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regarding APP i'd go with a greatest hits, but "i robot" and "eye in the sky" are pretty sweet albums... my favorite song of theirs is "TIME" though.

akaky akakievich, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 16:48 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/14324-before-today/

9.0

ksh, Monday, 7 June 2010 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link

2004 has arrived -- we are all down w/ hauntology now

ksh, Monday, 7 June 2010 15:35 (thirteen years ago) link

for some reason i thought that ariel pink was related to the rapper who calls himself black nasty, whose music i don't like at all. and for that -- i suppose irrational -- reason, i've stayed away from ariel pink's music. now i wonder if i had ariel pink confused with someone else.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 7 June 2010 15:41 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.losanjealous.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/ariel_06.jpg

ksh, Monday, 7 June 2010 15:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Any Ariel Pink fans wanna weigh in and say whether this is really his best record or not? I've only heard sections of one of his earlier records but it didn't grab me enough to make me listen to the whole thing.

ksh, Monday, 7 June 2010 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link

im going to see him at the scala next week
quite excited actually
dont know every single song of his but i did love worn copy and the doldrums
hope hes better than some of the reviews on ilx suggest.

truffle-flavoured french fry (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 7 June 2010 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link

It's up there with the best of his work, for sure. May be my favorite, it's certainly the one I've been listening to the most lately.
Worn Copy may be my sentimental fave.

Trip Maker, Monday, 7 June 2010 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link

credit might be my most favourite song of his.

truffle-flavoured french fry (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 7 June 2010 15:48 (thirteen years ago) link

for some reason i thought that ariel pink was related to the rapper who calls himself black nasty, whose music i don't like at all. and for that -- i suppose irrational -- reason, i've stayed away from ariel pink's music. now i wonder if i had ariel pink confused with someone else.

― Daniel, Esq., Monday, June 7, 2010 11:41 AM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

you are probably thinking of black nasty's sister, pink nasty.

mizzell, Monday, 7 June 2010 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, that jogs my memory. thanks.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 7 June 2010 15:55 (thirteen years ago) link

ariel pink appears on Mayonnaise Pen, a track on Black Nasty's Shark Tank album.

Palpatean Mists (Lowell N. Behold'n), Monday, 7 June 2010 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Its great but the disparity between the p4k ratings for (to pick one of my faves) Worn Copy and the new one is pretty crazy.

Jamie_ATP, Monday, 7 June 2010 16:27 (thirteen years ago) link

again, based on the (possibly misleading) soundscan sample, the vocal harmonies on the chorus of bright lit blue skies is precisely the kind of big, sweeping epic chorus i remember fondly from the 80s.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 7 June 2010 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link

bright lit blue skies is magnificent.

truffle-flavoured french fry (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 7 June 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Its great but the disparity between the p4k ratings for (to pick one of my faves) Worn Copy and the new one is pretty crazy.

Which is to say the new one should have a lower rating, amirite?

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 7 June 2010 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

i'll be fuckin livid if there's a huge disparity between Cokemachineglow's review of his first record and the new one

ksh, Monday, 7 June 2010 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd give Worn Copy an 8.5ish. New one a 7.9ish.

Jamie_ATP, Monday, 7 June 2010 17:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Worn Copy's more of a 8.52 imo

ksh, Monday, 7 June 2010 17:56 (thirteen years ago) link

House Arrest and the Doldrums are still where it's at.

Fetchboy, Monday, 7 June 2010 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Bright Lit Blue Skies is a cover of a song by the Rockin Ramrods circa 1966.

Trip Maker, Monday, 7 June 2010 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link

<3 mark richardson

teflon donk (samosa gibreel), Monday, 7 June 2010 18:28 (thirteen years ago) link

This is definitely not his best album. But it is good. The tracks are shorter, more confined and in a way this is not necessarily a good thing. I do like Butthouse Blondies a lot though.

village idiot (dog latin), Monday, 7 June 2010 23:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Worn Copy is my fave. I should listen to his other stuff more, but it's all really hotchpotch. Even Worn Copy which I adore I rarely make all the way through. It becomes kind of exhausting.

village idiot (dog latin), Monday, 7 June 2010 23:35 (thirteen years ago) link

couldn't disagree more, worn copy, doldrums, house arrest, and lover boy = all killer no filler

hobbes, Monday, 7 June 2010 23:54 (thirteen years ago) link

well ok 90% killer maybe 10% filler

hobbes, Monday, 7 June 2010 23:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Reposting Zeno's YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJLYq0tHAPk

skip, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 00:00 (thirteen years ago) link

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/12909-grandes-exitos/ - 7.0
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/10966-scared-famous/ - 6.1
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/6555-house-arrest/ - 6.2
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/6554-worn-copy/ - 5.9
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/6553-the-doldrums/ - 5.0

"There's no way this Hollywood hillbilly called Ariel Pink knows who Stephen Merritt is"

― gorilla vs burrr (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, June 7, 2010 3:37 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I was hoping for a repudiation, or at least a reassessment, of this long history of trashing Ariel Pink albums. Instead, we get a list of supposed improvements in performance/production and a glib "It turns out that these details make a big difference". What a copout.

skip, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 00:05 (thirteen years ago) link

idg all the yapping this morning about the disparity between before todays score and previous albums, i mean he addresses it in the review (for basically its entirety), and even admits that there's been a reevaluation of his oeuvre.

i think the review and score are a bit overblown, for some reason this album just doesn't feel huge to me, and i feel like great pop albums should be huge. good songs, though, and i wouldn't want to discourage anyone from getting super excited about it. glad that probably thousands more people will hear it now, too.

teflon donk (samosa gibreel), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 00:10 (thirteen years ago) link

xp skip - the review is pretty obviously intended for people who have never heard (of) ariel pink before, though. and i think the little differences adding up to something greater than the sum of their parts is true, if not *revelatory*. a talented nut who got his shit together, i don't know, music isn't always that much more complicated than just that.

teflon donk (samosa gibreel), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 00:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Just heard "Round and Round." Damn -- amazing.

ksh, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 00:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Dear Pitchfork: you ain't talking your ass out of this.(Just watched Pulp Fiction again)

B'wana Beast, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 01:07 (thirteen years ago) link

i dunno its like fair enough, pink has always been awesome but it really wouldn't have made sense for pitchfork to be into him back in like 2005 so like

plax (ico), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 01:18 (thirteen years ago) link

wait, why not?

underwater, please (bear, bear, bear), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 02:15 (thirteen years ago) link

9. POINT. 0.

MUST. DOWNLOAD. DISC. IMMEDIATELY.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 8 June 2010 02:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Daniel has never been the same since Lala's demise

ksh, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 02:21 (thirteen years ago) link

i welcome it

ksh, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 02:21 (thirteen years ago) link

it's true it's true. i am heartbroken.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 8 June 2010 02:21 (thirteen years ago) link

actually i love bright lit blue skies song so much, i am downloading the disc tonight.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 8 June 2010 02:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Besides an admittedly nice hook, I'm not sure what is so incredible about "Round and Round." What about it are fans attracted to? (As easy as that question is to be read with an angry, rhetorical tone, it is actually an innocently curious question. I like hearing about what makes music work for people)

Evan, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 02:30 (thirteen years ago) link

It gives me hope

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 02:44 (thirteen years ago) link

it make me happy. seriously.

are there a bunch of 70s pop/rock songs sampled in that track? it feels like it.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 8 June 2010 02:50 (thirteen years ago) link

the value you mortals place on your happiness astounds me!

ksh, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 02:51 (thirteen years ago) link

i think part of what is appealing about Ariel Pink has something to do with this DFW-esque idea of burrowing into self-awareness and irony until you come back around to sincerity. i guess he's always appropriated soft rock and new wave of the 70's and 80's, but up until now it was filtered through a layer of lo-fi noise and weird song structure that allowed it to be received with a sense of ironic distance. but now that it is actually well-produced and he has a band he comes across more as actually just really loving this particular sound and wanting it to be as effective as possible. it's perhaps only updated in the sense of having the perspective of history and a wider scope of influence, e.g. ethiopiques, etc. but i think a lot of people project a certain innocence and naivety and therefore maybe freedom onto unselfconscious soft rock pop of the past, so its appealing to see the trajectory of a guy working through the lo-fi bedroom sound to the point where he can afford to produce an actual soft rock album without the indie-ness (and maybe the implied self-wareness/self-deprecation) of lo-fi production.

speaking of a move from lo-fi production to a cleaner sound, there are certain sections of songs that remind me of Pavement, which might also have to do with the sound of his falsetto.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 8 June 2010 03:05 (thirteen years ago) link

not that lo-fi production isn't appealing it its own right. and there is obviously a component of Ariel Pink's sound that is just straight up weird and fractured unlike most soft rock of the 80's.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 8 June 2010 03:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Ariels, in the sky
When you lose small mind
You free your life

Life is a waterfall
We drink from the river
Then we turn around and put up our walls

ksh, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 03:13 (thirteen years ago) link

i have yet to identify the ethiopiques similarities, but maybe because i'm so pleasently surprised by all the 70s/80s pop sounds i'm hearing baked into these songs.

two of these tracks are already among my favorits pop songs of the year. and something on here i haven't focused on yet sounded like the alan parsons project?

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 8 June 2010 03:19 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost LOOOOL i've been trying to do a display name out of that all day

ლ support our troops ლ (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 8 June 2010 03:25 (thirteen years ago) link

nabisco pointed out on another thread that "reminiscences" is a cover of an ethiopian song off a compilation that he helped compile.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 8 June 2010 03:27 (thirteen years ago) link


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