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I don't understand the rugby hate here either, I went to a rugby school and it was full of wankers but I still love watching a good game of Rugby Union. I never played mind you. What you/I have to remember aswell though perhaps is that in Ireland Rugby Union is not solely a snobby or posh sport, sure there are loads of Brian O'Driscoll style "i jusht got a sooper troy alroysh man" types but outside of Dublin people are really into rugby and it's not a snobs thing at all.

Just look at Keith Wood or Peter Stringer, the Keano's of Irish rugby without the borderline psychosis or annoying Man U connection.

Rugby is an absolutely brilliant sport, when it's good. I have only begun to admit this to myself recently, perhaps my enthusiasm is also because Ireland have been quite successful recently.

I don't think I've ever been as animated/mental watching anything as I was watching Munster beat Leicester last year or indeed Ireland squeezing out a result against Wales in the last minute. Absolutely invigorating stuff I'm telling you.

Rugby is also the most competently administrated sport I can think of, they are always trying new rules and ways of refereeing and it's the better for it. This is one area where other sports could really take note.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 13:10 (twenty years ago) link

I would agree with the administrative competence thing. In England at least there is almost continual war between the clubs and the RFU.

A fantastic game to watch.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 13:14 (twenty years ago) link

you know the story that it was "invented at rugby in 1823 when [xx] picked up the ball and ran 45867 yards with it HURRAH!!", why did this one single instance of blatantly breaking the rules turn into a whole new game (or several in fact) when in all other cases of ditto the other side simply said "er excuse me but THAT DIDN'T COUNT!!"

also in medieval football seeing as the pitch was infinitely big and you could like strab the opponents etc i'm sure picking up the ball and running w.it was also on the menu

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 13:26 (twenty years ago) link

I went to a rugby school and it was full of wankers but I still love watching a good game of Rugby Union. I never played mind you.

i never played either, which i think is where some of the hate of others comes from, long afternoons with one's face in the mud etc. also i hated ruggerbuggers at college, and i'm sure international players (england in particular) are no better, but when played at the top flight rugby is a marvy game to watch.

[xx] = william webb ellis, mark.

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 13:33 (twenty years ago) link

the dirty big cheater

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 13:36 (twenty years ago) link

I think Carsmile is otm. I did play from aged 9 to age 12 for the local team here who were tiny and crap, and it was always a fun experience, I suspect because it wasn't the focal point and main thing in the area unlike at school where we actually were summoned to the gym at various points during the day to cheer the team off to their matches. Honestly!

The local team was great because we were so crap that you'd score one try and all the parents watching would go absolutely mad. I remember playing one absolute stormer one day and getting clotheslined and punched and things cos I was running by so many people. Afterwards some dude told me to try out for the district team or something but I never did. I was 11 or so and I knew it was a flash in the pan brilliant performance. I never got stuck in enough to be really good at sport.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 13:42 (twenty years ago) link

I played it, wasn't bad at it at all (despite getting outrageously sent off) but I just never got into it, I prefer RL if anything. Then I went to college and encountered the rugby teams there, and have hated it ever since (I reckon this'll be the reasion for most dislike of it tbh)

chris (chris), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 13:53 (twenty years ago) link

I had to play rugby in school which was no fun when you're one of the 2 smallest people in your year. It put me off the game for a long time but now it's one the few sports I'll happily watch. As long as I can drink beer at the same time.

robster (robster), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 13:55 (twenty years ago) link

Rugby is a cheats game? Webb Ellis should have been soundly thrashed rather than have a frigging World Cup trophy named after him. Bloody eggchasers. Lest anyone think this is prole snobbery, I also have difficulty with Rugby League. They are all apostates.

Dave B (daveb), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 14:21 (twenty years ago) link

Webb-Ellis is worse than Pol Pot and Hitler combined.

Mikey, Tuesday, 7 October 2003 14:57 (twenty years ago) link

my sister is on the second best rugby team for women in canada.

anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 14:58 (twenty years ago) link

if you lived in dunedin, you'd understand rugby hate. trust me.

I will say that the random bunch of drunk rugby louts I ran into there didn't mind me and were chatty, but they probably thought I was fairly harmless, as opposed to Lady Lurex, who they rightly fear and are shamed by, for they are not as cool as she.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 15:29 (twenty years ago) link

I played at #8, always quite enjoyed it. Course, I'm from Cornwall, so didn't really have a lot of choice in the matter.

Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 15:29 (twenty years ago) link

I played on the wing, I was the original Jonah Lomu, only a lot slower, and not quite as fierce.

chris (chris), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 15:35 (twenty years ago) link

I played fly-half, which was because some of my football skills transferred. Not many, to be honest.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 16:54 (twenty years ago) link

My father was a former Welsh international player. Rugby was like a religion in our household.

I have always had a weakness for Number 8s.

C J (C J), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 17:28 (twenty years ago) link

I was out-half, I also remember one day being 12 and getting asked to play in the under 9s match. It may be the only time in my life I have felt physically strong. Along with a few fights in primary school.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 20:32 (twenty years ago) link

I don't understand the assertion that it's not dangerous. Seems to account for a fair number of cases in the spinal injury hospitals here.

cuspidorian (cuspidorian), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 05:04 (twenty years ago) link

I played on Sunday - first time this year! I am now a sedate full-back, although have played second row, both flanks, wing and centre in my time.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 06:21 (twenty years ago) link

Look at their ears! They are mangled = rugby is an abomination.

Sorry. I am completely irrational on this one. It offends me.

Dave B (daveb), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 07:29 (twenty years ago) link

I played hooker. If you have met me you will know that this is proof that the coach was a sadistic maniac.

Sam (chirombo), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 07:46 (twenty years ago) link

You're a bit tall for hooker, aren't you Sam?

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 15:02 (twenty years ago) link

You're a bit tall for hooker, aren't you Sam? I'm exactly the wrong body type really - tall and thinnish. Not *quite* enough bulk for the forwards and not compact and balanced enough for the backs. I've played for 20-odd years though on and off!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 15:09 (twenty years ago) link

five years pass...

lions doing so well...would make the weekend if they can win against this grim dour s african side

Local Garda, Saturday, 27 June 2009 13:49 (fourteen years ago) link

right on. the wallabies who represent australia did a ok too!

wilter, Saturday, 27 June 2009 14:06 (fourteen years ago) link

that's knocked the wind out of my sails

Local Garda, Saturday, 27 June 2009 15:05 (fourteen years ago) link

yes, mine too. and o'garas x1000. couldn't tackle steyn into touch on the try and then couldn't leave du preez alone in the air. team game and all but shit he let the whole touring party down.

whatever, Saturday, 27 June 2009 15:11 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah what in the name of jesus was rog doing with that last play. the garyowen was stupid enough, then the foul. a draw would have been a good result considering they lost both centres and both props. if they didn't lose the two props I think they would have won.

i can't actually accept they've lost the first two tests, just feels so wrong, they were easily good enough to beat that fucking sa side and played far more attractive rugby.

Local Garda, Saturday, 27 June 2009 15:13 (fourteen years ago) link

also at fault i thought was mike phillips' box kick after every restart that came to the lions, just gave the boks the ball back - have another go chaps i'm sure we'll defend heartily.

with you on the fact that the series has gone, feels very unfair. i've felt though in both tests that captain-wise o'connell wasn't quite there. he played his usual solid game but the leadership x-factor wasn't there. a martin johnson would have read the riot act at restarts and made sure that no one was in a position to make a mistake like o'gara did.

oh well. still a fantastic game to watch. sadly the boks are 2-0 up despite being made to look pretty ordinary since half time last week.

whatever, Saturday, 27 June 2009 15:19 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah o'connell didn't play particularly well over the two games either. it's a bit of a catch 22 tho. for ireland before the grand slam everyone used to lambast bod's captaincy and say o'connell was the true leader. now after this season most people say the reverse.

I agree about the box kicks actually, I think in general they kicked too much in the second half, nerves I guess.

Local Garda, Saturday, 27 June 2009 15:27 (fourteen years ago) link

just remembered jones missed a penalty kick for touch with about 5 mins to go...

whatever, Saturday, 27 June 2009 15:41 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah that was dire. you've got to also blame mcgeechan a bit for getting the forwards so wrong in first test. man...need to just go have a beer and forget about it!

Local Garda, Saturday, 27 June 2009 15:43 (fourteen years ago) link

nice to get the win even against a weakened boks side. great performance by them, they should have won this series. that lions backline is unreal. why only every four years, should be every two!

Local Garda, Saturday, 4 July 2009 14:58 (fourteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

just found this to be a pretty dope photo...

http://images.smh.com.au/2010/04/08/1300337/ind_berrick-barnes-400x267.jpg

wilter, Friday, 9 April 2010 12:22 (fourteen years ago) link

but yuh, the QUEENSLAND! back combo of Genia AND WHT THE FKKKKK Cooper IS ACTUALLY PROOVING TO BE DEADLY kudos, LINK

wilter, Friday, 9 April 2010 12:24 (fourteen years ago) link

he's...kind of massive http://images.brisbanetimes.com.au/2009/09/01/707886/420genia-420x0.jpg

wilter, Friday, 9 April 2010 12:26 (fourteen years ago) link

and has the dopest/silkiest skillz

wilter, Friday, 9 April 2010 12:26 (fourteen years ago) link

and is wearing the ugliest uniform in the world.

estela, Friday, 9 April 2010 12:27 (fourteen years ago) link

bb-b-but it's for 'grip'. HEY E!

wilter, Friday, 9 April 2010 12:29 (fourteen years ago) link

but, yeah, you've gotta give it up 2 cooper for the break&enterz imo

wilter, Friday, 9 April 2010 12:30 (fourteen years ago) link

ka mate wilter!

estela, Friday, 9 April 2010 12:32 (fourteen years ago) link

"The QRU and ARU agreed that collectively we need to impose on Quade an action plan that he must now adhere to as part of his ongoing employment, and Quade has agreed to make that commitment.

wilter, Friday, 9 April 2010 12:34 (fourteen years ago) link

has he been to trial yet?

estela, Friday, 9 April 2010 12:48 (fourteen years ago) link

^LOL. Estela, I will give u mad QLD RUGBY UPDATES as juicy info is swung my way --- I can offer u no moar

wilter, Friday, 9 April 2010 12:59 (fourteen years ago) link

ehhh

wilter, Friday, 9 April 2010 13:03 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci-yoF2eg-A

Oh christ, I <3 the Cult

wilter, Friday, 9 April 2010 13:09 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

awww Reds lost :(

wilter, Saturday, 1 May 2010 12:00 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

that is some

fucking

punch

Britain, the 51sb State (darraghmac), Monday, 16 May 2011 18:05 (twelve years ago) link

god i know, totally crazy. can't stand ashton but credit to him for staying on his feet. bloke must have boxing experience.

i revived this thread to see if anyone cared about the heineken cup final this weekend. am heading to cardiff to see it with my brothers...should be a great day out.

Suggest Banter (Local Garda), Friday, 20 May 2011 10:39 (twelve years ago) link

This might be of interest to you:

http://www.cardiff.gov.uk/content.asp?nav=2870%2C4048%2C4195&parent_directory_id=2865&id=11236

nate woolls, Friday, 20 May 2011 11:05 (twelve years ago) link

I want to see Prince Harry's face now.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 November 2019 10:48 (four years ago) link

CryingJohnson.jpg

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 November 2019 10:48 (four years ago) link

LOL England falling apart.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 November 2019 10:49 (four years ago) link

Bookies across the home counties opening the champagne about now

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 November 2019 10:49 (four years ago) link

ahem

GET THAT RIGHT UP YE

Number None, Saturday, 2 November 2019 10:55 (four years ago) link

What an awesome and ideologically correct occurrence :D

imago, Saturday, 2 November 2019 10:58 (four years ago) link

I'm that happy right now I could jump over a dollhouse and then run all the way to the Princess Diana Memorial Fountain and lay a big steaming chod in it.

calzino, Saturday, 2 November 2019 11:02 (four years ago) link

Aussie rules RIP

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 2 November 2019 11:02 (four years ago) link

lol calz

Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 November 2019 11:05 (four years ago) link

Get it right up ye Grant 🖕🏻😂🖕🏻

— Ryan Connell (@RyanConnell84) November 2, 2019

calzino, Saturday, 2 November 2019 11:23 (four years ago) link

Sing it

https://www.twitter.com/BBCSport/status/1190384267362275330

imago, Saturday, 2 November 2019 11:37 (four years ago) link

To compound the misery for England rugby fans, Margaret Thatcher's still dead.

— David Whitley (@mrdavidwhitley) November 2, 2019

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 2 November 2019 11:37 (four years ago) link

Matt Dawson wouldn't include any South Africa players in his combined XV with England.

This is why: https://t.co/lgWkS94zID#bbcrugby #RWC2019 #RWCFinal pic.twitter.com/P90vur6yXe

— BBC Sport (@BBCSport) November 1, 2019

imago, Saturday, 2 November 2019 11:37 (four years ago) link

Replies to that tweet dominated by gloating Welshmen. You llove to see it.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 November 2019 11:50 (four years ago) link

IMAGINE HOW FUMING THE CONSERVATIVES ARE WATCHING BLACK SOUTH AFRICANS SCORING TRIES FOR FUN AGAINST THEIR TEAM WHEN THEY WERE ALL CAMPAIGNING TO GET MANDELA HUNG IN THE 80S HAHAHAHAAHA YEEEERRRRRSSSSS pic.twitter.com/BwSc6JbXmP

— NEO (@MULLET_FAN_NEO) November 2, 2019

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 2 November 2019 12:32 (four years ago) link

Congrats Wales, can't have been easy to throw the semi-final but the right decision in the end

Camille Paglia is on my partner's NextDoor (Bananaman Begins), Saturday, 2 November 2019 21:43 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Shit news. Fuck cancer

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/50395820

groovypanda, Thursday, 21 November 2019 07:34 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

Really need France to do England today to make life a smidgen more bearable.

(includes digression on farting) (Tom D.), Sunday, 2 February 2020 13:15 (four years ago) link

In the other code of rugby I just noticed last night that the Catalan Dragons have signed Israel Folau. Stay classy lads.

calzino, Sunday, 2 February 2020 13:29 (four years ago) link

Fine and dandy so far.

(includes digression on farting) (Tom D.), Sunday, 2 February 2020 15:54 (four years ago) link

Hopefully France can keep it going for the 2nd half

Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Sunday, 2 February 2020 15:56 (four years ago) link

Can see England coming back strong but fingers crossed.

(includes digression on farting) (Tom D.), Sunday, 2 February 2020 15:58 (four years ago) link

Get it right up ye, Boris Johnson.

(includes digression on farting) (Tom D.), Sunday, 2 February 2020 16:57 (four years ago) link

And Prince William or whoever the rugby one is

(includes digression on farting) (Tom D.), Sunday, 2 February 2020 16:58 (four years ago) link

In the other code of rugby I just noticed last night that the Catalan Dragons have signed Israel Folau. Stay classy lads.

And in top trolling, Wigan have announced that their home game against Catalan will be Pride Day with players wearing rainbow socks and laces

groovypanda, Sunday, 2 February 2020 17:01 (four years ago) link

Nice one.

(includes digression on farting) (Tom D.), Sunday, 2 February 2020 17:21 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Explosive rugby in the first half there

Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Saturday, 22 February 2020 17:36 (four years ago) link

ffs Ireland, give us a try at least.

Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Sunday, 23 February 2020 16:12 (four years ago) link

... yasssss, now three more.

Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Sunday, 23 February 2020 16:13 (four years ago) link

nine months pass...

I've little interest in Rugby or in any team-sport but amazon prime pushed this documentary to my recommended list (I guess because they are pushing rugby more generally ahead of the 7 nations cup) and it is fascinating and infuriating. Incredible stats like: 20-25% of professional rugby players come from the pacific islands (fiji, Tonga, Samoa - combined population of 1.5m people) ; pacific island players were getting paid circa £80 per game while western players were getting payed upwards of £20,000 per game and that PI players were busking on the streets while on tour in Europe to earn cash. Some really horribly sad stories in here of the exploitation of PI players.

http://www.oceansapartfilm.com/

Some spin-off docs as well, you'll have to search for on amazon

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Castaway-Romania-Tongan-national-foodbanks/dp/B08NRDHJFL/ref=pd_ys_iyr3

about a PI player who ended up on contract in Romania but got kidney failure and coudn't return to Tonga because they don't have any dialysis machines there. He's currently living on benefits in Romania.

and

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Caucau-Greatest-Mystery-Rupeni-Caucaunibuca/dp/B08NK3L9PS/ref=pd_ys_iyr2

about another player who became lost in the system and is now penniless in Tonga.

Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Monday, 30 November 2020 04:12 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

First win at Twickenham in 38 years. Get it right up ye's!

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Saturday, 6 February 2021 18:35 (three years ago) link

Enjoyed that yesterday. Congrats Tom

We were absolutely awful today and would never have won if Ireland hadn't been down to 14

groovypanda, Sunday, 7 February 2021 18:09 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

First win at Twickenham in, er, 2 years. Get it right up ye's all the same!

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Saturday, 4 February 2023 18:30 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

France absolutely murdering England here.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Saturday, 11 March 2023 18:21 (one year ago) link

tragic

satori enabler (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 March 2023 19:00 (one year ago) link


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