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yeah, i don't know, maybe emphatic isn't it. more like i feel they've got more dynamic, rounder deliveries. hard to explain, and also hard to prove to a tupac fan :P

django weingart (samosa gibreel), Monday, 24 May 2010 20:49 (thirteen years ago) link

rounder?

upper mississippi sh@key mo (The Reverend), Monday, 24 May 2010 20:55 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm going to go listen to some tupac to make sure i'm not just making this up, but like, gucci's general enunciation and delivery is pretty uniform, whereas boosie stretches words out and raps louder, more comfortable or adventurous with his vocal chords. like half the pleasure is just hearing his voice. i feel similarly about biggie.

jordan's analogy is more concrete and not maybe just my imagination, still feel like there's something here though.

django weingart (samosa gibreel), Monday, 24 May 2010 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link

my flows are pleasantly plump...KELLY OSBOURNE

m@tt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 24 May 2010 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link

pac does all that too tho. and i would definitely think of biggie's delivery as "more uniform" (tho obviously less so that gucci, who kind of makes a point of it) than pac's

upper mississippi sh@key mo (The Reverend), Monday, 24 May 2010 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link

jordan's analogy makes way more sense

upper mississippi sh@key mo (The Reverend), Monday, 24 May 2010 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link

on a side note, wiz khalifa was born in north dakota.

upper mississippi sh@key mo (The Reverend), Monday, 24 May 2010 21:11 (thirteen years ago) link

ok listening to tupac now and i definitely stand by what i said. it's got more to do with what type of rapper they are than some overreaching similarity dividing them from the rest of rap, and yeah gucci is definitely the worst of the lot in that regard (although i prefer him to pac)

django weingart (samosa gibreel), Monday, 24 May 2010 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link

on a side note, wiz khalifa was born in north dakota.

― upper mississippi sh@key mo (The Reverend), Monday, May 24, 2010 9:11 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

woah 4 realz?? that's crazy

m@tt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 24 May 2010 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link

xp i can't even parse that

upper mississippi sh@key mo (The Reverend), Monday, 24 May 2010 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link

whatever, i think if you feel that

pac does all that too tho. and i would definitely think of biggie's delivery as "more uniform"

that's the opposite of how i feel and what i'm trying to express and it's just a matter of *perception* or whatever

django weingart (samosa gibreel), Monday, 24 May 2010 21:37 (thirteen years ago) link

no really, i don't understand what your previous post was trying to say

upper mississippi sh@key mo (The Reverend), Monday, 24 May 2010 21:38 (thirteen years ago) link

oh, just that i feel like these are broader categories i could fit a bunch of (maybe all) rappers in (those who have more straightforward delivery/vocalization and those who dont) rather than something unique to boosie & biggie/gucci & pac. and also that while i agree with you that gucci has the most uniform and least danymic delivery, i like him better than tupac.

django weingart (samosa gibreel), Monday, 24 May 2010 21:42 (thirteen years ago) link

ah okay, thx for clarification :)

upper mississippi sh@key mo (The Reverend), Monday, 24 May 2010 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link

np

django weingart (samosa gibreel), Monday, 24 May 2010 22:06 (thirteen years ago) link

so Rick Ross has been doing some interesting shit that I feel like is really similar to what (PARTLY) propelled Jay-Z to his current status as indie fandom's favorite stadium rapper by bringing in fashion/style/cultural influences from the vanguard of culture BUT he's actually rapping BETTER now than ever, rather than worse than ever, and also he's doing within a hip-hop framework rather than pop...like when Jay reached into the drake/kid cudi "hit songs by rappers that aren't rap songs" formula on BP3

kinda interesting, also curious that it doesn't seem to be making much noise (granted it's only been a couple songs and he had the misfortune of naming his first foray into this new style after a gaudy, way over the top Robb Report watch brand Audemars Piguet rather than the ultra-hip designers he's been name-checking lately)

also his new outfits are totally lol

all black mink puffy fur vest > all black anything

surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Monday, 24 May 2010 22:10 (thirteen years ago) link

or maybe none of that is true i dont know

i guess "on the next one" is hip-hop more than pop and is arguably his most "avant" single/video from that group

surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Monday, 24 May 2010 22:15 (thirteen years ago) link

haha saw that picture, figured he was going for an isaac hayes thing

m@tt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 24 May 2010 22:19 (thirteen years ago) link

vado ft. young chris 0_o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp-W4IsQn5E

surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 00:54 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah j0rdan & i have discussed that pac=boosie biggie=gucci theory before, it makes sense in a reductive way -- i think pac>biggie but gucci>boosie tho

its like why GROCERY BAG and not saddam? (deej), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 00:54 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i think the analogy makes sense but i definitely don't think there's any correlation between people who like Boosie more also liking Pac more etc. (for me it's Boosie/Biggie).

every night i tell myself i am the custos, i am the wind. (some dude), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 01:02 (thirteen years ago) link

rolling tenuous analogies thread

surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 01:21 (thirteen years ago) link

and anyway lil b is the new pac just ask these guys

surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 01:25 (thirteen years ago) link

the "slow down" beat is so fucking good, i wish every rapper would rap on it

"shoes fresh out the plastic/ clean as alexander mcqueen in a casket" is truly next level from the bawse

mr. milquetoast (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 07:51 (thirteen years ago) link

i was thinking of this more and more and last night it hit me that the pac/biggie analogy doesn't really work

cuz Gucci really most reminds me of a down south MF Doom, that's the rapper he most reminds me of

they both have these same cadences, very identifiable cadences they use a lot, and both sort of thrive on left-field punchlines and odd word choices

m@tt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 14:26 (thirteen years ago) link

new TI bangs

http://usershare.net/xopd49awg822

sisilafami, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i was gonna say that there's a high probability that the album is awesome but then i read there's a new joint with keri hilson so who knows

mr. milquetoast (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link

den we landin laughin
chicks with fantastic asses

django weingart (samosa gibreel), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link

goons, I am behind on rap and making a list of albums/mixtapes I need to get around to checking

Devin the Dude
Fabolous
Gucci Mane
Reflection Eternal
Wiz Khalifa
Young Jeezy
Z-Ro & Friends

help me add to it if neccessary

upper mississippi sh@key mo (The Reverend), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 18:40 (thirteen years ago) link

the hilson-t.i. song is not good, but yeah know (takers) is dope

lol dope (Tape Store), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 18:55 (thirteen years ago) link

TI is definitely elevating lately.

forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link

he's going extremely hard IMO

m@tt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link

also, could a goon send me an 77 invite? i started a new account.

m@tt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link

The new Royce and Big Sean track is pretty nice. http://usershare.net/pcmpypjl09nr

"Leanin' on the moon with a Patron fifth playing my own shit... AND I SOUND FANTASTIC!"

rennavate, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link

you're all set Matt.

forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Have we talked about Lil B's "The Age of Information"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=corY-FZAZog&feature=player_embedded

The beat is absolutely gorgeous, and how it flips throughout the song? B's a fucking dope producer. And he's rapping on this... like actually rapping rapping. I like it.

rennavate, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 04:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Scratch that -- I don't like this. I love it. This song is fucking great.

rennavate, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 04:20 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah this is really good -- i like the dissonance b/w the primo-ish vibe of the track & then b rapping about the internet -- shit comes off like a cormega track tho -- weird & good look imo

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 26 May 2010 04:22 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm on computers profusely
searchin on the internet for answers
give it to me

^i feel this one deep in my heart

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 26 May 2010 04:25 (thirteen years ago) link

i like how he pitched down his voice a bit to fit the vibe of the track

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 26 May 2010 04:26 (thirteen years ago) link

And that rhyme scheme in the first verse? Damn! Like it's been a while since I've praised someone's rhyme scheme, but it's just such a contrast to B's normal speak-rapping that it's almost a shock.

rennavate, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 04:29 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, we're gonna be staying on the moon
but there's still gonna be racists

^pondering this

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 26 May 2010 04:29 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i would love to see an interview with him where he talks about why he does what he does, cuz he can obv rap 'normally' if he wants to and he doesn't lose any of what makes him compelling. & yet he rarely does it. even on this track he acts like if the first verses didn't even happen. what a guy.

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 26 May 2010 04:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Definitely. And like, most of what he's saying on the track has been said before a million times, but it doesn't sound preachy or pedantic... it's just fuckin' B, pondering this shit, to use your word, J0rdan. Like, he completely sells it.

rennavate, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 04:33 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm asking older people, "How you make it to your status"?
They laughin', cause they see reflection while I'm asking questions

And the best gift is to listen, learn math to count your blessings

rennavate, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 04:38 (thirteen years ago) link

lil b youtube descriptions could be t-shirt koans i.e.

VERY VULGAR/LEGENDARY

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 26 May 2010 04:47 (thirteen years ago) link

ALL I NO I[S] THAT I WAS TRUE..

rennavate, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 04:55 (thirteen years ago) link

this song = http://www.soulstrut.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/badassbuddy_com-slowburner.gif

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 26 May 2010 04:59 (thirteen years ago) link

it's also like 80% truth bombs, 20% captain lorax

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 26 May 2010 05:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Captain Lorax?

rennavate, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 05:02 (thirteen years ago) link


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