Rush: Classic or Dud?

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Hey, it's supposed to be a HAIKU, people !

Guitar mag gruel
Less smart than it wants to be
Pretty harmless now

Hey, gimme a break, I've never written a haiku before.

Patrick, Friday, 22 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Stoner's favourite

'Tom Sawyer' plays through art class

Turn that shit off now!

suzy, Saturday, 23 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Geddy Lee = King of the Mullet People

Kim, Sunday, 24 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'm in Canada I like said prog band less Than I did before

Dave M., Sunday, 24 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Truly dreadful, they Give "chops", prog-rock a bad name. Two good songs* -- rest's dud.

*( I reluctantly but freely admit that both Tom Sawyer and YYZ are both decent songs.)

Phil, Sunday, 24 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Oh dear, where did my line breaks go...

Phil, Sunday, 24 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Childhood memories
Older brother worships them
Despite this, they ROCK

Dan Perry, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Repeated listens
Render it annoying, eh
Still, sentimental

Sean Carruthers, Monday, 25 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one year passes...
I'm so bored tonight that I'm reading vintage "classic or dud"'s, and I have to say that the stipulation of submitting answers in haiku format is pure, unhomogenized genius. More please!

Alex in NYC, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Objectivist Rock a la Ayn Rand = DUD!

Jack Cole, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Unhomogenised
Gen-i-us?" You would say that,
Since you started it!

Jeff W, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

BA da BA BA BA

da BA BA BA BA da-da

BA da BA BA BA...

Joe, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Neil Peart squeals, righteous in his Objectivist zeal but all their songs suck

Shaky Mo Collier, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Drummers Who Write songs
Didn't make Hüsker Dü suck
it was Geddy's voice.

Mr Noodles, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

two years pass...
They may be cheesy
But add rocking conviction
Who else but Rush eh?

piers (piers), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Rush sucks my big dick
Geddy lee is a scourge on Earth
prog rock motherfucks

The TAO that can be Posted is not the TAO! (The Tao that can be Posted is), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:42 (nineteen years ago) link

more rush haikus please

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Andrew L missed the whole point of "Spirit of Radio"! TAO: Your second line would actually fit haiku conventions if you made it "Geddy is a scourge on Earth".

sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 8 October 2004 04:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Fly by night limelight
Too many notes played at once
Blame's on Toronto

Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 8 October 2004 05:26 (nineteen years ago) link

thank you sweet sundar, you are correct. that is what i meant to do. *tries to awkwardly plant a kiss on sundar's cheek and is promptly slapped on the face* ouch.

The TAO that can be Posted is not the TAO! (The Tao that can be Posted is), Friday, 8 October 2004 05:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Ayn Rand prog rockin'
Canadian eunuch squeals
You people so dumb!

Confucius, Friday, 8 October 2004 06:13 (nineteen years ago) link

moving pictures has
the very worst cover art
which is such a shame

subdivisions rocks
which counters all that i've been
told about this band

the lyrics are too
obvious but what can you
expect from hosers?

derrick (derrick), Friday, 8 October 2004 06:38 (nineteen years ago) link

'Limelight' licks are great
'Signals' is a true classic
The rest smells like wee

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Friday, 8 October 2004 07:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Once I crossed the street
Geddy Lee almost hit me
In his Land Rover

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Friday, 8 October 2004 07:32 (nineteen years ago) link

CLASSIC as long as this man was Prime Minister:

http://www.clevernet.on.ca/pierre_trudeau/images/pic_trudeau_beer.jpg

DUD thereafter

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Friday, 8 October 2004 09:45 (nineteen years ago) link

[...wish I coulda found a picture of him riding on a train & flipping off protesters thru the window!]

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Friday, 8 October 2004 09:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Rush is good
for opening up my pooper
so other men can do me

Good Dog, Friday, 8 October 2004 10:45 (nineteen years ago) link

. . . Or maybe not

Space-jazz-rock-tronic
If rednecks didn't like them
They'd be Kraftwerk-hip

Geddyvox

Less boy or girl than
Alien; Precise
Enunciation

sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 8 October 2004 15:44 (nineteen years ago) link

fact checkin cuz to thread

sleep (sleep), Friday, 8 October 2004 16:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Songs(works) and arrangements: Classic
Lyrics and vocals: Dud

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 8 October 2004 22:33 (nineteen years ago) link

I love Rush probably more than any other band....I don't think there BETTER than alot of bands, but they were a big part of my childhood....

Great band, I think.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 8 October 2004 22:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Young Black Teenagers
Seeking the phattest of shit
Sample Tom Sawyer

dlp9001, Saturday, 9 October 2004 00:01 (nineteen years ago) link

has anyone seen the episode of "trailer park boys" where they kidnap alex liefson?
i gained new respect for the man after watching that.

m0stly clean (m0stly clean), Saturday, 9 October 2004 13:44 (nineteen years ago) link

I have no haiku to offer which I why I didn't say anything before. But great, of course.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 9 October 2004 13:46 (nineteen years ago) link

i was at a party with some guys who were really entranced with some kind of video of stevie ray vaughn stranglin' the blues back in the '80s. doo-rags. these guys were such geeks, glued to the tube while there were girls to hit on and barbecue to scarf. then they got into "moving pictures," talking about the "production values" and saying things like "you can't deny the musicianship," while trying to be "ironic" about the whole stinkin' thing. typical night with people in nashville trying to be hip about not being hip or whatever that convolution is. then, everyone got drunk the host attempted to explain the shaggs to these geeks and everyone *listened hard and they got it*!! ahh. so, rush sucks and that's it, that's just like being "ironic" about kiss or worryin' about montgomery gentry, i think (as in the video where that goober takes off his cowboy hat to reveal an expensive-looking doo-rag/headwrap of some kind), and only the man upstairs can say whether rush is great or not...yes, rush did a record of covers i understand includes a version of eddie cochran's summertime blues done like blue cheer! so, they have roots like the rest of us, cuz.

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 9 October 2004 15:40 (nineteen years ago) link

worst. voice. ever.

oops (Oops), Sunday, 10 October 2004 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

No, that is Brian Johnson, Robert Plant or Bruce Dickinson. But Geddy Lee's voice is not far behind.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 10 October 2004 00:19 (nineteen years ago) link

As a band: dud. As a rite of passage: classic.
-- scott p (scot...), June 21st, 2001.

the wisdom in this succinct observation is humid. i loved rush until i discovered indie and punk rock in high school. hearing that particularly melodramatic cut "the trees" (i think that's the title) is still powerfully evocative of my 13-15 years, playing D&D, obsessing about securing issue # 202 of Spiderman, and committing to memory SNL lines. so i'll grant my meaningless benediction upon Rush in the same manner as the astute scott p.

j.m. lockery (j.m. lockery), Sunday, 10 October 2004 02:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Rush: Sophomore Lit.
texts become some deep and
meaningful lyrics.

Edward Bax, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 19:10 (nineteen years ago) link

"Red Barchetta" plays
on radio, Rush fan gets
a speeding ticket.

Edward Bax, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 19:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Fans debate how to
say Peart. Does it sound like "pert"?
No, it rhymes with "near".

Edward Bax, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 19:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Here: Rush's real names
Alex Zivojinovic
Gary Lee Weinrib

Edward Bax, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 19:11 (nineteen years ago) link

hahaha

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 19:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Classic.

NEER-neer-neener-neener
NEE nee nerr
NEER-neer-neener-neener...

That's my "Tom Sawyer" tribute. They should have collaborated with Gary Numan. Maybe there's still time.

Thea (Thea), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 19:19 (nineteen years ago) link

They sort of define dud, don't they?

Burr (Burr), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 22:19 (nineteen years ago) link

They define "dude," as in, one kid goes, "Dude, check out Neil's drum solo." Other kid nods in appreciation: "Duuuuuuude." I guess with each passing year I like them less than I did when I was 15, but I still wonder what people who dislike them aren't hearing. Maybe they haven't heard "Natural Science," or "Hemispheres," or "The Camera Eye." I guess Geddy's voice can be annoying but so can Neil Young's and Johnny Rotten's.

clark, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 22:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Canadian crap
You hosers should have stayed home
why why oh god why?

The TAO that can be Posted is not the TAO! (The Tao that can be Posted is), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 23:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Rush shall be absolved
of all sonic crimes because
"Working Man" kicks ass

Will (will), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 00:03 (nineteen years ago) link

rickenbacker bass
slingerland and tama drums
gibsons for alex

(uh, not that i knew very much about 'em)

naturalaw-dp, Wednesday, 20 October 2004 16:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Second-string classic
opening for Aerosmith.
As headliner, dud.

briania (briania), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 16:27 (nineteen years ago) link

once rock as a cultural force was pretty much spent.

side topic but this does not matter to me at all one bit? who cares?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 27 July 2023 18:20 (eight months ago) link

just hammer out some 74-75 material

Except Geddy mostly hates that stuff, and hasn't been able to sing it either for decades.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 27 July 2023 18:24 (eight months ago) link

three months pass...

Please tell if Geddy Lee's new television show is worth watching.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 28 October 2023 22:54 (five months ago) link

I'm sure it's worth watching but I don't really want to sign up for whatever service this is on

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 28 October 2023 22:55 (five months ago) link

He's also touring his memoir.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 29 October 2023 03:09 (five months ago) link

i had no idea that he had a solo album until about a week ago. #thingsyoulearnedwhenyouwereold

scott seward, Sunday, 29 October 2023 14:33 (five months ago) link

With Matt Cameron on drums, I think.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 29 October 2023 15:00 (five months ago) link

is every song about how much ayn rand sucks?

scott seward, Sunday, 29 October 2023 15:08 (five months ago) link

All the songs are about being a Working Man who is In the Mood.

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 29 October 2023 17:55 (five months ago) link

https://i.redd.it/1av52ozxomxb1.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 November 2023 01:51 (five months ago) link

Woah!

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 November 2023 02:46 (five months ago) link

This is a great piece:

https://wapo.st/3QzxgNL

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 11 November 2023 00:39 (five months ago) link

Thanks for that.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Saturday, 11 November 2023 04:04 (five months ago) link

Would Rush have had the success they did with Gershon Eliezer Weinrib and Aleksandar Živojinović fronting them? Given the era, I suspect not.

I don't want to catastrophise but there's a catastrophe looming (Matt #2), Saturday, 11 November 2023 15:53 (five months ago) link

That WaPo article is wonderful, thanks for that.

A. Begrand, Saturday, 11 November 2023 16:31 (five months ago) link

KISS featuring Chaim Witz and Stanley Eisen.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 11 November 2023 17:36 (five months ago) link

Anyone seeing the Geddy Lee book tour?

I forget why it came up, maybe it was that WaPo feature, but my wife watched the Rush doc and really liked it. She doesn't like the band, but did gain a newfound respect for them. She had a best friend in high school who was really into Rush, and could never figure out why this shrieky hard rock band clicked with her. Supposedly the doc helped her understand.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 20 November 2023 16:32 (five months ago) link

And oh shit, apparently Alex just guested on a Tool song in Toronto the other night?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 November 2023 00:14 (five months ago) link

my wife watched the Rush doc and really liked it. She doesn't like the band, but did gain a newfound respect for them.


Did we discuss this? This is exactly the same thing that happened with my wife.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 1 December 2023 05:17 (four months ago) link

^^^

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 1 December 2023 14:07 (four months ago) link

Nice interview with Geddy transcribed here:

https://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/rush/mojo-01.2024.php

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 03:20 (four months ago) link

Nice, thanks for the link!

Meanwhile, the other day I learned that one of Neil's biggest inspirations for his drum technique on "Animate" were Lush and Curve. Colour me pleasantly surprised!

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 03:38 (four months ago) link

Great Geddy interview. Love that guy. Sort of surprised about the coke revelations.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 14:14 (four months ago) link

It just goes to show that apparently *every* musician was doing coke, to some extent. Even Geddy Lee. I was kinda shocked at the revelation a few years ago that Mike Rutherford was a big coke abuser. (Whereas Phil was largely a teetotaler).

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 14:46 (four months ago) link

yeah it seems like it's pretty much impossible to comprehend how prevalent coke was in the entertainment biz in the 80s

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 15:16 (four months ago) link

As soon as the first Zeppelin LP dropped we all bought it and thought, What is this? It had a kinda Humble Pie vibe

Geddy has his chronology a little mixed up, the first Humble Pie album came out seven months after Zeppelin's debut.

It's touching to see how moved he is discussing Neil and Alex.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 15:17 (four months ago) link

(Whereas Phil was largely a teetotaler).

Maybe with coke but he was apparently hitting the weed pretty heavily back in the day, plus his notorious problems with alcohol.

dinnerboat, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 15:58 (four months ago) link

Imagine getting high with Tony Banks

sophie glanced up, looking concerned (Matt #2), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 16:39 (four months ago) link

cool he can be insufferable at a higher tempo

STUPID CRAP FACE (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 17:39 (four months ago) link

I think Phil's drinking problem came much, much later, like after he had (first) retired and had too much time and money.

I found the Curve/Lush quote btw!

For the opening track, 'Animate,' for instance, I used a basic R&B rhythm that I played back in my early days, coupled with that hypnotic effect that a lot of the British bands of the turn of the 90's had - bands like Curve and Lush. The middle section of the tune is the result of the impact African music has had on me, although it wasn't a specific African rhythm. I hear a section of a tune, and immediately I have to make choices, and many times those world influences I talked about earlier will come into play and contribute to my parts.

I can ... kind of hear it? Fwiw, I remember seeing Curve with Steve Monti and his playing made a big impression on me.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 17:50 (four months ago) link

the biggest Rush fan I know is also a big Curve fan, so this makes lots of sense to me

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 17:53 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

The Geddy book is *great.*

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 January 2024 14:12 (three months ago) link

Yeah I need to get that. Too much backlog!

The Lush/Curve detail above, I like that. (I'm kinda not surprised at a Curve/Rush fan continuum, Dean Garcia being such a studio hound in the best sense.)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 January 2024 19:04 (three months ago) link

I'm going to publish my suspicion that there will be some musical project to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the first album.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 12 January 2024 19:15 (three months ago) link

three months pass...

Seconding Josh, Geddy's book is a wonderful read. Re-listening to everything but now picturing the studios and cast of characters. He uses the pet nicknames for his band-mates throughout, and they change constantly from year to year!

Hearing Tom Sawyer/Limelight/Spirit on the school bus blasted from a boombox in the back seats where the cool kids sat. Journey sounded futuristic but Rush was on a whole other level. Subdivisions sealed the deal. Classic forever.

Psychocandy Apple Grey (Pyschocandles), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 05:03 (one week ago) link


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