New James Bond = Daniel Craig.

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To me he looks too "rough" and weathered to play Bond.

Connery was fairly rough and weathered looking - in comparison to yer Roger Moores and Pierce Brosnans I mean

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 14 October 2005 14:29 (eighteen years ago) link

This is terrible, but I can't really tell the last couple of Bonds apart. (Actors, that is, not the films.)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 14:30 (eighteen years ago) link

... but not in comparison to yer Jared Harrises! (xpost)

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 14 October 2005 14:31 (eighteen years ago) link

OI!!!!

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 14:32 (eighteen years ago) link

i wasn't a bit fan of the brosnan bond films (what i saw of them) (ok goldeneye was ok, but maybe i'm remembering goldeneye n64) but i think this turn to "darkness" is an iffy idea

geoff (gcannon), Friday, 14 October 2005 14:33 (eighteen years ago) link

(Though it is only a matter of time until Harris is a Bond villain. Rowr. It's been a while since I fancied a Bond villain so much I was rooting for *him*. Oh wait, yes I can, hott Scottish blokey who couldn't feel pain whose name escapes me but is always getting his kit off in other films.)

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 14:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Seems they've decided to follow Roger Moore-style Bond (Brosnan) with a Connery-style Bond... Dalton was, errrrrrrrrrrr, sort of Connery too, so the next one will be another Moore

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 14 October 2005 14:36 (eighteen years ago) link

All you naysayers..... you're just wrong. Daniel Craig is a great choice for Bond (and my tip since I saw him in those wee little Brit-flicks this year). Just edgy enough. Just good looking enough (I spose) and I'm sure he can pull off those cack-handed one-liners the current set of writers seem to ply Bond with.

uptoeleven (uptoeleven), Friday, 14 October 2005 14:38 (eighteen years ago) link

'the living daylights' was an attempt at 'dark', and although it's not very dark, it's the best bond film.

N_RQ, Friday, 14 October 2005 14:38 (eighteen years ago) link

He kind of looks like he's already been embalmed.

O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Friday, 14 October 2005 14:39 (eighteen years ago) link

is the living daylights the one that starts off with a clown?

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 14 October 2005 14:40 (eighteen years ago) link

'the living daylights' in the context of bond films, is by far not the best bond film. come on now stop this.

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 14 October 2005 14:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Nope that was Octopussy. Living Daylights is the one that starts on Gibraltar. Oh yes, and also a bit rubbish.

uptoeleven (uptoeleven), Friday, 14 October 2005 14:42 (eighteen years ago) link

no, that's octopussy. TLD starts over gibraltar[...], and then it's a-ha [...] -- little bit of bush -- [...] and then we're in vienna < / alan partridge>

N_RQ, Friday, 14 October 2005 14:42 (eighteen years ago) link

This is terrible, but I can't really tell the last couple of Bonds apart. (Actors, that is, not the films.)

i can't tell ANY of the films apart, they are just one giant amorphous BLOB O' BOND in my head...

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 14 October 2005 14:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Anyone actually read the books? A friend who did always seemed to think the movies were a cop-out as Bond was basically this nasty person who did all kinds of despicable things for queen and country. By the end he'd be tortured or at least wearied, barely hanging on to humanity, etc. Read what you will into that about his sexual encounters.

mike h. (mike h.), Friday, 14 October 2005 14:44 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm going crazy trying to find one specific Bond villain I remember from my youth. Bah.

x-post, yes, I read the books religiously as a child.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 14:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Goldfinger, followed by Dr. No, followed by From Russia With Love, followed by The Living Daylights.

Roger Moore - obviously drunk, yet drank the least onscreen.

George Lazenby - fell victim to Connery's accent.

Pierce Brosnan - Over-the-top stunts with hot cars and hotter women.

Timothy Dalton - a Shakesperian actor in an MI6 body

Sean Connery - Run along, now. Man Talk.

Big Loud Mountain Ape (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Friday, 14 October 2005 14:46 (eighteen years ago) link

'the living daylights' has classy references to 'the third man'. it fukcing powns.

N_RQ, Friday, 14 October 2005 14:48 (eighteen years ago) link

See, there's the one with the Train, the one with All The Gold, the one with the spaceship, the other one with the spaceship - or was it a stolen nuclear missle? - the one with the media tycoon who wanted to take over the world, the one where they tried to blow up the Golden Gate Bridge, the one with the oil pipeline, etc. etc. etc.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 14:50 (eighteen years ago) link

You know, I was thinking all "damn, I had no taste as a 12 year old, Roger Moore is so not hott" until I saw this:

http://www.waguet.net/bond/Roger%20Moore.jpg

But anyway, I'm still getting my head around the new Bond's blondness (I know, I fancy blond men, but James Bond is so not blond) and found this apologia for Roger Moore which made me laff like a drain:

"TOO BLONDE?"

This one always gets me. Some folks seem genuinely upset that Roger Moore has blond hair, presumably because James Bond does not. Well, so what? I don't see a scar on Sean Connery's cheek. I didn't notice baracuda tooth-marks on Timothy Dalton's shoulder. None of the actors looks exactly like Fleming's Bond, and it's likely none ever will.

If it bothers you that much, turn down the brightness button on your TV set until Roger becomes a brunette.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 14:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I've never heard of Daniel Craig! He looks like a cross between Robson and Jerome!

jel -- (jel), Friday, 14 October 2005 15:30 (eighteen years ago) link

See, there's the one with the Train

not a bond film ;)

one eye white, one eye black (FE7), Friday, 14 October 2005 15:38 (eighteen years ago) link

The one with the Russian and the train and the "agent" what was really working for SPECTRE. That one.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 15:40 (eighteen years ago) link

i know, i know. i always think of from russia with love as the one in istanbul

one eye white, one eye black (FE7), Friday, 14 October 2005 15:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Is this the guy from Layer Cake?

I think I approve.

Lion-O (nordicskilla), Friday, 14 October 2005 15:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Since I am female, he was the best thing about Tomb Raider.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 14 October 2005 15:45 (eighteen years ago) link

is Tomb Raider all he's been in? I bet they aren't paying him much.

jel -- (jel), Friday, 14 October 2005 15:46 (eighteen years ago) link

There's never been a James Bond who was a big name (big screen) actor before he was Bond - the closest was Timothy Dalton

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 14 October 2005 15:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Brosnan was a bigger name than Dalton.

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, but in TV. I don't think he'd ever been in a film.

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, not in starring role. I mean, what do I know about movies anyway?

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:13 (eighteen years ago) link

he had a gay scene in the Long Good Friday!

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Brosnan was like Roger Moore, he was basically a TV star, Dalton had been in a lot of movies

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:15 (eighteen years ago) link

. It's been a while since I fancied a Bond villain so much I was rooting for *him*. Oh wait, yes I can, hott Scottish blokey who couldn't feel pain whose name escapes me but is always getting his kit off in other films

Who, Robbie Coltrane?

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:15 (eighteen years ago) link

I like the new guy, but frankly he looks more like a Bond villain or one of those 00-agents gone wrong.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Robert Carlisle!

I cannot for the life of me remember who the other one was. He was kind of chubby, had longish blond hair and a pointy nose. Surprise, surprise there. He had a boat, too. Possibly also a girlfriend who was a ballerina? Or am I mixing up several bond villains here?

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I hope Bond doesn't turn into one of these Guy Ritchie hip "gun" (OMG he's got one GUN) movies.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:19 (eighteen years ago) link

????

RJG (RJG), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, this Daniel Craig guy seems to be thought of as "sexy" or "cool", but Bond needs to be "handsome" and a little bit old fashioned.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:20 (eighteen years ago) link

RJG, I just hope the tone of Bond doesn't become snatch/transporter/lock stock etc.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:21 (eighteen years ago) link

I've only seen lock stock but I cannot see why that would be a risk/possibility

RJG (RJG), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:21 (eighteen years ago) link

xxxxpost

Well it's not Alan Cummings. Dunno who it could be, Sean Bean perhaps?

Carlyle was the Russian who couldn't feel pain, easily confused with Big Robbie ;-)

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:22 (eighteen years ago) link

hasn't the whole world decided they fucking hate guy ritchie now (and rightly so)? I don't think it will happen.

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:22 (eighteen years ago) link

RJG, I haven't seen Layer Cake, but I've assumed it's in the same sort of nu-british "guy" movie vein.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:23 (eighteen years ago) link

it's a thousand times better than those movies

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:24 (eighteen years ago) link

That would be horrible. That said, I've never actually seen any of those films. But Bond is supposed to be somehow... classy and timeless in a way that those films are supposed to be cool and gritty. Bond is supposed to be sexy, though. Just understated sexy, not IN YER FACE FECKING BLING sexy if you know what I mean.

I have a picture pinned to my wall of Sean Connery, dressed to the nines in tux/white tie, shimmying through Fort Knox with a gun which is just about the sexist thing I've seen in my life - which contradicts all of that. But still.

x-post

Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, this Daniel Craig guy seems to be thought of as "sexy" or "cool", but Bond needs to be "handsome" and a little bit old fashioned.

Again, i don't think this ever applied to Sean Connery

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:24 (eighteen years ago) link

You don't think Connery was "handsome"??? Also, he seemed to be surrounded by new and hip things but did not really take part in them.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:26 (eighteen years ago) link

more importantly worthington should not be in movies ever

conrad, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 22:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Broccoli, daughter of long-time Bond producer Albert 'Cubby' Broccoli, is known to have purchased the film rights to A Steady Rain, the Broadway play Craig appeared in with X-Men star Hugh Jackman last year.

If made, the film would be the first non-Bond film made by the Eon production company since Bob Hope comedy Call Me Bwana in 1963.

I smell reboot...wait.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Kinda lol, mostly lol

HI DERE, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link

craig should be bond for a long time.

― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 21 April 2010 23:13 (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

more importantly worthington should not be in movies ever

― conrad, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 23:15 (19 minutes ago) Bookmark
Agreed!

not_goodwin, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link

i thought i just read yesterday that bond was on indefinite hold while the studio figures out if it's bankrupt or not. anyway I don't know why they now feel like they have to replace bond every three films.

akm, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 22:51 (thirteen years ago) link

maybe to keep the franchise in people's minds, retain its vitality, capitalize on daniel craig's availability to play bond, and so forth. all guesses, of course.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 21 April 2010 22:52 (thirteen years ago) link

puurhaps the exp of sam mendes making a bond movie was so blindingly stupid to all involved that they called it off w/ the "oh studio's bankrupt maybe" as pretext. could be.

goole, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 22:55 (thirteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2011/jan/12/bond-23-daniel-craig-mgm 50 years since the first Bond film!
I hope this one isn't.. influenced by Inception or something.

piscesx, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 14:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Some talk here:

Thread Title TBC: Bond #23

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 14:08 (thirteen years ago) link

SMH for Mendes, I wish someone else was directing.

not the sort of person who would wind up in a landfill (Nicole), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 14:08 (thirteen years ago) link

McG. Oh wait.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 14:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Even he would be an improvement!

not the sort of person who would wind up in a landfill (Nicole), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 14:35 (thirteen years ago) link

I'd be intrigued to watch QT's mooted Bond film. It would almost certainly be more a Tarantino movie than a Bond movie though.

A brownish area with points (chap), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 15:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Actually dream director for the next bond would be Cuaron.

A brownish area with points (chap), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 15:01 (thirteen years ago) link

SMH for Mendes, I wish someone else was directing.

http://www.reallymeansounds.com/forum/attachments/motor-movies/26073-fast-furious-5-sexy_eva_mendes.jpg

Indolence Mission (DJP), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

best part was how bond goes from getting his onions peeled with a bell ringer rope to being healthy enough to sex up eva 5 minutes later

乒乓, Monday, 7 January 2013 17:56 (eleven years ago) link

he is James Bond, you know; that was probably foreplay for him

Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Monday, 7 January 2013 18:26 (eleven years ago) link

three years pass...

casino royale was such a great movie, the tone was so excellent and craig had the perfect humor and devil may care attitude and even when it got "serious" it wasn't stifling. then they had to go and fuck up the reboot and make it deadly serious. there's a perfect middle ground between "octopussy" and "it is i james, the author of all your pain" or whatever and i think CR was it.

nomar, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 18:52 (eight years ago) link

That's a big problem when the reboot of a series gets it right first time: the writers can't leave well enough alone and mess it up. QoS particularly is such a joyless movie, a bit of humour wouldn't have made it a great film, but at least it would have been a bit more watchable. Moore's run has the same basic problem: first movie gets it right, but then the attempts at humour make it worse, until they try and make the films serious around FYEO but that didn't work out either.

an opportunity thick enough to taste (snoball), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 19:02 (eight years ago) link

Moore's first go has aged p badly (eg race)

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 19:03 (eight years ago) link

the hillbilly sheriff from the moore era is the disco stu of the bond franchise

nomar, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 19:04 (eight years ago) link

xp yeah it' o________O from start to finish. So is TMWTGG in the middle.

an opportunity thick enough to taste (snoball), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 19:08 (eight years ago) link

no love for live and let die then? I thought that was by far the best moore film

akm, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 19:09 (eight years ago) link

oh, live and let die WAS the first moore. my bad.

akm, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 19:10 (eight years ago) link

QoS is so good. Skyfall and Spectre are bottom tier Bonds but QoS is one of my favorites. A stumped, dumb Bond staggering around killing people, no interest in the girl, she's got no interest in him. I think there's some humour there. And it's so zippy, neat, lean. Villain with a mundane, realistic plan but quite entertainingly portrayed. Nice real world locales. The opposite of the two disasters that followed basically.

abcfsk, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 19:10 (eight years ago) link

i feel a little better about QoS now after the last pair of Bonds bc its minor ambitions to be a bourne ripoff are more charming and more in keeping with the bond series kind of following action movie trends.

nomar, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 19:13 (eight years ago) link

I saw no glaring qualitative difference between the last four James Bond movies. All serviceably entertaining, moderately dumb action movies featuring fan service that I at least half understood due to the cultural ubiquity of the 468 Bond movies which I haven't seen.

My Whole Existence Is Flan (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 19:14 (eight years ago) link

I just rewatched Casino Royale after reading the book, and also because I needed cheering up after Spectre. Nomar OTM -- it's a really good film, and the action scenes are tight -- I can't believe Sam Mendes saw them and thought "What Bond movies *really* need are worse action scenes and better cinematography."

What I didn't remember is just how cheesey it is, at least for the first hour: the old mobile phones, the chintzy Miami hotel scenes, the dorky jokes. Very nineties. It's like a Brosnan Bond done right.

Also, Eva Green is really fun - a definite improvement on Vesper in the book, and just miles and miles better than any ot the other subsequent female leads (not counting M).

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 20:46 (eight years ago) link

thinking over it again, dave bautista might be the best part of this recent one

the plane chase down the mountain was tight, enjoyed the really sterile clinic before it, too

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 20:55 (eight years ago) link

the idea that james bond is more comfortable in a shack or rat's nest drinking booze than in anything nice and modern is a good touch, the character should only seem at home in a sleek modern building if it's on fire

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 20:56 (eight years ago) link

"What Bond movies *really* need are worse action scenes and better cinematography."

Now Sam Mendes is otm.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 20:58 (eight years ago) link

this is about Bond, not whether Sam Mendes has ever had salient ideas

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 6 April 2016 21:00 (eight years ago) link

casino royale was such a great movie, the tone was so excellent and craig had the perfect humor and devil may care attitude and even when it got "serious" it wasn't stifling. then they had to go and fuck up the reboot and make it deadly serious

otm

marcos, Wednesday, 6 April 2016 21:04 (eight years ago) link

nah come on Léa Seydoux rocked.

piscesx, Thursday, 7 April 2016 12:24 (eight years ago) link

CR is great until car crash. After that is Mendez shit.

Ecomigrant gnomics (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 April 2016 12:35 (eight years ago) link


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