George Harrison - "All Things Must Pass"

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wah wah is good. the whole record is good except for the jam stuff.

kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 28 October 2006 13:16 (seventeen years ago) link

After 20 years of listening to this record, sometimes obsessively, I stil maintain it's the best solo album by a Beatle. And if he never bothered with the third jam LP, I bet no one would argue.

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Saturday, 28 October 2006 13:59 (seventeen years ago) link

No! Thou shalt not diss Wah Wah! It's not often that a song seems to give the impression of crying so well. In fact, I think it'd have to be Neil Young's guitar on a live version of "Cortez The Killer" to even match that as far as crying in music goes.

An evening of fun in the metropolis of your dream (Bimble...), Saturday, 28 October 2006 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link

And the thing is I always pictured him singing that song to Lennon for some reason.

An evening of fun in the metropolis of your dream (Bimble...), Saturday, 28 October 2006 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Harrison I mean of course, not Neil.

An evening of fun in the metropolis of your dream (Bimble...), Saturday, 28 October 2006 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't have the CD...but the first three records of this are super amazing. and the fourth record might be the biggest piece of shit i own! worst. jams. ever.*


*with the excecption of that deleted scene jam they put on the new DVD of the last waltz. yucky.

M@tt He1geson: Real Name, No Gimmicks (Matt Helgeson), Saturday, 28 October 2006 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link

There was a 4LP version? I believe the original was 3 LPs, two of songs and one of jams.

Django Blowhardt (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 28 October 2006 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

He's singing Wah Wah at Paul I believe.

great hidden lyric in "Awaiting On You All " which is not included in the liner notes :

"The pope owns 51 percent of General Motors. The stock exchange is the only thing he's qualified to quote us. "

Brad Laner (Brad Laner), Saturday, 28 October 2006 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link

There was a 4LP version? I believe the original was 3 LPs, two of songs and one of jams.

yo..i might be confused! i'll double check when i get home.

M@tt He1geson: Real Name, No Gimmicks (Matt Helgeson), Saturday, 28 October 2006 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

He's singing Wah Wah at Paul I believe.

I've never heard this. What is the implication - that Paul should stop crying about something?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 28 October 2006 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

supposedly it was written during the time that george quit the 'let it be/ get back' sessions.
y'know after the weird passive/agressive argument with paul as seen in the l.i.b. film.

Brad Laner (Brad Laner), Saturday, 28 October 2006 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Donald Barthelme drops a reference to "Wah Wah" in one of his short stories. Now that's respect...

opalescent arcs (Da ve Segal), Saturday, 28 October 2006 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I've read the same thing about Wah Wah. I think George is using the guitar pedal as a metaphor for musical scraps that McCartney had given Harrison.

Wah-wah
You've given me a wah-wah
And Im thinking of you
And all the things that we used to do
Wah-wah, wah-wah

Wah-wah
You made me such a big star
Being there at the right time
Cheaper than a dime
Wah-wah, youve given me your wah-wah, wah-wah

Oh, you dont see me crying
Oh, you dont hear me sighing

Wah-wah
I dont need no wah-wah
And I know how sweet life can be
If I keep myself free from the wah-wah
I dont need no wah-wah

Oh, you dont see me crying
Hey baby, you dont hear me sighing
Oh, no no-no no

Wah-wah
Now I dont need no wah-wahs
And I know how sweet life can be
If I keep myself free - of wah-wah
I dont need no wah-wah

darin (darin), Saturday, 28 October 2006 17:51 (seventeen years ago) link

A great album that has gained a lot from the great remaster job.

However, they should have stopped at the double album back then. The third album consists of completely pointless jams that drag the entire album considerably down.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 28 October 2006 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Definitely the best of the post-Beatles solo stuff. Agree with everyone about how great "Wah-wah" is and how bad the jam is.

vartman (novaheat), Sunday, 29 October 2006 04:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I missed my chance to get in at fourth post and say "Sweet Lord Sotosyn, we don't need your 'Wah Wah'"

The Redd 47 Ronin (Ken L), Sunday, 29 October 2006 05:23 (seventeen years ago) link

The best post-Beatles solo albums were "Tug Of War", "Pipes Of Peace" and "Chaos And Creation In The Backyard". It wouldn't even consider it Harrison's best solo album ("Cloud Nine" is better), but "All Things Must Pass" is still great, and better than anything John Lennon ever did as a solo act.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 30 October 2006 10:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Pipes of Peace is about the fortieth best solo Beatle album, i.e., one of the worst. Cloud Nine had weaker material than the four Dark Horse albums that preceded it but I guess people liked it because it had Jeff Lynne and Eric Clapton and Ringo playing on it instead of the alleged hacks (like, you know, Willie Weeks and Billy Preston) who played on the others.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 30 October 2006 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link

who liked Cloud Nine besides Rolling Stone, I wonder? ("Geir" is not an answer.)

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 30 October 2006 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Me!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 30 October 2006 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

ELO fans?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 30 October 2006 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Jeff Lynne's sound makes me a little queasy.

pj (Henry), Monday, 30 October 2006 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Seems to me I've seen the take that Cloud Nine was a significant comeback album (i.e., not just in the sense that he hadn't made an album in five years) a lot over the years. AMG's got:

33 1/3 - 3 stars
s/t '79 album - 4 stars
Somewhere in England - 3 1/2 stars
Gone Troppo - 1 star : (
Cloud Nine - 4 1/2 stars

Well, at least there's some credit for the late '70s/early '80s stuff there.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 30 October 2006 17:26 (seventeen years ago) link

("Geir" is not an answer.)

This should be in the FAQ. I've never disagreed so much with someone who hadn't just pissed his clothes.

Django Blowhardt (Rock Hardy), Monday, 30 October 2006 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link

"The pope owns 51 percent of General Motors. The stock exchange is the only thing he's qualified to quote us. "

!! I have always wondered what this fucking verse is! Easily my favorite song on the album.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 30 October 2006 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Am I the only one who prefers the "Jams" over the rest of the album?

xpost well maybe cause I owned a copy of only album three of this, back whenever, and got a cheapie HMV sale copy of the new remastered CD set more recently.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 30 October 2006 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I like some of the jamz I'll admit it.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 30 October 2006 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link

The jams are nice enough in the background. I wonder how the album's flow/feel would change with them strewn among the songs instead of sequestered at the end.

Django Blowhardt (Rock Hardy), Monday, 30 October 2006 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link

well, it was a "significant comeback album" in that it sold a lot and spawned a No. 1 single. I guess it got decent reviews at the time, but I don't know if that makes it a critical hit, per se.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 30 October 2006 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I don't know how big a critical hit it was either - I'm just saying I've often seen it characterized as an artistic comeback.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 30 October 2006 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Fair enough; you've read more about it than I have, probably.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 30 October 2006 19:38 (seventeen years ago) link

The meme then and now is "Best album since All Things Must Pass." I know it got a good RS review, but what else is new. This and the Wilburys album released in late '88 did a lot to revive Harrison's reptuation; suddenly he had a sense of humor! he can write other kinds of songs besides windy, badly sung Krishna rants!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 30 October 2006 19:41 (seventeen years ago) link

The meme then and now is "Best album since All Things Must Pass."

isn't that more or less the official line on every solo album every beatle has ever released?

fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 30 October 2006 19:45 (seventeen years ago) link

suddenly he had a sense of humor!

Hi dere: http://web.mit.edu/scholvin/www/harrison/gifs/c310_00.jpg

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 30 October 2006 21:07 (seventeen years ago) link

This is the guy whose John Lennon tribute song had silly synthesizer parts and doo wop background vocals.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 30 October 2006 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

KNEE-SLAPPING

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 30 October 2006 22:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Hmmm.. I must have written something wrong here. "Pipes Of Peace" is obviously not among the best of anything at all. I meant "Flowers In The Dirt".

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 30 October 2006 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

who liked Cloud Nine besides Rolling Stone, I wonder?

Lots of people, obviously, judging from the fact that it was his most popular solo album since the first two.

And, yes, ELO fans were among then, and ELO fans usually know good music when they hear it. That is why they are ELO fans.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 30 October 2006 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link

"Good times drinking on me bottle"

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 30 October 2006 22:38 (seventeen years ago) link

"Sun hot - you don't got a backache"

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 30 October 2006 22:39 (seventeen years ago) link

no one ever mentions my favorite George solo tune (well, its a tie between this and "Don't Make Me Wait Too Long"), the finest entry on the well-loved Lethal Weapon 2 soundtrack: http://www.jpgr.co.uk/w2696.html

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 30 October 2006 22:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, I love "Cheer Down." It sounds like a real good Tom Petty song, i.e. too snarky for him to sing himself (even though he gets a cowrite credit)

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 30 October 2006 23:06 (seventeen years ago) link

George Harrison's best ever song after the breakup of The Beatles is of course the fantastic "When We Was Fab".

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 30 October 2006 23:07 (seventeen years ago) link

How much humor in music is actually something that makes people really laugh out loud, anyway? Gone Troppo is an incredibly silly record with wacky lyrics and arrangements, cover design by someone from the Bonzo Dog Band, and a nutty version of a ridiculous 1961 doo wop song.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 30 October 2006 23:57 (seventeen years ago) link

"Wake Up My Love" makes me laugh out loud, alright. The synth player sounds like he's hitting the keyboard with a dead bat.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 30 October 2006 23:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Mike Moran:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Moran

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 00:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I suppose that song has kind of a dopey groove, Alfred, but it is all part of the homespun fun. I like the guitar on it.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 00:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, Alfred, did u realize that song involves a double entendre??? Lol.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 00:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Wonderwall Music >>> All Things Must Pass

opalescent arcs (Da ve Segal), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 02:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Life With the Lions >>>>

Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 02:48 (seventeen years ago) link

according to stevehoffman.tv folks, there is no good CD issue of All Things Must Pass

Care to expound?

austinato (Austin), Saturday, 31 October 2015 01:44 (eight years ago) link

Interesting.

I worked at a used record shop around the time the "remastered and expanded" All Things Must Pass came out in 2000 and we were all very excited to hear it (obviously). So, we put it on and I was the only one that thought it sounded crap. Everyone else was all about it. Kind of ruined the album for me and I still don't own a copy to this day.

austinato (Austin), Saturday, 31 October 2015 03:06 (eight years ago) link

I've heard the same about the reissue and for that reason have always been happy to stick with my old issue of the CD in the two separate jewel cases.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 31 October 2015 03:15 (eight years ago) link

"according to stevehoffman.tv folks, there is no good CD issue of All Things Must Pass"

you can download the master steve hoffman did himself of ATMP which was never officially released, from torrent sites. He sold his single copy of the cd masters to this in some fundraising drive, which is pretty sneaky. never mention this on their boards or your question will be deleted by overzealous moderators.

akm, Saturday, 31 October 2015 22:30 (eight years ago) link

and yeah, second demo there is better, but it's not a beatles take, I don't think. is it?

akm, Saturday, 31 October 2015 22:31 (eight years ago) link

No pretty sure it's solo.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 31 October 2015 23:19 (eight years ago) link

Y'know, it kinda pains me to say this in a way, but I honestly can't remember the last time I felt like listening to this album, even though it's undoubtedly one of Harrison's better solo albums.

Turrican, Sunday, 1 November 2015 01:11 (eight years ago) link

Really hoping the Harrison estate gets it together to release the 1974 Dark Horse/Hoarse tour. Apparently George used to screen footage of it for friends at Friar Park and did plan a film at some point.

But back on topic, I really like the extra track 'I Live for You" on the reissue.

Luna Schlosser, Sunday, 1 November 2015 11:37 (eight years ago) link

If its anything like the footage shown on the documentary thing, no.

Mark G, Sunday, 1 November 2015 12:44 (eight years ago) link

Can't be said enough how fucking awful that documentary was. Three-and-a-half hours long and it literally did not provide a single insight to me about the guy or his music.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 1 November 2015 13:59 (eight years ago) link

to me this is not as rough as legend suggests but maybe i'm just blinded by the whole 'hey wow George Harrison playing live!' thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or1MWWWQ-Uw

i liked the doc but it tried to do a No Direction Home where the story was partly over-familiar and partly (the 2nd half) a bit boring.

piscesx, Sunday, 1 November 2015 14:02 (eight years ago) link

had no idea about this Steve Hoffman business

piscesx, Sunday, 1 November 2015 14:02 (eight years ago) link

Three-and-a-half hours long and it literally did not provide a single insight to me about the guy or his music.

Pretty sure that George would love that review - it'd appeal to his sense of the ridiculous.

Luna Schlosser, Sunday, 1 November 2015 14:20 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

His best. He had a few.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 March 2017 03:30 (seven years ago) link

A+ list Alfred. Only omission in my mind is "Let it Roll"

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 23:54 (seven years ago) link

I would've put "Wah-Wah" on there -- his anti-Paul pissiness was far better better than Lennon's ham-fisted attempts. Otherwise, ace list.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 16 March 2017 02:08 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I still think it sounds like he's singing "mmmmmm, I love dick!" in the second verse of 'I Dig Love'

...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 April 2017 22:26 (seven years ago) link

no I'm singing it

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 April 2017 22:47 (seven years ago) link

Hehehehe!

...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 April 2017 22:48 (seven years ago) link

Lol, for sure

Carlotta's Portrait (Ross), Wednesday, 5 April 2017 23:27 (seven years ago) link

He loves dick in the mornin'
He loves dick in the evenin'

...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Thursday, 6 April 2017 14:14 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

"Beware of Darkness" rules

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 December 2019 04:13 (four years ago) link

beware of ABKCO !!

budo jeru, Sunday, 22 December 2019 05:00 (four years ago) link

george's version of "if not for you" on this album may be my favorite george performance of all

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Sunday, 22 December 2019 05:51 (four years ago) link

beware of darkness! clapton's playing is really good on that

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Sunday, 22 December 2019 05:52 (four years ago) link

xp!

the power of george compelled us to post at the same time

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Sunday, 22 December 2019 05:52 (four years ago) link

ATMP is one of those albums where there's 10-12 contenders for the very best song and there's no real way to be wrong. feels good out here

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Sunday, 22 December 2019 05:54 (four years ago) link

there are

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Sunday, 22 December 2019 05:54 (four years ago) link

the power of george compels you

budo jeru, Sunday, 22 December 2019 06:15 (four years ago) link

so many amazing tracks, not sure what i would pick

budo jeru, Sunday, 22 December 2019 06:16 (four years ago) link

george's version of "if not for you" on this album may be my favorite george performance of all

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Sunday, December 22, 2019

Heavy competition from "Apple Scruffs" though.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 December 2019 12:14 (four years ago) link

like both of those

Don’t Slander Meme (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 22 December 2019 12:35 (four years ago) link

You had “What Is Life” on your best-of rundown, but maybe you are making a distinction between song and performance.

Don’t Slander Meme (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 22 December 2019 12:59 (four years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/1qPmqCt.jpg

del griffith, Sunday, 22 December 2019 23:07 (four years ago) link


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