what mixtape was this off last year?? i thought i had it but i cant find it
― its like why GROCERY BAG and not saddam? (deej), Sunday, 23 May 2010 02:13 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFZbCRsxRtE
jacka - u playin
fire
― its like why GROCERY BAG and not saddam? (deej), Sunday, 23 May 2010 02:23 (thirteen years ago) link
omg the bass in that boosie track!!!!
― ianmaxwell, Sunday, 23 May 2010 12:15 (thirteen years ago) link
funnest ever
i realized i know the boosie from a south rap comp that i copped at the beginning of the yr, only had one boosie track on it
― its like why GROCERY BAG and not saddam? (deej), Sunday, 23 May 2010 16:42 (thirteen years ago) link
RIP Lil' Romeo, PG USC Trojans
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/news/story?id=5209964
― i saw a necromancer at the buffalo wild wings in west st. paul (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 24 May 2010 19:49 (thirteen years ago) link
boosie >>>> gucci
― i saw a necromancer at the buffalo wild wings in west st. paul (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 24 May 2010 19:54 (thirteen years ago) link
seconded
― forksclovetofu, Monday, 24 May 2010 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link
i can't deal with boosie's voice
― The Reverend, Monday, 24 May 2010 20:00 (thirteen years ago) link
that's the whole selling point!
― mr. milquetoast (J0rdan S.), Monday, 24 May 2010 20:01 (thirteen years ago) link
― i saw a necromancer at the buffalo wild wings in west st. paul (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, May 24, 2010 2:54 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark
i am willing to bet that this falls directly along the pac/biggie fault line
― mr. milquetoast (J0rdan S.), Monday, 24 May 2010 20:02 (thirteen years ago) link
who's pac and who's biggie in that equation?
― i saw a necromancer at the buffalo wild wings in west st. paul (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 24 May 2010 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link
i f/w boosie > gucci but boosie >>>>>>>> gucci is silly
― django weingart (samosa gibreel), Monday, 24 May 2010 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link
i should say that the number of ">"'s i put in that was totally arbitrary and is not a scientific measurement
― i saw a necromancer at the buffalo wild wings in west st. paul (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 24 May 2010 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link
boosie is pac & gucci is biggie -- stylistically i think they break in the same sort of manner
― mr. milquetoast (J0rdan S.), Monday, 24 May 2010 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link
i've made this comparison before though
― mr. milquetoast (J0rdan S.), Monday, 24 May 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link
i always think of it as like, if someone said "sooooooooo much better" xp
― django weingart (samosa gibreel), Monday, 24 May 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link
ah yeah i guess i didn't put much though into it.
weird i like biggie was more than pac, but boosie way better than gucci
― i saw a necromancer at the buffalo wild wings in west st. paul (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 24 May 2010 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link
ya i would maybe flip that analogy, based on delivery at least cause biggie & boosie are so much more emphatic. you probably have some good reasoning though, and i haven't listened to much tupac.
also boosie, biggie; biggie, boosie
― django weingart (samosa gibreel), Monday, 24 May 2010 20:36 (thirteen years ago) link
― i saw a necromancer at the buffalo wild wings in west st. paul (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, Suggest Ban PermalinkMay 24, 2010 1:32 PM Bookmark
quite the opposite here
― The Reverend, Monday, 24 May 2010 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link
who the hell was more emphatic than pac?
outside of maybe DMC, no one
― upper mississippi sh@kedown, Monday, 24 May 2010 20:44 (thirteen years ago) link
this is me btw
― m@tt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 24 May 2010 20:44 (thirteen years ago) link
i'll grant u dmc
― The Reverend, Monday, 24 May 2010 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link
obv this is a bit reductive but
pac & boosie (esp boosie of the past 2 years or so) rap from the heart in a real emotional manner about some real emotional shit, might make time for raps about flossing but everything really circles back to the guttural pain in my life type rap
gucci & biggie (excepting some obvious biggie tracks) rap about kingpin shit in a way that's flashy and dazzles you with wordplay/internal rhyming/imagery etc
― mr. milquetoast (J0rdan S.), Monday, 24 May 2010 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link
that is a bit reductive
― The Reverend, Monday, 24 May 2010 20:46 (thirteen years ago) link
i know
― mr. milquetoast (J0rdan S.), Monday, 24 May 2010 20:47 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, i don't know, maybe emphatic isn't it. more like i feel they've got more dynamic, rounder deliveries. hard to explain, and also hard to prove to a tupac fan :P
― django weingart (samosa gibreel), Monday, 24 May 2010 20:49 (thirteen years ago) link
rounder?
― upper mississippi sh@key mo (The Reverend), Monday, 24 May 2010 20:55 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm going to go listen to some tupac to make sure i'm not just making this up, but like, gucci's general enunciation and delivery is pretty uniform, whereas boosie stretches words out and raps louder, more comfortable or adventurous with his vocal chords. like half the pleasure is just hearing his voice. i feel similarly about biggie.
jordan's analogy is more concrete and not maybe just my imagination, still feel like there's something here though.
― django weingart (samosa gibreel), Monday, 24 May 2010 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link
my flows are pleasantly plump...KELLY OSBOURNE
― m@tt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 24 May 2010 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link
pac does all that too tho. and i would definitely think of biggie's delivery as "more uniform" (tho obviously less so that gucci, who kind of makes a point of it) than pac's
― upper mississippi sh@key mo (The Reverend), Monday, 24 May 2010 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link
jordan's analogy makes way more sense
― upper mississippi sh@key mo (The Reverend), Monday, 24 May 2010 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link
on a side note, wiz khalifa was born in north dakota.
― upper mississippi sh@key mo (The Reverend), Monday, 24 May 2010 21:11 (thirteen years ago) link
ok listening to tupac now and i definitely stand by what i said. it's got more to do with what type of rapper they are than some overreaching similarity dividing them from the rest of rap, and yeah gucci is definitely the worst of the lot in that regard (although i prefer him to pac)
― django weingart (samosa gibreel), Monday, 24 May 2010 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link
― upper mississippi sh@key mo (The Reverend), Monday, May 24, 2010 9:11 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
woah 4 realz?? that's crazy
― m@tt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 24 May 2010 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link
xp i can't even parse that
― upper mississippi sh@key mo (The Reverend), Monday, 24 May 2010 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link
whatever, i think if you feel that
pac does all that too tho. and i would definitely think of biggie's delivery as "more uniform"
that's the opposite of how i feel and what i'm trying to express and it's just a matter of *perception* or whatever
― django weingart (samosa gibreel), Monday, 24 May 2010 21:37 (thirteen years ago) link
no really, i don't understand what your previous post was trying to say
― upper mississippi sh@key mo (The Reverend), Monday, 24 May 2010 21:38 (thirteen years ago) link
oh, just that i feel like these are broader categories i could fit a bunch of (maybe all) rappers in (those who have more straightforward delivery/vocalization and those who dont) rather than something unique to boosie & biggie/gucci & pac. and also that while i agree with you that gucci has the most uniform and least danymic delivery, i like him better than tupac.
― django weingart (samosa gibreel), Monday, 24 May 2010 21:42 (thirteen years ago) link
ah okay, thx for clarification :)
― upper mississippi sh@key mo (The Reverend), Monday, 24 May 2010 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link
np
― django weingart (samosa gibreel), Monday, 24 May 2010 22:06 (thirteen years ago) link
so Rick Ross has been doing some interesting shit that I feel like is really similar to what (PARTLY) propelled Jay-Z to his current status as indie fandom's favorite stadium rapper by bringing in fashion/style/cultural influences from the vanguard of culture BUT he's actually rapping BETTER now than ever, rather than worse than ever, and also he's doing within a hip-hop framework rather than pop...like when Jay reached into the drake/kid cudi "hit songs by rappers that aren't rap songs" formula on BP3
kinda interesting, also curious that it doesn't seem to be making much noise (granted it's only been a couple songs and he had the misfortune of naming his first foray into this new style after a gaudy, way over the top Robb Report watch brand Audemars Piguet rather than the ultra-hip designers he's been name-checking lately)
also his new outfits are totally lol
all black mink puffy fur vest > all black anything
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Monday, 24 May 2010 22:10 (thirteen years ago) link
or maybe none of that is true i dont know
i guess "on the next one" is hip-hop more than pop and is arguably his most "avant" single/video from that group
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Monday, 24 May 2010 22:15 (thirteen years ago) link
haha saw that picture, figured he was going for an isaac hayes thing
― m@tt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 24 May 2010 22:19 (thirteen years ago) link
vado ft. young chris 0_o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp-W4IsQn5E
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 00:54 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah j0rdan & i have discussed that pac=boosie biggie=gucci theory before, it makes sense in a reductive way -- i think pac>biggie but gucci>boosie tho
― its like why GROCERY BAG and not saddam? (deej), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 00:54 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i think the analogy makes sense but i definitely don't think there's any correlation between people who like Boosie more also liking Pac more etc. (for me it's Boosie/Biggie).
― every night i tell myself i am the custos, i am the wind. (some dude), Tuesday, 25 May 2010 01:02 (thirteen years ago) link
rolling tenuous analogies thread
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 01:21 (thirteen years ago) link
and anyway lil b is the new pac just ask these guys
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, 25 May 2010 01:25 (thirteen years ago) link