YOU LOVE IT: sharon jones & the dap kings - "naturally"

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I just want to say that I replayed her few-years-old "How Long Do I Have To Wait For You?" 45 a few days ago, and was surprised to find that I still like it enough to keep it. But right, she's dime-a-dozen compared to most of the current music by beloved singers her audience has never heard of that I hear on Southern Soul radio shows all the time; there's a good chance that music's fans -- who seem to, mainly, be black people in their 40s or older -- would find her mediocre. In the indie/adult-alternative realm, she still strikes me as a novelty act. More power to her, I guess; it's cool that she found an audience.

(Haven't read that piece linked to yet, fwiw.)

xhuxk, Friday, 21 May 2010 16:52 (thirteen years ago) link

the beach music scene of SC (which also grew out of the 60s soul tradition) has been fueled by a largely white audience iirc

Police Cool. (crüt), Friday, 21 May 2010 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link

xp (And I've still yet to hear any other songs by her as good as that one. Though I admittedly haven't checked out everything she's done.)

xhuxk, Friday, 21 May 2010 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link

I read one page of that article before becoming too disgusted to finish.

Sharon Jones OTM, basically.

Have a slice of wine! (HI DERE), Friday, 21 May 2010 17:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Tangari agrees, but he thinks it's fair to ask if the Dap-Kings would be as popular if Jones were white.

"That's really hard to say, but I kind of don't think so," he says. "She'd just be coming from a different place, and it's also unlikely they'd have the same sound they do, which is part of what helps them."

questions like this are kinda bullshit IMO...like music "quality" is this scientific thing, you put a sharon jones MP3 in a petri dish and use and eye dropper to put some chemical on it and it turns blue if the music is "good"

i mean, sure, yeah race, class, clothes, personality, a whole shitload of things make a difference in how you see a performer

would bowie have been the same if he dropped the exact same ziggy stardust album but looked like rupert holmes?

http://www.comicgenius.com/DiscoFever/disco_profiles/rupert_holmes/images/rupert_holmes.jpg

Oh yeah -- Also heard her version of "This Land Is Your Land" again this week, by accident -- it was played over the opening credits of Up In The Air, which I finally rented through Netflix. Her song struck me as worse than the movie, which I didn't like all that much.

xhuxk, Friday, 21 May 2010 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link

There are African-Americans still interested in soul though--but for the most part they're not interested in Sharon Jones because she's not marketed to them (and / or they may not like her throwback approach). When I saw Southern soul circuit regulars Lattimore and Marvin Sease and others on a big bill a year and a half ago at the Showplace Arena in Maryland outside Washington DC the nearly 3,000 people crowd consisted almost entirely of age 40 and up African-Americans. White guy me counted 5 other white people there. When I saw Sharon Jones at the 930 Club, the 1,000 person crowd was nearly all 20-something white folks. The Southern soul music labels are not reaching out to those Sharon Jones fans and those fans (including the likes of David Byrne, and Carrie Brownstein) are not seeking out Ecko and Malaco and other Southern soul label releases.

curmudgeon, Friday, 21 May 2010 18:26 (thirteen years ago) link

failure of marketing imo

dud rock (crüt), Friday, 21 May 2010 18:30 (thirteen years ago) link

sharon jones has a story angle -- the rikers island cop turned soul diva thing -- that npr-types love. that definitely accounts for some of their higher profile, right? but i'm curious -- you put sharon in front of a crowd like you describe in Maryland ... and they wouldn't go over well? they sort of strike me as a band that would go over well *anywhere*.

tylerw, Friday, 21 May 2010 18:31 (thirteen years ago) link

these kind of discussions always strike me as a way of avoiding having to handle the more difficult task of evaluating an artists work honestly & critically ...

its like why GROCERY BAG and not saddam? (deej), Sunday, 23 May 2010 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link

It would be very sad if this kind of thing fuels a backlash against her. But it's not unlikely.

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Friday, 28 May 2010 13:57 (thirteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

I hope this means they tour again. Best live show I've ever seen.

― The Reverend, Thursday, July 26, 2007 7:13 PM Bookmark

So should I splurge for NYE tickets since we have nothing else to do other than a couple of parties where we won't know anyone?

I can take a youtube that's seldom seen, flip it, now it's a meme (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Fuck it, I did it.

Man, motherfuck a "processing fee" though. The tickets wound up about 20% more expensive than advertised. I'm writing to Obama about this.

I can take a youtube that's seldom seen, flip it, now it's a meme (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link

worth every penny

I can take a youtube that's seldom seen, flip it, now it's a meme (Hurting 2), Saturday, 1 January 2011 06:51 (thirteen years ago) link

"daerest obama, this sharon jones show was worth every penny!!! you should check her out when she plays dc!!!!"

not everything is a campfire (ian), Saturday, 1 January 2011 06:58 (thirteen years ago) link

rock the fuck out hurting; she's a a great show
i'm friends with one of the sweet divines; how'd ya like their fauxtown stylings?

predeep natsvitika (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 1 January 2011 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Um, they weren't on the bill. I think you're thinking of the Marva Whitney show at the Bell House.

But Allen Toussaint was amazing.

I can take a youtube that's seldom seen, flip it, now it's a meme (Hurting 2), Saturday, 1 January 2011 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link

The Dap-Kings are such a great, great band. They did "Get Out My Life Woman" with him and it really sounded like his original recording.

I can take a youtube that's seldom seen, flip it, now it's a meme (Hurting 2), Saturday, 1 January 2011 16:03 (thirteen years ago) link

o fuck right, wrong show. tous is always an amazing time though; i think i've been at something like fourteen live perfs with him and he's always a mindboggler.

predeep natsvitika (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 1 January 2011 16:06 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Just realized that my wedding photographer/shortlived former bassist in my band did the cover photo for I Learned the Hard Way. [ /brag ]

bert yansh (Hurting 2), Thursday, 16 August 2012 23:47 (eleven years ago) link

Blick?

"Batshit crazy," the foam clog tycoon said. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 17 August 2012 04:04 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

Cool song, cooler video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrOYkHjdpdM

a fifth of misty beethoven (cryptosicko), Friday, 29 November 2013 23:52 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

RIP

the late great, Saturday, 19 November 2016 01:38 (seven years ago) link

:(

art baengels (monotony), Saturday, 19 November 2016 01:53 (seven years ago) link

Dammmmmnnnnnnnn.....,.,

Devastatin' Dan the Suggest Ban Man (Dan Peterson), Saturday, 19 November 2016 01:58 (seven years ago) link

RIP

Sharon Jones OTM

Davey D, Saturday, 19 November 2016 02:23 (seven years ago) link

Wtf

Οὖτις, Saturday, 19 November 2016 03:08 (seven years ago) link

RIP

Dominique, Saturday, 19 November 2016 03:46 (seven years ago) link

oh no :(

a but (brimstead), Saturday, 19 November 2016 03:50 (seven years ago) link

RIP QUEEN

Chantilly Bass, Saturday, 19 November 2016 04:18 (seven years ago) link

she was a supernova. RIP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99WYDZP5gtQ

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Saturday, 19 November 2016 07:08 (seven years ago) link

oh, 2016

sleeve, Saturday, 19 November 2016 07:48 (seven years ago) link

This sucks. RIP.

hardcore dilettante, Saturday, 19 November 2016 20:00 (seven years ago) link

Fuck 2016

No longer active (Moka), Saturday, 19 November 2016 20:20 (seven years ago) link

She was a force, and the way that she handled her illness was brave and inspiring. RIP.

rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Saturday, 19 November 2016 20:39 (seven years ago) link

Tribute on WKCR right now

Y Kant Jamie Reid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 20 November 2016 14:41 (seven years ago) link

RIP

Ross, Monday, 21 November 2016 15:36 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

just because.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmLl21gZjfM

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 20:38 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

Friend who did a lot of her photography is selling these amazing prints rn for $65 each in a giving tuesday flash sale

https://www.alltogetherprints.com/category/sharon-giving-tuesday?fbclid=IwAR1p8Ep6_d3MTGjpe39Qe5ZczKKH3QxYSlLF4Grmnvbv5vkDp9GPbeVazl0

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 16:58 (three years ago) link

didn't know you knew Jacob!

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 16:59 (three years ago) link


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