― frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 21:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― sovietpanda (sovietpanda), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 21:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― stew!, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 21:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 21:42 (eighteen years ago) link
Modern Life Is Rubbish, Oddessy & Oracle, Dare, SF Sorrow, Selected Ambient Works vol 2, Kings Of The Wild Frontier = FORGOTTEN GEMS?
― everything, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 21:47 (eighteen years ago) link
Regarding the Cure, it's interesting that The Head on the Door is the album picked when over the years it has been Disintegration that most have said is their classic. For me both would be in the Top 100 but I'm geekie about the Cure so.
Since it is so titled to the 90's where the hell is Loveless?
― BeeOK (boo radley), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― stew!, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link
I think they really need to sort out this "British vs British Isles vs UK" thing though.
― everything, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― LoneNut, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:19 (eighteen years ago) link
1960's - 91970's - 201980's - 171990's - 312000's - 15
― BeeOK (boo radley), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:20 (eighteen years ago) link
I forgot that fact but I'm American so what the hell do I know anyways. ;-)
― BeeOK (boo radley), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:22 (eighteen years ago) link
Great Britain = England, Wales, Scotland United Kingdom = The above + Northern Ireland [Commonly Known as British as a description]
Not British:Republic of Ireland - A Country with it's own Govt
However, all of the above included as a geographical entity known as "The British Isles" e.g for the Mercury Music Prize - Republic of Ireland & UK artists eligible.
Therefore when NME draws up the Best British Albums don't expect to see U2, My Bloody Valentine, Boomtown Rats, Thin Lizzy, Cactus World News, Sinead O'Connor, Enya, Clannad, The Whipping Boy etc
Hot Press Readers Top 100 Irish Albums of All Time.http://digbig.com/4gbxc
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:24 (eighteen years ago) link
ridiculous
― wow, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― everything, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― everything, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― rombald, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― PB, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Hairy Asshurt (Toaster), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:52 (eighteen years ago) link
ireland.
thatn doesn't count
― Hairy Asshurt (Toaster), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:54 (eighteen years ago) link
I think this omission has more to do with NME's general shitness.
― snotty moore, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:52 (eighteen years ago) link
I think THIS may be the biggest lump.
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― 'Curt' Russell (noodle vague), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:55 (eighteen years ago) link
Too right. It should've been 'Origin Of Symmetry'.
― Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Thursday, 26 January 2006 00:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Thursday, 26 January 2006 00:28 (eighteen years ago) link
The Bends > Ok ComputerGuitar, Melodies > Other shit
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 26 January 2006 00:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― musically (musically), Thursday, 26 January 2006 00:34 (eighteen years ago) link
OTM!
― BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 26 January 2006 00:40 (eighteen years ago) link
Still - the Kaiser Chiefs would be nowhere near my top 100 albums of 2005 let alone all time!!
― Daniel Paton (angriest dog), Thursday, 26 January 2006 00:48 (eighteen years ago) link
Long urls behave exactly the same way as tinyurls when you click on them.
― Nixonshead, Thursday, 26 January 2006 02:30 (eighteen years ago) link
Yes it does. For the purpose of that list anyways.
― Harrison Barr (Petar), Thursday, 26 January 2006 02:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 26 January 2006 03:09 (eighteen years ago) link
Proves NME are not completely lost after all. I have always considered "Head On The Door" their pinnacle. The Cure have always been an excellent pop band when they have tried, whereas the somewhat overproduced "Pornography"-meets-"Be Here Now" orchestral goth of "Disintegration" bores me when I try to listen to it as a whole.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 26 January 2006 03:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― disco violence (disco violence), Thursday, 26 January 2006 04:52 (eighteen years ago) link
1) The Rolling Stones - Exile On Main St. 19722) The Specials - S/T 19793) The Clash - London Calling 19794) Sex Pistols - Never Mind The Bollocks 19785) The Rolling Stones - Let It Bleed 19696) Led Zeppelin - II 19697) The Cure - The Head On The Door 19858) David Bowie - Hunky Dory 19719) The Beatles - Rubber Soul 196510) Polly Harvey - Dry 199211) The Stone Roses - S/T 198912) Elvis Costello - This Year's Model 197813) Black Sabbath - Paranoid 197014) Dizzee Rascal - Boy In Da Corner 200315) Primal Scream - Scremadelica 199116) The Beatles - Revolver 196617) Elastica - S/T 199518-27) tie:
Led Zeppelin - IV 1971The Futureheads - S/T 2004Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works 85-92 1992 *The Beta Band - The 3 E.P.s 1998Cornershop - When I Was Born For The 7th Time 1997David Bowie - The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and The Spiders From Mars 1972Portishead - Dummy 1994The Who - My Generation 1965Ride - Nowhere 1990The Streets - Original Pirate Material 2002
― Brian Jones (Brian Jones), Thursday, 26 January 2006 08:19 (eighteen years ago) link
...
5) Arctic Monkeys - Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not 2006
I know it's a shameful thing to get angry at these lists, but I have to say that one stings.
― James.Cobo (jamescobo), Thursday, 26 January 2006 08:45 (eighteen years ago) link
-- Geir Hongro
*scratches head*
Then realizes where this comment is coming from so what can I say. That being said I wouldn't want Geir any other way!
Never thought the Cure would be compared to a very bad Oasis record.
― BeeOK (boo radley), Thursday, 26 January 2006 09:09 (eighteen years ago) link
Hahaha, I'll give them "forgotten" on this one! Haven't heard of them since reading about them in NME in '86 or something (ie the year given here is way off). Is it really a "gem"? What an unsuspected choice.
― The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Thursday, 26 January 2006 09:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 26 January 2006 09:25 (eighteen years ago) link
Nothing about it (the list) is very surprising, really, is it?
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 26 January 2006 09:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr.C (Dr.C), Thursday, 26 January 2006 09:55 (eighteen years ago) link
Are The Undertones count Irish too?
― zeus (zeus), Thursday, 26 January 2006 10:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 26 January 2006 10:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Madam, I Am Not a Doctor (noodle vague), Thursday, 26 January 2006 10:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Thursday, 26 January 2006 15:41 (eighteen years ago) link
pet shop boys! yes! in your face er... every rock band ever!
― piscesboy, Thursday, 26 January 2006 15:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 26 January 2006 15:45 (eighteen years ago) link
Isis, Electric Wizard, Jesu, Pelican, Sunno))) have never had Kerrang covers. It's time they did.
Rock Sound magazine covers all those bands, but unfortunately also covers a lot of generic emo / hardcore / commercial rock tripe.
Have NME covered those bands at all?
The day the NME puts any other of those on the front cover - will never arrive. Can you imagine the NME trying to promote/understand the brilliance of Jesu - to a bunch of Kaiser Chiefs / Oasis / Doherty / Strokes loving plebs
Although I could see pre Mark Sutherland era Melody Maker covering Jesu, also Sounds would have had them on the front cover.
Britain does need some weekly opposition to the trad-rock songs NME and the no quality control Kerrang.
[correction: Kerrang is £1.99 these days not £1.95]
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 26 January 2006 15:57 (eighteen years ago) link
A weekly mag that covered everything and took risks would be great.
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:00 (eighteen years ago) link
There is an extreme metal section, they also tend to cover all bases of rock / metal - therefore there are going to be sections that don't interest everyone.
I would say Metal Hammer these days is a combo of Kerrang, Rock Sound and Terrorizer.
However like Kerrang - quality control suffers particularly in the front cover dept, how many times has Him been on the front cover.
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:10 (eighteen years ago) link
I think poor quality control for front covers is the same for all those magazines at any time of their existence, and not just now.
Remember all those shitty hair metal bands with covers who sold shitloads of albums but never got in writers polls cos they didn't actually like them(sorry ILM hair metal fans)
It's no different now. How many of the bands who get regular front covers actually get in the writers polls?
And NME always get accused of putting stuff on the front cover thatthe writers don't like but the editorial team insists so the magazine will sell.
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:30 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm sure putting cellophane on magazines must harm sales. Everyone I know likes to read it 1st.
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:37 (eighteen years ago) link
1. The list pretends The Beatles never existed2. At least half of the albums on the list are by African American acts.
Better realise you'll never see a list like that.
-- Geir Hongro (geirhon...), January 26th, 2006 7:23 AM. (GeirHong) (later) (link)
Confession: I only clicked on this thread because I thought I might get some classic Hongro action.
U NVR DISAPPOINT GEIRBOT.
― gbx (skowly), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link
You are insane. I mean, we all remember that time when Muse were on the cover of NME every week even before their debut album had surfaced - those were the days eh? (A better example might be Ash)
Mind you, I don't understand Kerrang's love for Muse bar their guitar tech-wankery articles.
― Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Raw Patrick at work, Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:58 (eighteen years ago) link
Oh, that's Bod, isn't it?
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 26 January 2006 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link
Toyah did the voiceovers.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 26 January 2006 17:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 26 January 2006 17:26 (eighteen years ago) link
No place for "Urban Hymns" again like with Radiohead and Blur they seem to have swapped the opinion of which they prefer there. Not even attampted to include anything like Duran Duran (Which was in th last top 100 of all time they did.) No "Metal Box", no "Hats", no "Heaven or Las Vegas" and no "Club Classics Vol. One"
― MitchellStirling (MitchellStirling), Thursday, 26 January 2006 17:26 (eighteen years ago) link
No, because then you miss the point about good music, which is that good music is completely timeless. Like the old classical music from the 18th and 19th century, for instance.
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Cosh, Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:45 (eighteen years ago) link
Is there any music which works across all cultural contexts? As 'old' classical music from the 18/19th century certainly doesn't.
― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― enjoy bell woods, Thursday, 26 January 2006 22:12 (eighteen years ago) link
-- DJ Mencap
True I'm not a fan of metal but with my comment I was actually just trying to be funny. If I offended instead, I'm sorry.
― BeeOK (boo radley), Friday, 27 January 2006 01:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Klotz, Friday, 27 January 2006 03:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― GLC, Saturday, 28 January 2006 07:10 (eighteen years ago) link
Remember they included Andrew WK in their best albums list a few years back and White Stripes - Elephant was in it and that wasn't even out yet.
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Saturday, 28 January 2006 13:42 (eighteen years ago) link
In half a year, it sucks bigtime and Arctic Monkeys is some shite bollocks that only sad wankers and old people (20 year-olds, that is) listen to.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 28 January 2006 21:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Saturday, 28 January 2006 21:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 28 January 2006 22:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Saturday, 28 January 2006 22:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 28 January 2006 22:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― wang aaaaaaaaah!, Monday, 20 February 2006 22:17 (eighteen years ago) link
Whether or not Arctic Monkeys, Libertines, Futureheads, Kaiser Chiefs belong in a list like this will be more obvious in 5-10 years time. By now, sure, put them at the bottom of the list, put give them some time before you rank them among the ten best albums ever.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 02:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 02:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 02:13 (eighteen years ago) link