Erol was on straight after. I walked into the Juan Maclean room when Erol took the stage. It was a great decision.

Really depends on what Erol is doing. When I saw them together, he was doing a Disco 3000 set (not the usual rapey nanorobot shit) and it just went so well.

I would just avoid Erol on principle these days, just because of the high probability of rapy nanorobot shit. Also his fans are by and large knobs.

This is unfortunately true. :-(

The only way to see him do a good set is to go to a set where he's not billed as Erol Alkan - a) if it's one of the side projects the knobs don't know about and b) he might actually play some decent music - the 6Mixes have been good, though. Just have to pry him out of Boys Noize's jock and make him do something interesting again.

I'm currently debating whether I want to go see Aeroplane at Death Disco in a fortnight - I do love them, but I don't love Death Disco and its mix of ear-bleedy bloghouse and hipsters posing for photo-blogs. If only The Juan MacLean was billed as well...

My friend should already have bought my half price DD ticket. Loathe the club in general but can't help it. Will never top that Stereo performance last year.

Also when Aeroplane played DD New Year the crowd didn't care because he wasn't Erol.

The half-price issue is exactly why I'm debating it now and not in two weeks when it's actually happening, like fuck am I paying full-price for a DD ticket.

was hoping for more out of this breakbot remix but hey it happens

wth is rapey nanorobot shit?

the loutishly aggressive stuff Erol plays to the big crowds

Oh god like DEATH SUITE?? God!

was hoping for more out of this breakbot remix but hey it happens

― 156, Wednesday, 9 June 2010 23:59 (2 days ago

I quite like it. Not their best by a long way though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mvSHevf68o

Rapey nanorobot = all that hyper-aggressive Boys Noize type "BANG BANG BANG no subtlety no dimension ARGH did he just manage to play a Major Lazer remix that was even WORSE than the original? god make it STOP my head my head" crap that he plays when he does big shows. It's like... take Justice's most annoying song (and hey, I like Justice) and run it through bitcrusher. (Yeah, I said Death Suite sounded like being fuX0red to death by angry nanorobots and he took it as a COMPLIMENT so that's the kind of thing you're dealing with yuck yuck yuck.)

The complete opposite of the Aeroplane aesthetic, mind you, so I don't know why I'm talking about it here. Sorry.

Erol didn't play all this nanorobot stuff when he DJd at Trash did he? What was the point where he moved from DJing melodic song based stuff into this hard dance sound?

Oh, Erol has some bug up his arse about wanting to keep the whole "Trash aesthetic" pure (of, you know, playing an interesting mixture of all kinds of music, indie and pop and dance etc. - you know, what he got famous for?) and not export it or do it at Festivals and big gigs because that would, like, compromise his art or his brand or something. I have no idea as to this reasoning, because he gets really defensive and bitchy if you actually ask him about it.

I dunno, it's just weird that he would spend so long cultivating this whole distinctive and exclusive... *thing* with Trash (though I've shot my mouth off on this messageboard before about that, and the whole "dress codes and bouncers" bullshit) and then so gleefully dismantle and destroy it under the guise of "protecting" it.

But, I guess if I were in his position, and I found myself suddenly playing to thousands of exactly the kind of knobs who used to beat up the people who went to "my" club, then I might get protective and insular about "my" music as well. Or something.

I suppose it's his version of "playing all the single a-sides" at Wembley, and "doing the b-sides" at Dingwalls. (a'la Blur)

I know which gig I'd rather go to, but ask the genpop and they'd say different. I guess...

It wasn't Dingwalls, it was the Electric Ballroom. And I know, because I was at that gig. (And Wembley as well, mind you.)

(I knew you were (sulk), I was just guessing as I couldn't recall)

So aside from the 'Trash brand' stuff, Erol played *some* of this noisy hard stuff at Trash and then decided that was the sound that would work in big clubs/festivals? (Not true surely: 2ManyDJs, Aeroplane, Villa etc all manage a great crowdpleasing mix of non-earbleed danceable songs.)

I'd love to read his thoughts and reasoning on it all as it seems crazy to take his wide-ranging and ectastic DJing style then cut it all down to 90% pummelling technonoize. I caught his set over the weekend and it was the usual relentless beats until the Atrak remix of YYYs whereupon the tent went crazy, camera flashes everywhere, people singing along, really going for it, then another 20 minutes of angry techno and nodding heads. Is it just a drug thing? It clearly works as he's headlining bills everywhere, I just don't *get* it.

This doesn't apply to his BTWS and Disco 3000 sets btw, one of my favourite clubbing experiences of the past few years was dancing in a half-full sideroom to this.

I reckon that after 45 minutes of the rapey nosebleed nanorobot shit, people are so freaking RELIEVED to hear some electro banger they recognise that they go nuts.

But anyway, this is an Aeroplane thread, not an Erol thread. I will get back on topic by saying I just listened to Erol's last 6mix and he played a new(?) Aeroplane remix. And it had awful Van Halen's Jump keyboards on it. The end.

You can d/l that Erol mix here

T/L:

1. Jamie Lidell – Telephone (Tiga Remix)
2. Teenage Bad Girl – Ton Ton Funk
3. Boy 8-Bit – Cricket Scores
4. Peter Visti – Stars (Rodion And Mamerella Remix)
5. Tame Impala – Solitude Is Bliss (Midnight Juggernauts Remix)
6. ? – The String
7. All Night – VOLTAGE (AZARI & Iii REMIX)
8. Amari – Tiger (Cecile Remix)
9. Breakbot – Baby I’m Yours (Aeroplane Remix)
10. Lio – Sage Comme Une Image (Bottin Edit)
11. Joris Voorn – The Secret
12. The Chemical Brothers – Swoon (Boys Noize Remix)
13. Ariel Pink’s Haunted Graffiti – Round And Round]
14. Spectral Display – It Takes A Muscle To Fall In Love (Get A Room Edit)
15. Connan Mockasin – Forever Dolphin Love (Invisible Remix)
16. Late Of The Pier – Blueberry (Simon Bookish Mix)

I;ve only seen Erol DJ twice. The first was a largely electrotechnoize bollocks set, which completely didnt work after Fithy Dukes had played a great set of current pop/dance/club hits (actual songs! varied beats!).

The second was in a Turkish Restaurant in Dalston, and Erol was amazing - he played tracks across genres/decades/languages - I remember losing it to Laura Branigan's "Self Control" - like a much more relaxed 2 Many DJs set. In this guise he was awesome.

That Simon Bookish remix is AMAZING. It's weird, he's been around forever but in the past couple of years his music just seems to have gone exponential in terms of quality. Also really liked that Boy 8-Bit song. Need to look up more of his stuff although that pains me.

Was that at the Stone Cave? That might have been a Disco 3000 set, but yeah. It's like he's two different people. You catch one set and it's Turkish prog one minute and some obscure disco edit the next and then a Manics B-side from 1994 as remixed by Stereolab. And then you see him in a big tent and it's CRAP. I don't get it.

Yeah in the Stone Cave - two years ago ( i think ) (first Land of Kings - or as I call it "Lords Of Dalston". fest).

And I guess, the lesson is only see Erol when its billed as "Disco3000"?

Or "Beyond the Wizards Sleeve" (though that will involve Richard Norris as well - which to me is an added bonus) or if he specifically says he's gonna play "weird stuff."

The Bugged Out (London branch) backroom era was when he played bits of electro noise aswell as hits. There was never any noise as such @ Trash aside from the odd electro track.
http://www.erolalkan.co.uk/music/podcasts.rss

Just before the release of their highly anticipated debut album ‘We Can’t Fly’ Belgian duo Aeroplane have decided to go their separate ways. Aeroplane will now continue as a solo effort for Vito De Luca while ex-partner Stephen Fasano moves on to other projects. Of the split De Luca said, “It’s quite simple, Aeroplane has existed a little less than three years but me and Stephen have been working together for eight. During this time we’ve started projects, stopped them, and started new ones. Aeroplane was on of these projects. The reason why it’s me taking care of Aeroplane is I’m more the studio guy and I’ve been really busy with the album. There’s no anger, no fight, it’s all cool. It may seem strange doing this just before the album appears but we could either do it now or after the album, we couldn’t do it in the middle. If we did it after it would have meant waiting for two years so, it’s a bit brutal, but we decided the album can be the start of what Aeroplane’s going to be from now on.”

http://www.mixmag.net/content/aeroplane-split

Oh, man. :-(

OK, it does make sense, because the studio guy/club DJ guy dichotomy was beginning to become more apparent. But it's still a bit sucky.

they must fcking hate each other to do that pre debut LP.

Thank goodness we're still getting that album though.

I don't think it's "fucking hate each other" so much as "one dude likes to stay home and muck about with his synths while the other likes to jet around the world playin' records and sippin' cocktails with Erol and Alex Ridha" which are not really compatible lifestyles for two dudes trying to promote a record.

Doubt this will make much difference at all tbh.

Man.. they seemed to be getting along just fine @ Clique last month...

http://www.clubclique.co.uk/gallery/current/10.html

god bless them whatever happens next.

http://www.clubclique.co.uk/gallery/current/10.html

such a great photo!! : )

clique looks fun! will have to try to go there sometime when i go to manc.

btw, who is who in that photo?

Vito on the right I think.

How, if at all, is this affecting their lined-up dates etc?

Already knowing that I'd never pay money to see Erol Alkan, how are AEROPLANE's sets?

p. sick both times I've seen them

Better not affect Saturday night. Xposts

on their right, not the photo's right (xpost)

If we did it after it would have meant waiting for two years so, it’s a bit brutal

what does this mean? like two years of touring after the album?

Mm i think that's the idea. The only precedent i can think of for this in my lifetime is Thieves/ Mcalmont's album. Album was already in the can, rave reviews for their early singles, massive press hype.. then the 2of them split and the album became a solo project.