Against Me! - New Wave

Yeah.

what is he even going to play?

I'm really not into Against Me! suddenly playing a keyboard on all their tracks.

ha right

The more I listen to this the more I like it... and I liked it right off the bat.

How is their last album compared to this? All I remember is that one single that sounded like Franz Ferdinand, which I quite liked.

The one issue I'm having with this album is that the lyrics are so bleak. Like I've been turning on Gaslight Anthem a bunch because it sounds amazing and has a really warm feeling and the lyrics are vague enough to tune out when my attention is elsewhere. This Against Me! album tho is brutal. "Narrow visions of autonomy / You want me to surrender my identity," turning into this old man looking back on his more rebellious days when he was still full of life. Or "because of the shame I associate with vulnerability / i am numbing myself completely," which turns in the end into a death (the mother burying her kid), or the super depressing "We're Breaking Up" track where he's looking around his broken relationship and wondering what to do with their shared bands and shared friends. So generally I'd rather listen to something not so completely depressing - it's not half as good as something like Blue, but it's about as relentless.

Well to me it's a lot about how this former teenage anarchist is dealing with being 30 (or nearly 30), realizing he can't be that kid anymore. But yeah, a lot of it's bleak shit. Is that so bad, though?

No, I mean, it can be great. I think the new album is really powerful. But I don't always want to be in that headspace, and it transmits affect really effectively.

Terrific album.

yes

Why do me and J0rdan like the same rock albums all the time? Is there some reason that Against Me! and Titus Andronicus appeal to AUTOGOONS in particular?

J0rdan, do you like Torche too?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgvqEJstNrw

Are we talking about White Crosses or New Wave? Not that it really matters. They're both excellent.

The new one doesn't have anything as epic as Thrash Unreal, but it's probably more consistent overall. The only problem with New Wave for me was side 2 was not nearly as good.

I had NO idea the Against Wave cult reviles White Crosses (check out the Amazon reviews). How is it so bloody different -- except they've gotten better at what they do?

Against Me's fans turn on them with every album iirc

ha, i was gonna say, i thought they turned on them after "new wave"

yeah whiney idk why we both dig the same rock albums -- add my chem & 21st cent breakdown to the list

Titus Andronicus & Torche are heavier than shit like Broken Social Scene w/o being as heavy as something like, I don't know, Mastodon (to pick an example of popular metal stuff)

I'm gonna make a thread about it so we don't clog up this one

that torche is really sweet, for some reason i always thought they were some baroness type metal

whiney there's already a thread about this sort of rock album -- mordy started it

maybe this isn't exactly what you were thinking tho

Post-Boss American Shades of Working Class Rock Music Thread

focuses more on gaslight anthem i guess, no idea if you like them

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=77&threadid=81488#unread

Oddly enough, or maybe not, but the last two Against Me! albums are my favourite of theirs. This probably says alot about my tastes.

ohhh man, as a huge early AM! fan I am listening to this right now. I didn't care for their last couple but the first song on this gave me goosebumps.

'white crosses' is such an anthem, I can't get past it every time I put the album on

love the way he says "home-to-you" and "av-uh-nue"

really wanna go to an AM! show and jam to this

Well to me it's a lot about how this former teenage anarchist is dealing with being 30 (or nearly 30), realizing he can't be that kid anymore. But yeah, a lot of it's bleak shit. Is that so bad, though?

― rennavate, Friday, May 21, 2010 3:17 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark

cursory feeling is not only can he not be that kid anymroe, but he realizes how... windmill-tilting it all was? "politics were too convenient" - he's wiser, has perspective from which to evaluate and condemn his past actions, but is still waiting for some new ideology to replace it - "looking for context and perspective, looking for some kind of distraction" - and his old impulses keep returning to fill the void...

Mordy OTM about how bleak lyrically this album is, probably because I feel like I am at a similar place in life these guys are

"with my name tattoo'd into your skin" and later, the reverse-shot: "with your name tattoo'd into my skin"

despite the sentiments proffered, love how vulnerable the song makes tom seem.

thing is, I don't think he's quite closed off that chapter of that life yet. he doesn't have as much distance from that period as he would like himself or you to believe. "I've got no judgment for you/come on an ache with me." he's exhausted his veins, but he's still open - if someone were to come along and revitalize his prior leanings, I don't doubt he'd join in.

This record is an absolute monster. Now my favorite is Spanish Moss.

HIGH PRESSURE LOW

There's just no future left for us to dream of
Living in an era of instability
So caught up in the culture of their rivals
Fear breeds in honest men
It's a high pressure low
It's a high pressure low

like, this is the fucking shit here

as a chorus

My favorite part of that song:

Would anyone forgive Robert McNamara?
In retrospect he had to admit;
There was mistake in going to war without first asking all the questions.
Yes, Robert Strange McNamara,

Yes, Robert Strange McNamara

want to get up and dance & sing along to this even though I'm at work

It's probably my favorite record of the year so far. Right now my favorite is Spanish Moss. Hard to believe this record doesn't have its own thread, but it's too late now.

To me, this band is so much better now than they were starting out.

What god doesn't give to you, you've gotta go get for yourself

still one of the best

Yessir.

no fuckin joke

Were supposed to be doing a UK tour next month until it was cancelled with no explanation. Hope all is well with them.

Best record of 2010. It's kind of lame that it doesn't have its own thread.

I just saw the video for "Teenage Anarchist" thought it was excellent. Lyrically better than anything in its class that I've heard.

"You're getting messed up with the wrong guys/You're getting messed up on the wrong drugs/Sometimes your body takes you places/That you didn't really plan on goin" has always struck me as a very Craig Finn-y line. The whole song in its way has that classic rock feel to it, but that line sounds like it coulda come right off Separation Sunday.

also the high note on "they don't know nothin about redemption" always makes me lose my shit

hoos did you ever get into early AM!

I like Eternal Cowboy a lot but Axl Rose still hasn't really grabbed me yet

also i think i want to send the lyrics to "piss and vinegar" to everyone on the occupydc discussion list

man hoos I feel like I don't know you anymore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bePBQA30vQ

HOOS are you coming around to reinventing axl rose??

Oh yeah dude, around late winter last year it became my favorite

http://i.imgur.com/SKHsa1z.jpg

badass

this is temporarily available for free download at their website right now http://www.againstme.net/

both songs are great

excited!!

also i was sort of worried about the status of the proper record bc they lost both their bassist and drummer recently but apparently they've finished recording it

yeah i'm kinda skeptical that this is coming out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7WanzlOvGg

saw them at riot fest last weekend, it got really emotional. if the rest of transgender dysphoria blues is as good as the new songs they played it'll be a really important record to me. in like a deeply personal way

always extremely jealous when someone gets a chance to see them live

anticipating the hell out of the new record

Same here. I played White Crosses a few weeks ago and was shocked anew by "Suffocation."

found a decent live video of "transgender dysphoria blues"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq_va3wNfFo

the lyrics are incredible

you want them to notice the ragged ends of your summer dress
you want them to see you like they see every other girl
they just see a faggot
they hold their breath not to catch the sick

rough surf on the coast, i wish i could've spent the whole day alone with you