Don't even try to defend Stevie Ray Vaughan, ILM -- tear his oeuvre/legacy apart and throw it to the dogs

BTW: i don't think he's as bad as this thread makes him out to be.

Wes Montgomery??

He loved not wisely but too well.

Everyone else is sort of poking at the phenomenon of the man himself, his "influence", etc. You know, the usual ILM spiel. Anyway, he's far from my favorite blues player. But he'd probably be somewhere in the lower reaches of a top 50. It's helpful to think of him as coming out of that lineage of great and yes, flashy, Texas electric blues players - guys like T-Bone Walker, Freddie King, Albert Collins. King and Collins in particular never being known for the economy of their playing.

But then you'd have to give a rat's ass about blues music to care.

And really, speaking of contemporary players, Buddy Guy is just as bad as Vaughan in terms of over-playing, and I love him. But we probably wouldn't get a "defend Buddy Guy" thread on ILM. I actually would have been curious to see what Vaughan would have done - to see if he would have tried to challenge himself, maybe make a grimy, gut-bucket record like Guy's Sweet Tea release.

Sure, I definitely like him best when he plays slower - check that extended cover of "Tin Pan Alley" - or in a more jazzy vein ("Stang's Swing" or "Lenny"). And I still enjoy his early self-penned hit "Cold Shot". It has a nice loping swing and a cleaner guitar tone; it wouldn't have sounded out of place on ZZ Top's best record, Deguello.

You're not missing much, Scott. Dozens of gear reviews in which nothing can ever be condemned. Dozens of write-ups of "guitar
bands" in which the writer struggles to say something wildly
enthusiastic about a collection of talking/singing turds who coincidentally play guitars because everyone between the age of 10 and 30 is now or will be in a rock band.

A couple features on the same ten stars -- half of whom must either
be dead or dieing -- over and over because the only thing that
reliably sells the mags are pics of Jimmy, Jimi, Stevie or Eddie
on the cover.

Transcriptions of popular hard rock and metal songs, complete with
how to set up your computerized axe widget, so you can sound
-exactly- like your idol except without the talent.

A few guest columns by celebrity or fringe-but-allegedly-hip
guitarists who cannot write so someone on the staff ghosts as
them.

Superciliousness appropriate to the subject and times = outlawry in guitar mags.

ugh, gygax! OTM. Also, I fucked up - Vaughan didn't actually right "Cold Shot", it was a cover.

I think he has a really strong singing voice though for sure, unfortunately in a singing style that I dislike 99% of. Growl grumbly growl.

Again, I probably would be more tolerant of this feller's music had I not had to perform the fucking DUNG DUNG DUNG DUNG DUNG DUNG DUNG infinity boring ass non-booty-shaking basslines for control-freak Stevie Ray Vaughnabees, so take whatever I say with like 8 grains of salt.

i liked his guitar-playing on bowie's let's dance -- esp. the opening for "modern love."

he played guitar on james browns "living in america" although i can't place the guitar part from memory.

i hear plenty of soul clear as day in his playing. his talent (like shawn estes') was clearly affected by his alc.consumption but

Nah, there were even pictures of him stumbling over his amplifiers.

Nope. His run was short. They're all republished on his website.

For what it's worth, after living 3 years in Texas, I've heard more than what should be a tolerable share of bad Stevie copyists. Yet I can ALWAYS tell the original from the fascimile. And yes, the original is FAR superior. As someone mentioned above, the Austin City Limits performance is legendary. Golden. Classic. Classique. Except on that Voodoo Chile cover (you know, the one featured in the car commercial!).

SRV was in a poor position to preach, even though the message might
have been worthy. The stewbum axe savant was the image his he,
his record company and the media played up to market him. When
it became an embarrassing liability he was already a star.

The rocker as power drunk has always been a valuable commodity in
the marketing.

Take Ozzy -- the most perfect practitioner of the craft. Then he
complains that television appearances portray him as a doddering,
near paralytic old man enfeebled by neuro-degenerative disease
accelerated by a lifelong affair with strong drink.

I don't mind the rest of his stuff, but don't love it. I have no problem with good background filler for large gatherings (ie bars) in Texas. It's inoffensive, it's kind of fun when you're drunk, and everyone knows it.

The Double Trouble album with a rotating cast of guest singers/guitarists (Jimmy Vaughan, Jonny Lang, Susan Tedeschi) is unbelievably bad.

I agree that it would be interesting to discuss his individual style, but although you've described a little about what he sounds like, you haven't said anything about what makes him individual. Instead you've talked about what makes him the SAME to other people (Buddy Guy, Edgar Winter, etc). Is that clearer?

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Teddys not my real name you dumb fuck.

cinniblount: you want to get envolved you little dicksucking bitch, bring your shit too pussy. My mother has been dead since I was 14 years old, so shut you fucking mouth you motherfuck

Wait, your real name is Liam, so for your tough on-line name you choose: Teddy?

For the last time Cinniblount you little nigger want-to-be, I am American. Shut your fucking mouth before I fuck you up. Where you from bitch.

by the way Teddy I live in Los Angeles with your mother, but you'll have to get past her first. She's a beast.

Fuck You cinniblount you nigger toe sucking pussy

I have had my fun, sorry to all I offended. Fuck you SRV

See you guys some other time.

Fuck you all and god bless my filthy mouth

I really don't give a shit about what other people think of SRV, like him or not, he achieved more success than most of them ever will.

It just pisses me off when you post a picture of something so disrespectful (Not saying you owe Stevie respect, but you don't have to piss on him) and boast about it like it was "A good time for me and my buddies, to pee on Stevie". I would not piss on any thing that was ever intended as a memorial. I am wondering though was that you in the picture? Well anyway the SRV fan club scrubs the statue twice a year, I'm sure there going to enjoy me emailing them this pic. I'll email it the Jimmie Vaughan webmaster and Beverly at tommyshannon.com as well. I'll send the your best regards fortunate hazel.

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Hmmmmmm how do you post pitures.

Darn, I am being total serious. This picture is of me that my mom took a few months ago and I am so mad you made fun of me like I am a geek Srvgoogler. Just who the heck do you think you are? I am a really cool dude when you get to know me.

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