David Fincher -- c/d?

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Well, it did make him, and make him big. But try reading "Lullaby" -- this guy is so angry he kills people with his voice. Oh, so angry! Man is he ever angry! and with a flimsy premise!

x-post I didn't much think of "bitch tits" as a gag. I thought of it as this horribly weak and unfortunate person that this even more weak and far more fortunate person has decided to draw energy from. It's just the damndest dynamic. I couldn't have thought of it.

Tonight at ten (kenan), Saturday, 18 September 2004 00:52 (nineteen years ago) link

I was actually amused by his author photo on the book because the first person I thought of was Albini (if he didn't wear glasses).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 18 September 2004 00:53 (nineteen years ago) link

BUT BACK TO FINCHER, then. A tosspot.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 18 September 2004 00:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Is that like a tossup?

Tonight at ten (kenan), Saturday, 18 September 2004 00:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Or like a bucket of spunk?

Tonight at ten (kenan), Saturday, 18 September 2004 00:56 (nineteen years ago) link

It's like a saucepot, but worse.

ex-jeremy (x Jeremy), Saturday, 18 September 2004 00:58 (nineteen years ago) link

trent and him play d&d at sharon tate's house i think.

OTM.

which is cool.

Not so OTM.

Tonight at ten (kenan), Saturday, 18 September 2004 01:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Fight Club's the only one I can say I quite liked.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 18 September 2004 01:07 (nineteen years ago) link

I loved Seven.

Fight Club is great if you watch it as a black comedy and nothing more (It's at least a lot better than the book, which I didn't much like at all). It does sort of fall of apart towards the end but it's still pretty funny.

The Game and Panic Room sucked.

Alien 3 I like, it's certainly no classic but it's not that bad of a movie.

I guess the best thing that can be said about Fincher is that on the visual/technical level he's one of the top Hollyood directors around.

The faux-nihilism schtick he specializes in is a love-it-or-hate-it thing I suppose.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 18 September 2004 02:30 (nineteen years ago) link

I really like all his movies! I think Panic Room is underrated. Yeah it looks amazing but I think it is genuinely tense and suspenseful.

kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 18 September 2004 02:46 (nineteen years ago) link

and I love the Game because he made San Francisco look so gorgeous

kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 18 September 2004 02:47 (nineteen years ago) link

I read some great freudian take on Panic Room I remember that made it much better and more hitchcockian.

The Game was good for its slickness too.

The others are trash.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 18 September 2004 02:59 (nineteen years ago) link

he reminds me of jeunet

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Saturday, 18 September 2004 03:03 (nineteen years ago) link

i like trash!

kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 18 September 2004 03:07 (nineteen years ago) link

The Jeunet comparison is really interesting. Is it the sensibility that makes you say that, or just the color scheme?

Tonight at ten (kenan), Saturday, 18 September 2004 03:10 (nineteen years ago) link

I've liked 'em all, esp. Fight Club, which is one of my fave movies (and books) and except Panic Room, which I haven't seen. I liked Palahniuk's Choke, if only because of its many absurdities (like the anal beads gag - literally).

B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Saturday, 18 September 2004 19:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Fincher gets good performances out of his actors. Ironic, since more often than not they're totally wasted.

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 18 September 2004 19:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I haven't seen the Game or Seven since I saw Fight Club and Panic Room, so it's possible I wouldn't like them as much if I saw them again.

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 18 September 2004 19:34 (nineteen years ago) link

You're right in that he normally knows how to pick/work a cast.

B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Saturday, 18 September 2004 19:39 (nineteen years ago) link

God knows, seeing Leto's face become a mashup was something I never considered wanting before I saw it. Now it's compulsive viewing.

B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Saturday, 18 September 2004 19:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Jeremy, I think the script to Panic Room is quite brilliant. Have you read it?

I like Fincher well enough. he's not as visually interesting as he is often made out to be but incredibly slick (in a good sense). I enjoyed The Game and Panic Room much more than I did Fight Club or Seven, which were good in parts.

adam. (nordicskilla), Saturday, 18 September 2004 19:46 (nineteen years ago) link

He's better than Aranofsky, of course.

adam. (nordicskilla), Saturday, 18 September 2004 19:47 (nineteen years ago) link

I think I'll have to agree with you on that last point!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 18 September 2004 19:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Let's face it - if there is anyone here that doesn't, we should probably just shoot them.

adam. (nordicskilla), Saturday, 18 September 2004 19:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Like the grouse that they are.

adam. (nordicskilla), Saturday, 18 September 2004 19:50 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm beginning to understand your current state of mind.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 18 September 2004 19:52 (nineteen years ago) link

aronofsky is better than you think.

cºzen (Cozen), Saturday, 18 September 2004 19:59 (nineteen years ago) link

do you like films, cozen?

adam. (nordicskilla), Saturday, 18 September 2004 19:59 (nineteen years ago) link

films is OK.

cºzen (Cozen), Saturday, 18 September 2004 20:04 (nineteen years ago) link

I wonder that about all of you a lot of the time.

B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Saturday, 18 September 2004 20:05 (nineteen years ago) link

God knows, seeing Leto's face become a mashup was something I never considered wanting before I saw it.

you get to see this in 2 Fincher movies, right? I hope it happens in his next one too.

kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 18 September 2004 22:43 (nineteen years ago) link

(waay xpost) no, adam; but I should take a look at it... no?

ex-jeremy (x Jeremy), Sunday, 19 September 2004 02:16 (nineteen years ago) link

three years pass...

Fincher slated to direct adaptation of Charles Burns' "The Black Hole". I am excited.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 21 February 2008 20:45 (sixteen years ago) link

wowwww

s1ocki, Thursday, 21 February 2008 20:47 (sixteen years ago) link

book is awesome, Fincher perfectly suited to the material. Gaiman's involvement = uhhhh, but still...

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 21 February 2008 20:48 (sixteen years ago) link

i was so drunk on this thread

remy bean, Thursday, 21 February 2008 20:49 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah, does gaiman get these screenplay gigs by default now because he's worked in comics and film? it's not like any of the movies he's been involved with have been big successes.

Jordan, Thursday, 21 February 2008 20:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Fincher's slated to/actually directing ratio not very encouraging.

Cosmo Vitelli, Thursday, 21 February 2008 20:51 (sixteen years ago) link

(i guess beowulf made $$$, didn't see it)

Jordan, Thursday, 21 February 2008 20:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Wait, what:

We're also interested to see what The Finch does with Rendezvous with Rama, which he's also directing.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 February 2008 20:52 (sixteen years ago) link

morgan freeman, right?

remy bean, Thursday, 21 February 2008 20:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Fincher's slated to/actually directing ratio not very encouraging.

-- Cosmo Vitelli, Thursday, February 21, 2008 8:51 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

^^^

'rendezvous' has been "slated" since honeys was wearin sassoon.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 21 February 2008 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link

i still remember his idea of a three-hour black-and-white adaptation of 'the black dahlia', which in retrospect makes me depressed.

omar little, Thursday, 21 February 2008 20:58 (sixteen years ago) link

probably woulda been better than DePalma's lolz

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:00 (sixteen years ago) link

gaiman kinda sucks.

i love that rendezvous w rama (awesome book) is morgan freeman's dream project

s1ocki, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:00 (sixteen years ago) link

When I saw this headline on Empireonline, my initial thought was that he was remaking Disney's The Black Hole, which would've been something.

I've not read Black Hole, but the other Burns stuff I've read suggests the two would be a great marriage.

chap, Thursday, 21 February 2008 22:08 (sixteen years ago) link

lolz I thought it was about the Disney movie at first too

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 21 February 2008 22:08 (sixteen years ago) link

(BH is easily Burns' best work btw)

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 21 February 2008 22:09 (sixteen years ago) link

I wonder how this will compare to Liquid Television's DogBoy hahah

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 21 February 2008 22:09 (sixteen years ago) link

it’s so fun

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 03:45 (three years ago) link

I found the cast unattractive but it's been so long.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 03:48 (three years ago) link

Gone Girl and Zodiac are basically tied for me lol

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 04:41 (three years ago) link

the social network is very good

flappy bird, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 19:22 (three years ago) link

i probably need to see gone girl again but i had read the book before i saw the movie and didn't really feel like the movie added much that wasn't already in the book. i remember it being a fine adaptation but not a special movie beyond that. i'd be curious to hear more from fans of the movie about what it is that appeals to them about it as a movie. this is not a challenge, again i haven't seen the movie since it first came out.

na (NA), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 19:33 (three years ago) link

I found it obvious and cloddish. No surprises except when Tyler Perry was onscreen. I wish Verhoeven had directed.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 19:38 (three years ago) link

i read the book first too! i thought the movie basically removed everything i found annoying about the book

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 19:39 (three years ago) link

i'm not sure how to counter "obvious and cloddish" but i found it visually awesome and appropriately creepy and cold

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 19:40 (three years ago) link

also idk the book has a binary structure right? and fincher had to make that more like an unfolding narrative and i think he did a great job of threading everything together

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 19:41 (three years ago) link

Not having to read Gillian Flynn’s sentences makes the film an immediate improvement

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 19:43 (three years ago) link

lol essentially yes

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 19:44 (three years ago) link

the only thing I'd want excised is the Scott McNairy character/scene

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 19:45 (three years ago) link

also, v good Fincher commentary track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIJXB1jfB2o

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 19:48 (three years ago) link

Maybe the novel (I've only read Sharp Objects) offered interior monologues or a narrator who made Pike's character less...transparent? She practically twirled a mustche. idk this played like a movie whose developments were obvious and took a long time time getting to the denouement.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 19:49 (three years ago) link

idk maybe knowing the twist inoculated me against noticing any mustache-twirling, pike seemed to nail the "presents a cool surface beneath which roil the thoughts of a high-key sociopath" 2 me

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 19:53 (three years ago) link

the book alternates the two main characters as (unreliable) narrators iirc

Number None, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 23:19 (three years ago) link

That's helpful. Maybe Fincher, trying to compensate, emphasized Pike's villainy as a way of reflecting the explicitness of the text.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 23:24 (three years ago) link

well this was a crock of absolute shit

Babby's Yed Revisited (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 18:22 (three years ago) link

Be crueler.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 18:25 (three years ago) link

Wouldn't go that far but this was too unfocused. Script needed a lot of work. I like pretty much everything Fincher's done but couldn't get into this one

Vinnie, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 00:34 (three years ago) link

Gary Oldman's vocal tics started to grate on me too

Vinnie, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 00:35 (three years ago) link

the performance grated for me. my main issue was that I was constantly thinking "why am I watching this?" throughout the film, which is always a bad sign. I am favourably inclined towards fincher, and the film looks fine, but I think the script just sinks this thing.

Babby's Yed Revisited (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 00:40 (three years ago) link

Bill Nye as Upton Sinclair was a nice surprise. Would watch that biopic.

swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 01:03 (three years ago) link

also i was watching with headphones and i maybe i'm crazy but it sounded like the dialogue had an effect on it to make it sound like you're watching a movie in a theater - a very slight echo/reverb

I noticed this too! It was fairly disorienting thru my terrible tv speakers.

swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 01:13 (three years ago) link

_also i was watching with headphones and i maybe i'm crazy but it sounded like the dialogue had an effect on it to make it sound like you're watching a movie in a theater - a very slight echo/reverb_


I noticed this too! It was fairly disorienting thru my terrible tv speakers.


Was that not fairly obvious for most people? Sometimes my sound system craps out and I have to resort to TV speakers and the Mank sound design was very similar to what it sounds like if I accidentally have the TV speakers and system playing simultaneously. Did make me check my set-up early on.

circa1916, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 02:35 (three years ago) link

well this was a crock of absolute shit


also lol

circa1916, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 02:37 (three years ago) link

Was that not fairly obvious for most people?

I would imagine so. Mostly just reminded me how much better it would've been at a theater.

swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 04:19 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

my main issue was that I was constantly thinking "why am I watching this?" throughout the film

spot on

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 5 April 2021 17:36 (three years ago) link

yeah, I kinda enjoyed it while watching but have thought of it 0 times since

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Monday, 5 April 2021 18:12 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

very confused at the casting of 62-year-old gary oldman to play someone who was in their 30s and early 40s during the majority of the story, especially when you also have to make him look like shit.

beyond that, what everyone else said--it's a bad script.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 1 May 2021 19:24 (two years ago) link

have you seen photos of the real mank

he looked like he was 80 when he was 30
oldman was a good choice!

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 1 May 2021 19:35 (two years ago) link

if anything oldman looks too young lol

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 1 May 2021 19:37 (two years ago) link

i feel like if this movie were internally consistent mank would have written his hitpiece script about louis b mayer

call all destroyer, Sunday, 2 May 2021 04:04 (two years ago) link

a bad pun ignored develops into a long, slurring ad hom attack, digging up stuff from the past. Mank is an ilxor.

If you value Vox, we have an axe (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 2 May 2021 18:55 (two years ago) link


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