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― Mikhail Capone (Mikhail Capone), Thursday, 24 April 2003 22:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
― dave q, Friday, 25 April 2003 08:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
― M Carty (mj_c), Friday, 25 April 2003 10:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― bob snoom, Friday, 25 April 2003 16:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― your null fame (yournullfame), Friday, 25 April 2003 16:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 25 April 2003 18:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 25 April 2003 18:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
Yeah, I know I'm supposed to have some ironic stance etc, but no way, I'm going to enjoy music because it moves me in some way, not because it's totally ironic, like, woah, where's my white belt.
As for art metal, hrmm, I'm surprised to see Gorguts maligned, as "Obscura" is one of my favorites as far as this is concerned.As is Cynic's "Focus", which is a truly beautiful album, strangely enough, considering the band started out as yet another Florida death metal band. Be warned that this album has some "robotic vocals" that many people find absolutely disastrous.
I'll gladly second Maudlin of the well.I know a lot of people who'd say Agalloch, so I'll mention them, though I personally find them about as interesting as Accept.
Sigh deserves a nice big mention, particularly the HAil Horror Hail and Ghastly Funeral Theatre albums. Take simplistic 80s metal ala Venom etc, then add a curious penchant for progrock and experimentation. It shouldn't work, but it does quite well. The latest album is quite good too, though it's more hardrocky, but chockful of "vintage synths", as ol' progists would put it.
Another pair that I personally don't care for, but that might be worth mentioning are Korova (now Korovakill) and Angizia.
But screw it all; just get some Bolt Thrower! *performs thrashing, headbanging and general stereotypical 'hessian' moves*
I honestly don't know if any of these bands will intrigue you mister, err, Snoom, given that most of the bands you mention tend to veer closer to hardcore, or at least doom metal and sludge.
Perhaps CSSO (clotted symmetric sexual organs) will tickle your fancy. Grindcore meets psychedelia.
Sorry for the dreadfully scattered style of this post, but it got written in increments while doing other things.
― Øystein Holm-Olsen (Øystein H-O), Friday, 25 April 2003 18:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Kris (aqueduct), Friday, 25 April 2003 18:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sasha Frere-Jones (Sasha Frere-Jones), Friday, 25 April 2003 19:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
― your null fame (yournullfame), Friday, 25 April 2003 19:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
― original bgm, Friday, 25 April 2003 19:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― original bgm, Friday, 25 April 2003 19:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 25 April 2003 21:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
as for agalloch...can't stand the vocals. that's the problem with most metal bands with non-shrieking/growling vocals, they're just awful. ved buens ende i like, despite the vocals.
― your null fame (yournullfame), Friday, 25 April 2003 23:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 26 April 2003 15:10 (twenty years ago) link
― bob snoom, Saturday, 26 April 2003 16:18 (twenty years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 26 April 2003 21:23 (twenty years ago) link
― bob snoom, Sunday, 27 April 2003 11:10 (twenty years ago) link
I feel sort of silly for being part of this thread, as I realized that I'm not quite sure always what people mean when they're talking about art rock etc. For me Morbid Angel's "Blessed are the sick" is much more artistic than say something like Converge or Boris (though I love both of those bands)
As for the "does REAL metal hold secrets of time signatures & psychedelic mentalisms?" question of the initial post.. Undoubtedly, though mainly the former... Psychedelia often strikes me as the opposite of what most metal bands want to do. Though bands like Esoteric certainly have delved into that direction.I still say someone should send a bunch of Gong, Amon Düül II etc to Gorguts!Come to think of it, to go back to Morbid Angel, I often find a lot of Trey's solosections to delve into psychedelia in a way. That guy is plain weird.
― Øystein Holm-Olsen (Øystein H-O), Sunday, 27 April 2003 12:30 (twenty years ago) link
how about we send them a muffin basket with some CDR copies of "yeti," "you," "tago mago," maybe the silberbart album. see what happens.
― your null fame (yournullfame), Sunday, 27 April 2003 20:03 (twenty years ago) link
― bob snoom, Wednesday, 30 April 2003 11:57 (twenty years ago) link
― bob snoom, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 13:34 (twenty years ago) link
― kate, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 13:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 13:44 (twenty years ago) link
― bob snoom, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 13:50 (twenty years ago) link
― bob snoom, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 13:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:00 (twenty years ago) link
― bob snoom, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:04 (twenty years ago) link
― JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Wednesday, 14 May 2003 14:22 (twenty years ago) link
― bob snoom, Wednesday, 14 May 2003 15:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Raffles, Friday, 11 July 2003 18:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Raffles, Friday, 11 July 2003 18:51 (twenty years ago) link
― Raffles, Friday, 11 July 2003 18:52 (twenty years ago) link
Don't like Ved Buens Ende, but definitely check out Fleurety - just as weird, but more developed and more interesting.
I love Isis, Orthrelm, and have even warmed up to the new Locust CD (though I don't think that's metal in any sense, but I love the keyboards).
Also, for non-metal noise-guitar kicks, check out the last CD by Raoul Bjorkenheim's Scorch Trio (can't remember title; it may not even have one).
― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Friday, 11 July 2003 23:25 (twenty years ago) link
― your null fame (yournullfame), Friday, 11 July 2003 23:30 (twenty years ago) link
Enslaved's new Below the Lights CD is total art rock black metal, complete with flutes. Really excellent cut-up of high-speed rage, pompous ghostly folk, and prog breakdowns.
Solefald are a pretty great Jethro Tull-influenced post-black metal band.
Secret Chiefs 3 are barely metal, but Zappa-possessed ex-Mr. Bungle guys (not the annoying ones) pulling a virtuoso art-rock take on the fake mysticism of old Murat temple "oriental" bands.
Yeah, Tarantula Hawk are like a slacker Magma, and their latest is good.
As for Khanate, the members' splinter groups like SUNN are more experimental, but more about drones than ROCK.
Ulver's gone all the way from black metal to bad techno to blipcore, complete with a Fennesz remix on the new one.
Pan-thy-monium are heavily psychedelicized metal from Sweden in the mid-1990s, sort of like Acid Mother Temple landing atop Entombed.
Burzum's Filosofem could be compared to Mark Rothko, so I guess that's art metal.
The last Mayhem studio album, Grand Declaration of War, was arty in a bad but not worthless Flock of Seagulls kind of way.
Arcturus were the first metal band to use amen breaks.
Do the No-Neck Blues Band count? Their founding drummer was in the Texas metalcore (80s metalcore) band Angkor Wat.
And everybody's favorite Chris Burdon-inspired performance metal act AC has reunited, to the delight of reconstructive surgeons everywhere.
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Saturday, 12 July 2003 03:30 (twenty years ago) link
I thought Mayhem's last album sounded like Laibach.
― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Saturday, 12 July 2003 10:20 (twenty years ago) link
― your null fame (yournullfame), Saturday, 12 July 2003 10:40 (twenty years ago) link
actually, hasn't one of Bolt Thrower just put out a very arty jazz metal album??
― Wyndham Earl, Saturday, 12 July 2003 13:34 (twenty years ago) link
Heresy! HERESY!!!
― Siegbran (eofor), Saturday, 12 July 2003 14:09 (twenty years ago) link
Sigh!!!
― Jon Williams (ex machina), Saturday, 12 July 2003 14:12 (twenty years ago) link
I take that back, I take it back! Or at least they're a less reliable beast in the golden Earache stable of Morbid Angel, Carcass, Napalm Death, Godflesh, Cathedral... And by now haven't they fought one crusade too many?
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Saturday, 12 July 2003 15:06 (twenty years ago) link
― David Allen, Saturday, 12 July 2003 16:25 (twenty years ago) link
If every band named in this topic [plus the Thrones; Necrophagist; Absu; the original version of Kataklysm; even the reformed Celtic Frost] could gather for a 3-day festival in Iceland some year soon, I'd start building my ice bridge from New York now. Need somebody with a Segway to tow me part of the way on my runt bike. Party!
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Saturday, 12 July 2003 17:48 (twenty years ago) link
― bob snoom, Saturday, 12 July 2003 18:37 (twenty years ago) link
― Grant, Saturday, 12 July 2003 20:12 (twenty years ago) link
― your null fame (yournullfame), Saturday, 12 July 2003 21:11 (twenty years ago) link
Oh absolutely, they've basically become the Motörhead of Death Metal: an instantly recognizable, perfected and insanely catchy formula band with a live show resembling a twenty ton steamroller. But because their charisma, you forgive them for releasing the same collection of ten identical songs every two years.
But Bolt Thrower is a bit of an odd choice for putting down - if you would name and shame also-ran DM bands, why not point out the obvious ones: Benediction, Brutality, Monstrosity & all the NYDM 'groove' DM bands (or alternatively, basically every early 90s band on Nuclear Blast). The success of those bands basically bled DM completely dry.
Mayhem is apparently recording a new album at the moment. I'm REALLY looking forward to that one, as Grand Declaration Of War had a very interesting core concept but was a letdown because of quite superficial flaws (some dodgy/amateurish experimentation). After three years, it's still surprisingly good once you look behind that. They just need a critical editor and Hellhammer & His Merry Men could well come up with something truly spectacular again.
― Siegbran (eofor), Saturday, 12 July 2003 21:45 (twenty years ago) link
I really like the Mezzerschmitt EP, which is Mayhem minus Maniac plus a guy from Red Harvest, where they nail down a lot of the flighty concepts from Grand Declaration. (and sing in german, but offer one of those "we're not political" disclaimers on the back cover to thwart NSBM accusations.)
Also, the Swiss band Meridian do a wholly derivative but class job of basing their sound on the precepts of Grand Declaration. Fine and ingenious Swiss craftsmanship. I think they won their contract with Season of Mist via some sort of heavy metal Eurovision contest, but don't know much else about them.
― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Saturday, 12 July 2003 21:58 (twenty years ago) link
youre looking for more atmospheric BM? Try Drudkh.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link
New Drudkh is a bit more post-rockish, so I dunno if you would prefer that or the other stuff.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 21:36 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, they sound kind of like what I'm after. Plenty to be getting on with, cheers.
― rhythm fixated member (chap), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 23:06 (thirteen years ago) link
Tried real hard w/ the Vlevet Cacoons, but couldn't get into em. Sound great as background music, like having a thousand amplified cats purring at you, but there's no there there. It's just a pleasant tone, carried out for forty-some minutes. I have way too many "pleasant tone" records.
goddamnit this sounds so fucking incredible ^^^^
must seek out now
― hey ilxor, thanks for contributing, glad you stopped by (ilxor), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link
http://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/001759430
― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, 18 August 2013 19:05 (ten years ago) link
http://www.vox.com/2015/6/25/8840233/art-metal
― Eric Burdon & War, On Drugs (Cosmic Slop), Thursday, 25 June 2015 20:00 (eight years ago) link
Not sure how 'arty' High on Fire are. Not that that's the article's biggest problem.
But now I know this thread exists I might use it to dump any and all weirdo-metal bands I discover that don't fit on the Branca-metal thread to the resounding indifference of all.
― meaty, desperate, and honest about the world we live in (ultros ultros-ghali), Thursday, 25 June 2015 20:42 (eight years ago) link
Why didn't you?What are the best Art-Metal albums of 2016 then?
Aluk Todolo - VoixOranssi Pazuzu - VärähtelijäSchammasch - Triangle
what else?
― Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 25 September 2016 01:20 (seven years ago) link
http://www.themonolith.com/music/review-schammasch-triangle/
― Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 25 September 2016 01:23 (seven years ago) link
New Dysrhythmia is great: http://clrvynt.com/dysrhythmia-the-veil-of-control/
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Sunday, 25 September 2016 01:24 (seven years ago) link
I've ordered that but dunno when it will arrive. a couple of weeks I think so not gonna listen to a stream and will wait for the CD but as I own all of their albums and liked them a long time I am looking forward to hearing it!
― Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 25 September 2016 01:26 (seven years ago) link
Does it differ to the other albums, sund4r?
Ha, I don't know their other albums tbh. I have one of Kevin Hufnagels' solo albums, which I like a lot. (Need to get the new one.)
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Sunday, 25 September 2016 01:27 (seven years ago) link
oh! Ive been a fan of them since the 2nd album. Mr HCI loves to annoy me with pics of his demo cdr he got when it came out. Ive never ever seen one on sale anywhere
― Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 25 September 2016 01:32 (seven years ago) link
btw that Schammasch album I managed to get Mark S intrigued enough to listen to it a few months ago and he seemed to like some of it. So I really really recommend giving it a shot. It might be a bit over-ambitious but I find it quite rewarding to listen to.
It does help of course to listen to the album in 3 different sittings.I have the triple lp so have a break inbetween each side so it feels more like listening to 3 different albums (which tbh it is)
― Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 25 September 2016 01:41 (seven years ago) link
https://schammasch.bandcamp.com/album/the-maldoror-chants-hermaphrodite
"Swiftly following their Triangle triple album, Schammasch return with the first of a number of releases exploring the 19th century poetic novel, Les Chants de Maldoror by Comte de Lautréamont. Centred around a protagonist who opposes God and renounces morality’s conventions, this long-prose poem certainly lends itself thematically to an ambitious metal act"
― Odysseus, Friday, 9 June 2017 21:19 (six years ago) link
It has a bit of an industrial feel to it. Its short (32 mins) but very good.
― Odysseus, Saturday, 10 June 2017 22:35 (six years ago) link
black metal jazz! https://whiteward.bandcamp.com/album/futility-report
― Odysseus, Monday, 12 June 2017 22:15 (six years ago) link
can we make this a rolling thread from 2020 onwards
― imago, Friday, 1 November 2019 17:30 (four years ago) link
with a more palatable title
rolling metal can be wall to wall genre exercises and brutal death and 'this could have come out in 1982!' and we can all be happy
― imago, Friday, 1 November 2019 17:32 (four years ago) link
Sure, why not? Although now you're tempting me to start a rolling thread per metal subgenre, that I may forever be exempt from -core-related hype.
― pomenitul, Friday, 1 November 2019 17:37 (four years ago) link
<snooty voice>genre exercises</snooty voice>
― j., Friday, 1 November 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link
you're probably underestimating how snooty I felt as I typed that
― imago, Friday, 1 November 2019 17:45 (four years ago) link
I've begun to think of the metal I like as soundscape metal. That thing where I mostly love how I get images in my mind of winds and demons and fjords. Lots and lots of beautiful icy fjords. My faves this year has been stuff like Inter Arma, Abyssal and Pissgrave.
― Frederik B, Friday, 1 November 2019 17:52 (four years ago) link
ok plan abandoned
― imago, Friday, 1 November 2019 18:10 (four years ago) link
i saw my friend's little brother's band the other night -- Apprentice Destroyer -- kinda kraut-y. Nice kids!
― sarahell, Friday, 1 November 2019 19:38 (four years ago) link
Apprentice Destroyer
Awwww.
― pomenitul, Friday, 1 November 2019 19:39 (four years ago) link
here's a nice article about them:https://cvltnation.com/erase-your-mind-apprentice-destroyer-permanent-climbing-monolith-exclusive-full-album-premiere/
― sarahell, Friday, 1 November 2019 19:39 (four years ago) link
So I've just discovered Murmuüre :D
― imago, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:41 (four years ago) link
they probably didn't need FOUR guitarists to pull this sound off but it rules anyway!
― Simon H., Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:53 (four years ago) link
Murmuüre were amazing. I have their CDr but missed out on the vinyl issue when it came out a few years later as it sold out instantly and has been selling on eBay/Discogs for silly money ever since
― Vote (with a bullet) (Oor Neechy), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:20 (four years ago) link
Even the CD is £85 on here https://www.discogs.com/sell/release/2500715?ev=rb
― Vote (with a bullet) (Oor Neechy), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:21 (four years ago) link
Not sure if they are arty enough for this thread, but the new White Ward is awesome lounge-jazz black metal. Also, if you want more cool arty metallic stuff their recommendations at the end of this interview are all very cool: https://kvlt.pl/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Interview_with_WHITE_WARD_wwwKVLTpl.pdf
― o. nate, Thursday, 14 November 2019 03:13 (four years ago) link
Shit, the last post before the revive was a plug for... White Ward. Now I feel dumb.
― o. nate, Thursday, 14 November 2019 03:20 (four years ago) link
Don't sleep on those recommendations though: Genghis Tron, Cult Leader, Valborg, Hybrid... so much goodness.
― o. nate, Thursday, 14 November 2019 03:21 (four years ago) link