NME Top 100 British Albums Ever List

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6 out of 100.
tho don't diss a flock of seagulls - the last flight of yuri gargarin is rather good.

frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 21:31 (eighteen years ago) link

hahahaha wow. that list just blew my mind.

sovietpanda (sovietpanda), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 21:32 (eighteen years ago) link

I really shouldn't get worked up about the glaring omissions, it's the NME after all, but fuck, where are Fairport, Shirley Collins, Richard & Linda THompson, Bert Jansch, Robert Wyatt, Gorky's, Soft Machine, Sabbath, Scott Walker etc etc. And since when were Dare or Here Come the Warm Jets forgotten gems? They're acting as if the NME are champing some ultra obscure classics. Harumph.

stew!, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 21:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Since when was "Modern Life Is Rubbish" a forgotten gem?

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 21:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Okay, so it's easy to find fault in these things (Led Zep 4 not as good as the La's, for example), but this forgotten gem thing makes no sense.

Modern Life Is Rubbish, Oddessy & Oracle, Dare, SF Sorrow, Selected Ambient Works vol 2, Kings Of The Wild Frontier = FORGOTTEN GEMS?

everything, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 21:47 (eighteen years ago) link

I will admit that I like or listen to a bunch of these albums over the years. When I think about the best of the best a lot of these aren't the albums that would come to mind. This list would be fine for an individual but for a major music publication it's horrid. I didn't think the NME could sink any lower but I'm constantly wrong.

Regarding the Cure, it's interesting that The Head on the Door is the album picked when over the years it has been Disintegration that most have said is their classic. For me both would be in the Top 100 but I'm geekie about the Cure so.

Since it is so titled to the 90's where the hell is Loveless?

BeeOK (boo radley), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:02 (eighteen years ago) link

this list is best british not british isles

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Is the lack of love for Loveless not down to their Irishness? That said, it was in the Observer's best of British so WTF???!!!

stew!, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link

It's possible that it's because of their Irishness but more likely it's because it's not as universally admired outside of music-obsessive circles like ILM.

I think they really need to sort out this "British vs British Isles vs UK" thing though.

everything, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Bah, everyone knows Madness deserves the Top Spot! MalarkeY!!!

LoneNut, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:15 (eighteen years ago) link

NO LOVELESS NO CREDIBILITY

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:17 (eighteen years ago) link

harvell OTM

gear (gear), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:18 (eighteen years ago) link

que?

fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:19 (eighteen years ago) link

By decade:

1960's - 9
1970's - 20
1980's - 17
1990's - 31
2000's - 15

BeeOK (boo radley), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:20 (eighteen years ago) link

this list is best british not british isles

I forgot that fact but I'm American so what the hell do I know anyways. ;-)

BeeOK (boo radley), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:22 (eighteen years ago) link

GCSE Geography Lesson - Revision

Great Britain = England, Wales, Scotland
United Kingdom = The above + Northern Ireland [Commonly Known as British as a description]

Not British:
Republic of Ireland - A Country with it's own Govt

However, all of the above included as a geographical entity known as "The British Isles" e.g for the Mercury Music Prize - Republic of Ireland & UK artists eligible.

Therefore when NME draws up the Best British Albums don't expect to see U2, My Bloody Valentine, Boomtown Rats, Thin Lizzy, Cactus World News, Sinead O'Connor, Enya, Clannad, The Whipping Boy etc

Hot Press Readers Top 100 Irish Albums of All Time.
http://digbig.com/4gbxc

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:24 (eighteen years ago) link

wow, not one girl is in ANY of those bands in the top 20

ridiculous

wow, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:29 (eighteen years ago) link

There's a woman in Dexy's

everything, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:30 (eighteen years ago) link

And Pulp

everything, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:31 (eighteen years ago) link

to clarify that hotpress 100 list includes the the island of Ireland, i.e The Republic of Ireland + Northern Ireland

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:32 (eighteen years ago) link

um, and Polly Harvey...

rombald, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:48 (eighteen years ago) link

I object to this meaningless list!

PB, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:51 (eighteen years ago) link

no loveless

Hairy Asshurt (Toaster), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:52 (eighteen years ago) link

oh wait,

ireland.

thatn doesn't count

Hairy Asshurt (Toaster), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Shields was born and partly brought up in the US (to an Irish family obv.) and MBV were never even based in Ireland. If Antony and the Johnsons qualify for this stupid list then so should MBV. Like I care.

I think this omission has more to do with NME's general shitness.

snotty moore, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:52 (eighteen years ago) link

21) Muse - Absolution 2003

I think THIS may be the biggest lump.

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:52 (eighteen years ago) link

1. Shit
2. Shit
3. Shit
4. Shit
5. Shit
6. Shit
7. Fucking Shit
8. Shit
9. Shit
10. Will this do?
11. This 17 year-old down the pub said she'd suck my cock if I put Northside in the Top 20
12. Utter Fucking Shit

'Curt' Russell (noodle vague), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:55 (eighteen years ago) link

antony and the johnsons? he might have been born in england but that doesn't make that a british album.

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:55 (eighteen years ago) link

21) Muse - Absolution 2003
I think THIS may be the biggest lump.

Too right. It should've been 'Origin Of Symmetry'.

Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Thursday, 26 January 2006 00:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Mind you, this list is slightly original in one respect - 'OK Computer' isn't in the top 10. By now, I've started to expect to see Thom Yorke's face while watching 'The Best Ever 70's Disco Classics' or whatever.

Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Thursday, 26 January 2006 00:28 (eighteen years ago) link

When did Geir start working at the NME?

The Bends > Ok Computer
Guitar, Melodies > Other shit

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 26 January 2006 00:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe if we ignore lists, they will go away...

musically (musically), Thursday, 26 January 2006 00:34 (eighteen years ago) link

21) Muse - Absolution 2003
I think THIS may be the biggest lump.

Too right. It should've been 'Origin Of Symmetry'.

OTM!

BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 26 January 2006 00:40 (eighteen years ago) link

...but not at 21, way too high

BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 26 January 2006 00:40 (eighteen years ago) link

The top 10 is obviously horrible and editorially focussed on music for disaffected British teenagers. Some interesting choices lower down which are a bit unexpected but it's probably too little too late. I guess it's not worth fussing over though, is it? How many of us here actually read the NME now?

Still - the Kaiser Chiefs would be nowhere near my top 100 albums of 2005 let alone all time!!

Daniel Paton (angriest dog), Thursday, 26 January 2006 00:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Another tip for the future:

Long urls behave exactly the same way as tinyurls when you click on them.

Nixonshead, Thursday, 26 January 2006 02:30 (eighteen years ago) link

"antony and the johnsons? he might have been born in england but that doesn't make that a british album."

Yes it does. For the purpose of that list anyways.

Harrison Barr (Petar), Thursday, 26 January 2006 02:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Nothing wrong about Franz Ferdinand, but I have a sneaking suspicion of NME make a Top 100 UK albums of all time list in 10 years, Franz Ferdinand are not in the Top 20.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 26 January 2006 03:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Regarding the Cure, it's interesting that The Head on the Door is the album picked when over the years it has been Disintegration that most have said is their classic.

Proves NME are not completely lost after all. I have always considered "Head On The Door" their pinnacle. The Cure have always been an excellent pop band when they have tried, whereas the somewhat overproduced "Pornography"-meets-"Be Here Now" orchestral goth of "Disintegration" bores me when I try to listen to it as a whole.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 26 January 2006 03:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Wow, the Beatles barely crack the top 10 and it's still stodgy and depressing. That is one hell of a feat.

disco violence (disco violence), Thursday, 26 January 2006 04:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I only used the ones I listen to, since I'm not objective about things:

1) The Rolling Stones - Exile On Main St. 1972
2) The Specials - S/T 1979
3) The Clash - London Calling 1979
4) Sex Pistols - Never Mind The Bollocks 1978
5) The Rolling Stones - Let It Bleed 1969
6) Led Zeppelin - II 1969
7) The Cure - The Head On The Door 1985
8) David Bowie - Hunky Dory 1971
9) The Beatles - Rubber Soul 1965
10) Polly Harvey - Dry 1992
11) The Stone Roses - S/T 1989
12) Elvis Costello - This Year's Model 1978
13) Black Sabbath - Paranoid 1970
14) Dizzee Rascal - Boy In Da Corner 2003
15) Primal Scream - Scremadelica 1991
16) The Beatles - Revolver 1966
17) Elastica - S/T 1995
18-27) tie:

Led Zeppelin - IV 1971
The Futureheads - S/T 2004
Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works 85-92 1992 *
The Beta Band - The 3 E.P.s 1998
Cornershop - When I Was Born For The 7th Time 1997
David Bowie - The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and The Spiders From Mars 1972
Portishead - Dummy 1994
The Who - My Generation 1965
Ride - Nowhere 1990
The Streets - Original Pirate Material 2002

Brian Jones (Brian Jones), Thursday, 26 January 2006 08:19 (eighteen years ago) link

85) ABC - The Lexicon of Love 1982

...

5) Arctic Monkeys - Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not 2006

I know it's a shameful thing to get angry at these lists, but I have to say that one stings.

James.Cobo (jamescobo), Thursday, 26 January 2006 08:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Proves NME are not completely lost after all. I have always considered "Head On The Door" their pinnacle. The Cure have always been an excellent pop band when they have tried, whereas the somewhat overproduced "Pornography"-meets-"Be Here Now" orchestral goth of "Disintegration" bores me when I try to listen to it as a whole.

-- Geir Hongro

*scratches head*

Then realizes where this comment is coming from so what can I say. That being said I wouldn't want Geir any other way!

Never thought the Cure would be compared to a very bad Oasis record.

BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 26 January 2006 09:09 (eighteen years ago) link

84) Redskins - Neither Washington Nor Moscow... 1974 *

Hahaha, I'll give them "forgotten" on this one! Haven't heard of them since reading about them in NME in '86 or something (ie the year given here is way off). Is it really a "gem"? What an unsuspected choice.

The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Thursday, 26 January 2006 09:13 (eighteen years ago) link

It is a gem. Yes.

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 26 January 2006 09:25 (eighteen years ago) link

I looked at the magazine in tesco's yesterday. I only skimmed it though, the graphic design of it renders it nearly unreadable. They must have got the designer from "bang" in after "bang" folded. If I'd read it all I'd have got a headache.

Nothing about it (the list) is very surprising, really, is it?

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 26 January 2006 09:43 (eighteen years ago) link

There's some good things about the list - Zombies as high as #32 is good. Black Sabbath, Eno, Redskins are slight surprises. Why is Dare a 'forgotten gem'?

Dr.C (Dr.C), Thursday, 26 January 2006 09:55 (eighteen years ago) link

It's not THAT bad list it could have been. OK, no excuse for the Coldplay albums, and Arctic Monkeys in the Top 5, and so on, but the most of the albums listed are good. FULL STOP

Are The Undertones count Irish too?

zeus (zeus), Thursday, 26 January 2006 10:23 (eighteen years ago) link

NME are Winston Smith in 1984, rewriting history to justify the present.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 26 January 2006 10:24 (eighteen years ago) link

To be fair (I know, God forbid) every list rewrites history, every new album reconfigures the music that went before, nicht war?

Madam, I Am Not a Doctor (noodle vague), Thursday, 26 January 2006 10:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Electric Wizard - Dopethrone should be in that top 100!

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Thursday, 26 January 2006 15:41 (eighteen years ago) link

29) Led Zeppelin - II 1969
28) Nick Drake - Bryter Layter 1970
27) Polly Harvey - Dry 1992
26) The Smiths - Hatful Of Hollow 1984
25) The Kinks - The Village Green Preservation Society 1968
24) Pet Shop Boys - Please 1986


pet shop boys! yes! in your face er... every rock band ever!

piscesboy, Thursday, 26 January 2006 15:41 (eighteen years ago) link

In NME this week there was a little boxout where they mentioned Butthole Surfers and it said "(ask your dad)" after it, that made me smile

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 26 January 2006 15:45 (eighteen years ago) link

re:

Isis, Electric Wizard, Jesu, Pelican, Sunno))) have never had Kerrang covers. It's time they did.

Rock Sound magazine covers all those bands, but unfortunately also covers a lot of generic emo / hardcore / commercial rock tripe.

Have NME covered those bands at all?

The day the NME puts any other of those on the front cover - will never arrive. Can you imagine the NME trying to promote/understand the brilliance of Jesu - to a bunch of Kaiser Chiefs / Oasis / Doherty / Strokes loving plebs

Although I could see pre Mark Sutherland era Melody Maker covering Jesu, also Sounds would have had them on the front cover.

Britain does need some weekly opposition to the trad-rock songs NME and the no quality control Kerrang.

[correction: Kerrang is £1.99 these days not £1.95]

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 26 January 2006 15:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Whats Metal Hammer like these days? It used to be quite open minded in the early 90s. But Kerrang started covering a lot of the same bands they hadn't previously and Metal Hammer went more conservative about 10 years ago.
Probably havent bought it since then.

A weekly mag that covered everything and took risks would be great.

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Metal Hammer has improved in the past couple of years, it went through a ghastly nu-metal phase in the early 00s.

There is an extreme metal section, they also tend to cover all bases of rock / metal - therefore there are going to be sections that don't interest everyone.

I would say Metal Hammer these days is a combo of Kerrang, Rock Sound and Terrorizer.

However like Kerrang - quality control suffers particularly in the front cover dept, how many times has Him been on the front cover.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:10 (eighteen years ago) link

The ghastly nu-metal phase started in about 96 i think...

I think poor quality control for front covers is the same for all those magazines at any time of their existence, and not just now.

Remember all those shitty hair metal bands with covers who sold shitloads of albums but never got in writers polls cos they didn't actually like them(sorry ILM hair metal fans)

It's no different now. How many of the bands who get regular front covers actually get in the writers polls?

And NME always get accused of putting stuff on the front cover thatthe writers don't like but the editorial team insists so the magazine will sell.

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Rock Sound and quite often Metal Hammer have to rely on their covers because the mag comes in a sodding plastic bag so you can't check who's in it

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:30 (eighteen years ago) link

I never buy a magazine now from a newsagent unless i can read it first to see who is in it. Apart from The Wire, which I always buy.
I order LLSS and Plan B from their sites.

I'm sure putting cellophane on magazines must harm sales. Everyone I know likes to read it 1st.

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Some of you guys here will always be discontent with a list unless

1. The list pretends The Beatles never existed
2. At least half of the albums on the list are by African American acts.

Better realise you'll never see a list like that.

-- Geir Hongro (geirhon...), January 26th, 2006 7:23 AM. (GeirHong) (later) (link)

Confession: I only clicked on this thread because I thought I might get some classic Hongro action.


U NVR DISAPPOINT GEIRBOT.

gbx (skowly), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link

I do like how the Muse fanbase is actually a kinda precursor to the Arctic Monkey/Babyshambles "Buy any crap with the band's name attached to it" phenomenom, so both the NME and the Kerrangs have to make a token effort to attracting them.

You are insane. I mean, we all remember that time when Muse were on the cover of NME every week even before their debut album had surfaced - those were the days eh? (A better example might be Ash)

Mind you, I don't understand Kerrang's love for Muse bar their guitar tech-wankery articles.

Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Pob is on the front cover of Kerrang! this week. POB!

Raw Patrick at work, Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:58 (eighteen years ago) link

"Twit de twirrit de tiwit de de doo doo"

Oh, that's Bod, isn't it?

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 26 January 2006 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Pob was the one with the striped jumper who used to spit all over the camera lenses then write in it, and talked gibberish.

Toyah did the voiceovers.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 26 January 2006 17:22 (eighteen years ago) link

KERRANGGG!!!
http://www.westbergholtfc.co.uk/Images/lookas/Pob.jpg

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 26 January 2006 17:26 (eighteen years ago) link

They seem to have missed a trick by excluding some "NME music" The 2000 guitar picks would have looked better if instead of two Coldplay and The Kasier Chiefs they went with something slightly more out there like "The Coral" or "The Decline of British Sea Power"

No place for "Urban Hymns" again like with Radiohead and Blur they seem to have swapped the opinion of which they prefer there. Not even attampted to include anything like Duran Duran (Which was in th last top 100 of all time they did.) No "Metal Box", no "Hats", no "Heaven or Las Vegas" and no "Club Classics Vol. One"

MitchellStirling (MitchellStirling), Thursday, 26 January 2006 17:26 (eighteen years ago) link

...which, Geir, is precisely the correct attitude to have towards music, right?

No, because then you miss the point about good music, which is that good music is completely timeless. Like the old classical music from the 18th and 19th century, for instance.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:12 (eighteen years ago) link

More precicely: Music that only works within a certain chronological and/or cultural context doesn't deserve attention.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Isn't Anything is 500 times better than Loveless. It should still be in the list, mind. Round about 10 or 11.

The Cosh, Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Music that only works within a certain chronological and/or cultural context doesn't deserve attention.

Is there any music which works across all cultural contexts? As 'old' classical music from the 18/19th century certainly doesn't.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:17 (eighteen years ago) link

At least Radiator is on the list. One of the greatest pop albums of all time.

enjoy bell woods, Thursday, 26 January 2006 22:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Stevie OTM, do fuck off

-- DJ Mencap

True I'm not a fan of metal but with my comment I was actually just trying to be funny. If I offended instead, I'm sorry.

BeeOK (boo radley), Friday, 27 January 2006 01:30 (eighteen years ago) link

No Spinal Tap or Rutles? Have you Brits gone mental?

Klotz, Friday, 27 January 2006 03:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Man, that list is sheeeeyite. Arctic Monkeys at #5? The Fall at #91? Worst. List. Evar.

GLC, Saturday, 28 January 2006 07:10 (eighteen years ago) link

They need controversial picks to get people complaining about it which gets publicity and people will buy the issue.

Remember they included Andrew WK in their best albums list a few years back and White Stripes - Elephant was in it and that wasn't even out yet.

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Saturday, 28 January 2006 13:42 (eighteen years ago) link

According to NME, the Arctic Monkeys album is the 5th best album ever this week.

In half a year, it sucks bigtime and Arctic Monkeys is some shite bollocks that only sad wankers and old people (20 year-olds, that is) listen to.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 28 January 2006 21:37 (eighteen years ago) link

I find myself agreeing with someone who thinks Pornography was overproduced :-/

Onimo (GerryNemo), Saturday, 28 January 2006 21:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I just discovered I claimed "Pornography" was overproduced while what I wanted to say is "Disintegration" was.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 28 January 2006 22:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Ah, I get you now. Still WTFing on that Oasis jibe all the same.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Saturday, 28 January 2006 22:30 (eighteen years ago) link

"Pornography" isn't overlong either. I used to dislike it before but it has grown me alot. Still prefer "Faith" and "17 Seconds" over it though, because Lol Tolhurst is going a bit too bananas on his drumset on "Pornography".

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 28 January 2006 22:36 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Maaaaaahhh chichilla. WEZ LEMON JELLY

wang aaaaaaaaah!, Monday, 20 February 2006 22:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Audiences sometimes vote for recent stuff, without caring about whether it will last or not. I thought professional writers should know better though.

Whether or not Arctic Monkeys, Libertines, Futureheads, Kaiser Chiefs belong in a list like this will be more obvious in 5-10 years time. By now, sure, put them at the bottom of the list, put give them some time before you rank them among the ten best albums ever.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 02:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Plus the fact that any list that doesn't have at least one Beatles album in the Top 3, plus 2-3 more Beatles albums in the Top 20, is pathetic.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 02:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I was about to agree with Geir then I got an x-post.
Lucky escape.

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 02:13 (eighteen years ago) link


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