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*weeps bitter tears of reproof* Actually, what the hell am I crying for? Besides, 'grandiose' isn't as fun a word as 'efflorescent.'

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 20 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Why but Nicholas, isn't grandiose above......oh fuck.

I should have been here earlier. Damn that London Transport.

Taylor Parkes, Sunday, 20 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Yikes, it's Taylor Parkes! Fuck, I'm trumped in the fame game.

Momus, Sunday, 20 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Rumbled, the lot of you. I actually have a sneaking suspicion, though, that the guy who keeps posting random insults towards ya, Momus, is Alan McGee on an AOL account.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 20 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Other Music. I never thought of that. I never go in that store. I probably should. I also just realized my last post wasn't entirely truthful. I didsee "Folktronica" up on the walls at Kim's once a while ago, which was the spark that made me remember the the image of "guy w/eyepatch" from Poperation Help in NYC last January. I said, "Who 'dat?" But the eyepatch is a good gimmick, as someone noted here once before (if it is a gimmick) because it's what made me remember "...Momus, oh yeah..." When I went back Kim's later to just pick it up on a whim, it was gone. After coming here and finding the link to his site, I see he's been making cds since the early '90s and I just wondered why the hell I couldn't find 'em around these parts. I'll keep looking. I'm definitely interested from what I see (except the Momus cam). He seems funny. I hope his music is very musical, though, and not just musical noises loosely assembled around lyrical oddities (you know, gimmicky). I'll try Other Music. Thanks!

And, I'll side with Ally about that "going above 14th street" business. Personally, I like the smallness and snuggliness of lower Manhattan, but the people could mostly catch on fire and I wouldn't be too upset. Of course, NYC, in general, is full of pose/eurs, so it's easy enough to ignore them anywhere. But, some of the nicest parts of the city, restaurants and getaways, can be found in those big, scary numbers, too. It's also not as filthy, which is nice, too.

, Sunday, 20 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Early 90s? Check the bio again, heybuddy. Though certainly all his earliest stuff first came out on vinyl. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 20 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Explanation: No US releases until 1996. Hi McGee! I was indeed unfamous in your lunchtime.

Momus, Sunday, 20 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"Iworshipped Momus for years. I live in central Canada and he was my sophistacated Dandy . I spent hundreds of dollars on imports , rarities and mercahndise. I downloaded live tracks and rarites from Napster, gnutella and hot line. I burnt CDs and gave them to my friends like ad execs gave cocaine in the 80s. I plasterd my room with photos. I hitchiked to LA to go to concerts. Through his website he introduced me to Serge Gainsbourg and J Pop. I learnt more about Superflat . I wrote Art History papers that had him as a introductury quote nad an entry in the bibliography. Then I started to lurk on this board. Every post he wrote reminded us he was in Tokoyo He said things like "I have an apartment in New York and I don't go below 14th St". Now I am in the boonies and maybe i am just a rube. Is he being amusing and epigrammtic like Andy Warhol or is he just a twit. Now i know how difficult it is to lose childhood obsessions but i feel disinfranchised . "

Anthony, if you want to live someplace better than the boonies why not just do so? MOmus tells us what he is doing in life becasue unlike most ego-strangled "music geniuses" he wants to share his life with his fans, albiet electronically. I mean realy, someone give s you such valuable insights, music and references, and you thank him with hostility? DO you really crave his love, as a father figure or something? I say, have admired cohorts, but worship no man. Just listen to his songs and enjoy his cool website .

Mike Hanley, Sunday, 20 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Damn, you're right. 1986? Probably earlier, too. I must say, some of those CD covers are the coolest covers I've seen (hippopotamomus, little red song book, philosophy of momus, timelord). I want them all, just for the cute covers!

, Sunday, 20 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I think what i was saying in a roundabout way was that fandom can be consuming. If who you are a fan of disappoints you become bitter. This is completley unresonable. A msuician is a musican and an essayist is an essayist They are not someone to worship. They are not big brothers or any more important for their notority or their foriegness. I think this badly written post was trying to say that realizing the artists you love are not without their foibles is a rite of passage.

To clarify, Sunday, 20 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Well you can either be a fan -vampire who sucks songwriters dry of ideas and then discards them , or be thy like a nice bee, going flower to musical flower, loving the flower feild.

Mike Hanley, Sunday, 20 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Interested parties might like to know that 'Bogus' was originally coined at the Insult Mint by one B. Gillespie a *long* time ago, so maaaaaaybe...

suzy, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

That too. I admit either theory is hampered by the fact that neither Gillespie nor McGee are in the remotest sense Cockney, but maybe that makes a better alias. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Gillespie was prescient: the Bogus man has ended up making Fake Folk records. Whereas Primal Scream are still, in a very real sense, keepin' it real, man.

By the way, has anyone got the URL for those gay porn fan fantasies reported recently in Q magazine's Gay Pop feature, involving Bobby Gillespie and Jim Reid? I wanna jack off to that shit, man. For real!

Momus, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

so who is winning the competition of "most threads named after an ilm poster whose fame extends beyond the internet"? i'd say momus, with simon reynolds close behind and taylor parkes picking up steam. though i am of the opinion that at least TWO of the momus threads were started by the man himself. ;)

fred solinger, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

As long as Momus doesn't start any threads about comics and role- playing games, who care? ;-)

proton, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Alas, not immediately found, but putting "jim reid bobby gillespie fuck" into google.com produces some bemusing results.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Sigh. I love putting my research skills to such edifying uses:

http://www.screamadelica.co.uk/justlikehoney.htm

Nick, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

mam once knitted me a green jumper with a pacmonsta on it . my sista said what if it's all a sham and he's in scunthorpe, i don't care - on wiv tha masque(s), firstborn thinks ive been mailed by a japanese corsair - "is he like the dread pirate roberts dad ?"

El Bruto, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

'I worshipped Momus for years. I live in central Canada and he was my sophistacated Dandy .' that is, without question, the greatest opening ever written in any form. nick hornby take note.

ethan, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

momus is crap. thank god he is now on the japanese indie circuit: ie. dinner theatre for aging soap opera stars.

doompatrol23@hotmail.com, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

What>? What aging soap stars are on the Japanese indie circuit?

Mike Hanley, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Doompatrol corresponds with Susan Lucci, that's how he discovered her j-pop fetish and love for Momus.

tired proton, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

NE1

geordie racer, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Doompatrol's Susan Lucci page:

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Studio/8890/

proton, scourge of mankind, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

heroes let you down ?

well i thrashed lauren laverne at pool intha egypt one drizzly sunday night, she looked aghast.

this talksoftheadphone sh'ite iz well 3key, your words come out sounding like a demonic-deanna-durbin

cheers to tha wrongfooted googliers - fishin' moi ?

El Bruto, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Hah, well if you believe what Patty & Selma and half the fringed twats in London seem to say, I thrashed Lauren Laverne regularly. What a strange, twisted world that indie scene is. What a load of bollocks. I suppose it's all the price of being more famous than Momus. For about a year, in the last century.

I stopped enjoying Momus LPs a while ago, but that's my personal taste. How can he be anything but a good thing? I shouldn't say any more, because almost every time I ever met him I was extremely drunk and probably antagonistic or, at best, a bore. Also, I'm terribly jealous of anyone whose life corresponds even remotely with what they'd like their life to be, which isn't normally a problem in these sorts of places.

Taylor Parkes, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Then there was ET's comment on a Tangents journal entry about you as well, Taylor -- presumably that just fits in to what you were talking about vis-a-vis That There Indie World. But Dickon Edwards says nice things about you, which reminds me that I need to get those interview questions to him.

I don't think I ever properly answered the main question this thread posed -- seems to me he's just talking about things as they happen, and he has the chance to go to a lot of spots I don't have the chance to and reflect on the results. It makes for a good experience. And I was listening to him for moons before starting to chat with him every so often, and now he's here. Way cool, mang.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

What aging soap stars are on the Japanese indie circuit?

Oh, they're all here. Dithery Dot and Dirty Den play 'zero memory sampler' and 'no input mixer' in a band called Kabuki Alzheimer. Babs Windsor does a 'frozen statuette' act to the sound of Gilbert and George's 'Underneath The Arches' every Tuesday night at the Nadiff Art Cafe. And Colin from Crossroads plays wheelchair theremin in Boredoms spin-off OOIOO -- he just twitches and the wheelchair sings.

What if it's all a scam and he's in Scunthorpe? Rumbled! On with the masque!

Momus, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

As a resident of what, were I North American, I would call the boonies, I sort of know how Anthony feels.

I think I was totally foolish to hero-worship Momus the way I did. But then the same applies to a lot of people I've looked up to. I work hard and concentrate on the work these days, not like back then.

Robin Carmody, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

hooray! i knew momus would like that jibe.

: - )

I used to have sex to Momus.

Just popped in my head that insult and had to use it!

doompatrol23@hotmail.com, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

you know i used to like that comic 'doom patrol' and you're starting to give it a bad name.

ethan, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

MOmus is just in Japan for the Bikkle and Pocari Sweat.

Mike Hanley, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i hate to bring up another comic book, but remember that issue of akiko about pocari sweat? that was awesome.

ethan, Monday, 21 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

hahahaa....can I really take someone seriously named ethan padgett??

answer: no.

doompatrol23@hotmail.com, Tuesday, 22 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'd be insulted if I heard Paul was having sex to my record, or just plain flabbergasted someone so nasty to the people posting here managed to find a partner in the first place. Or maybe not. It could have been a solo mission. What song was it, sweetie?

suzy, Tuesday, 22 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

HAHAHAAH!!!

: - )

I like being insulted as well (is that a hint??? weell...no.....maybe....)

Ummm...believe it was "tender pervert" "the angels are voyeur"...on cassette, nonetheeless!!!!!!

doompatrol23@hotmail.com, Tuesday, 22 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

No......

Not cassingle but CASSETTE. Purchased in a help the aged. Sounded like if Felt had written porn for seniors.

DOOMPATROL23@HOTMAIL.COM, Tuesday, 22 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

errr...of course it was the 23 minutes long remix by the orb and not the three minute version.........honest! *giving honest joe face*

doompatrol23@hotmail.com, Tuesday, 22 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Momus: >Why, even the NME's gone all nicey nicey...

This week's NME has half a page of phone sex adverts. Real ones. Is that what you meant, Nick? One of them says "MANDY - 30 SECS 'TIL U SMILE." Presumably a Labour campaign line for the Hartlepool area?

Oh, everyone's gone.

Yours, a sophisticated dandy warhol.

Dickon Edwards, Wednesday, 23 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I am confused - Momus was your "sophisticated Dandy" and you were put off by the fact that he name drops about Tokyo and being snotty about New York?

Dave M., Thursday, 24 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Hee hee. Sophisticated dandy ...that makes it sound liek he is some kind of sugar daddy and you are a twink or something. Like he is the candy man of your own private Canada "WHo can take your stereo fill it full of sperm insult you to your face and expose his Scottish worm The Dandy Man cAn then dany man can cause hes Momus and he just came into your ear"

Mike Hanley, Thursday, 24 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

To think of Mandelson and Scargill - two of the most contemptible men in Britain - actually opposing each other. Any Hartlepudlians reading this: VOTE LIB DEM.

Ahem. The phone sex stuff the lowest ebb in the NME yet, surely?

Robin Carmody, Thursday, 24 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Has the NME ever had a high ebb?

Mike Hanley, Thursday, 24 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Well, it's been better.

Robin Carmody, Thursday, 24 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

five months pass...
Is there really a Momus Boulevard in Coventry?

John Robinson, Monday, 12 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

where is the rascal these days

Mike Hanle y, Saturday, 24 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one month passes...
I saw MOMUS live at The Mercury Lounge during the Little Red Songbook tour with TOOG and Kahimi Karie. I wrote a review.. He's brilliant!

http://www.geocities.com/sscwon/momusliv.html

Todd, Wednesday, 26 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one year passes...
It's time to give Momus some big props.

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 30 August 2003 21:27 (twenty years ago) link

Don't ask me, I don't even know who Momus is, mate.

mei (mei), Saturday, 30 August 2003 23:10 (twenty years ago) link

Thanks so much for sharing, that was awesome to read. I was at the Lawrence Kansas show and remember really enjoying it.

erasingclouds, Thursday, 14 December 2017 03:38 (six years ago) link

seven months pass...

He's been videos for new stuff every couple of days on youtube. Residents meets ISB vibe in most of it so far. Anyone listening?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHLymyfTAhw

everything, Monday, 13 August 2018 04:38 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

I have. This is my fave from the new album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5o8VAmEQnM

daavid, Thursday, 1 November 2018 23:40 (five years ago) link

seven months pass...

One of the best opening posts in site history

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 21:18 (four years ago) link

Is it the one by Anthony? /zing

TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 21:45 (four years ago) link

*Loads, scrolls, nods*

TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 21:47 (four years ago) link

The first three posts are all great.

Luna Schlosser, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 22:30 (four years ago) link

Between this and the Miles thread today has been Ye Olde ILX0r Wayback Wednesday.

TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 22:44 (four years ago) link

I wish anthony still posted. There is a lot of overlap between his interests and mine, it seems

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 22:47 (four years ago) link

I’m a fan of momus but if he knew me he’d think i was a rube for sure you know so, preemptively, fuck you momus

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 22:48 (four years ago) link

Anthony helped me edit down my mom's obituary so it could fit within the required parameters to be published in the local newspaper. I'll never forget that bit of kindness extended to me.

Just like I won't forget how I used to listen to Momus's podcast episodes (back when he hosted them on his website -- I found his voice soothing, even if I disagreed with his content) and in one of them he rhapsodized about one of my top 100 favorite songs of all time (and the namesake to what was my vehicle at the time), David Sylvian's "Orpheus". Any man who loves DS can't be all that bad.

Dee the (Summer-Hating) Lurker (deethelurker), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 23:43 (four years ago) link

seven months pass...

60 today!

Luna Schlosser, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 22:06 (four years ago) link

doompatrol doing robust half-bright sock-work on the thread, i wonder how he is these days

mark s, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 22:19 (four years ago) link

60?!?!?

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 22:42 (four years ago) link

Good for him. I check in on his tumblr every once in a while and he seems to be doing well and still living by his own rules.

treeship., Tuesday, 11 February 2020 23:15 (four years ago) link

‘Flame Into Being’ is one of the forgotten great songs of the 80s.

treeship., Tuesday, 11 February 2020 23:15 (four years ago) link

I was just listening to Stars Forever today. I think it's my favorite album of his. His old ironic-misogyny stuff really grates, but some of the songs on Stars Forever have the kind of heart I wish he'd put into his poetry more often.

OneSecondBefore, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 23:16 (four years ago) link

Yeah he has a kind of nabokovian disdain for anything sentimental. This attitude seems to be declining—probably for the worse. It’s good to have some mandarins around.

treeship., Tuesday, 11 February 2020 23:25 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

For those not in the habit of visiting the *BBC Scotland website, he's working on a Covid-LP.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-52270653

(*I'm not either, someone posted the link on Facebook).

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Sunday, 19 April 2020 09:13 (four years ago) link

"At that moment, I was very scared. I really thought - this is it - and started anticipating all the RIP Momus messages people would be posting."

... on ILX. They missed that bit out.

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Sunday, 19 April 2020 10:21 (four years ago) link

^ Ha! I liked "The Hairstyle of the Devil reached number 94 in the singles chart in 1989."

djh, Sunday, 19 April 2020 10:45 (four years ago) link

too high

mark s, Sunday, 19 April 2020 11:00 (four years ago) link

... on ILX. They missed that bit out.

Well, yeah

Three Hundred Pounds of Almond Joy (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 April 2020 12:01 (four years ago) link

my man with the hustle

treeship., Sunday, 19 April 2020 12:12 (four years ago) link

“My Corona” lol

Paul, Sunday, 19 April 2020 13:33 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

So there is a book about Momus coming out from Zero Books. I’m reading the blog it’s based on, fifteenpeople.com, and revisiting some of those albums.

Timelord is a great record. Not as snotty and arch, filled with longing and despair, so more my speed than his other records. I like how he draws out the main theme of most sci fi— the fact that so much of our technology is motivated by a desire to overcome time and death. The kind of thing that sounds trite in a messageboard post but the buried longing does come out on songs like Enlightenment, which also deals with more contemporary concerns

treeship., Saturday, 1 May 2021 14:09 (two years ago) link

of course it's fucking zer0

cancel culture can't go far enough

Left, Saturday, 1 May 2021 14:13 (two years ago) link

I’m discovering some personal stuff about him in the blog that isn’t so cool also.

treeship., Saturday, 1 May 2021 14:14 (two years ago) link

Not trying to avoid that reality. I feel like momus is cancelled here already so discussing the music should be ok

treeship., Saturday, 1 May 2021 14:16 (two years ago) link

six months pass...

Ah. Just came here to wonder how the book was?

djh, Saturday, 27 November 2021 16:49 (two years ago) link

I'm unable to watch his series of Open University videos because he has this possibly unconscious click in his speech which really triggers my misophonia.

Luna Schlosser, Saturday, 27 November 2021 20:07 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

Did anyone read the book?

djh, Sunday, 30 January 2022 19:41 (two years ago) link

three months pass...

I wrote it, if that helps?

thranjax, Saturday, 30 April 2022 13:05 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3KwmdOYPvk

MaresNest, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 17:28 (one year ago) link


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