Exile on Main St.

My local store has the vinyl for $32. Only the silly version with the book and such is $150.

When Mick Jagger says "It's really not that expensive", you know it is.

Oh awesome... I had checked Amazon earlier and they only had the CD and the super deluxe vinyl thing, but looks like they have the vinyl only now. Will probably but this now.

This has never been one of the easier Stones albums to find cheap on used vinyl in good condition, for some reason.

Yeah I picked up a copy a few years back, but it sounds pretty bad in places.

I'd love to hear a remixed version of this album. Remixed as in more obvious instrument separation, less noise and Jagger's voice much louder.

I know Mick Jagger would too.

No longer true. From David Gates, "Torn and Frayed in the South of France" in the current issue of Rolling Stone:

"Back in 2003, Jagger said he'd love to remix Exile, 'not just because of the vocals, but because generally I think it sounds lousy.' Today he just seems resigned. 'I was right there in the room, so I'm just as much to blame for it as anyone else. If you want to hear the vocals louder, then I should stick it all up on iTunes so you can mix it yourself.'"

lol

I love Jagger interviews

the vocal mix is perfect on Exile, this is madness.

For those who wonder about compression and the like, this proved interesting. All the shots are from the 2:00 mark, where the song gets trippy and quieter.

A needledrop of the original vinyl:
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_9fcPb-VtKkc/S_IK9pHmAYI/AAAAAAAAASg/0v5rUTvTlJo/s720/Rocks%20Off%2072.jpg

The 1994 Remaster:
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_9fcPb-VtKkc/S_IK99na_nI/AAAAAAAAASk/GKO_TbEfab8/s720/Rocks%20Off%2094.jpg

The 2010 Remaster:
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_9fcPb-VtKkc/S_IK9wQeRzI/AAAAAAAAASo/Jsyk84ibua0/s720/Rocks%20Off%2010.jpg

The latest version isn't quite brickwalled (it doesn't clip or plateau), but definitely missing some of the dynamism of the prior remaster. I don't hear the differences through speakers - this remaster actually seems clearer in many points - but I think headphones might be a different story.

The idea of mixing the vocals behind in the mix is always a bad one. After all, the vocalist carries the main tune, and the main tune is the most important element of the music. Plus being low makes him scream and screaming vocals are also always a bad idea.

Whispering Jay Hawkins..

The idea of mixing the vocals behind in the mix is always a bad one.

Unless it's Bobby Gillespie.

Even Bobby Gillespie sounds better a bit higher in the sound.

He's high enough, I thangyew....

new tracks sounding pretty awesome so far!

Plus being low makes him scream and screaming vocals are also always a bad idea.

this isn't even remotely true unless you're talking about mixing live sound

cause see when the singer is tracking, he's tracking to an unmixed track; where he's put in the mix is an after-the-recording-session decision

maybe geir is a stickler for studio headphone mixes?

who knows, would like to live in your world for like 20 minutes geir

might look something like this
http://www.scene-stealers.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/being-john-malkovich-001-1.jpg

"following the river" pretty much blows :/

http://old.trmw.org/uploads/2005/12/ymo.jpg

(xpost) Sorry, wrong thread...

Pretty close, though.

"would love to hear impressions of anyone who has the original vinyl and how that sounds vs. the new 180gram vinyl"

me too

would like to see some soundwave comparisons too

listening to rocks off....at the very beginning, i hear a weird organ sounding part! i don't think i've heard that before

That second disc is some weak shit. Can't imagine wasting my time listening to it again. I'll take the boots of murky outtakes over these crisp, clear outfakes.

^yeah they aren't great, but I like Keith's mumbling through "Soul Survivor"

I'm glad I heard the whole thing once. And yeah, Keith's "Soul Survivor" was at least interesting.

thank god they didn't use that alt take of "loving cup" though...that version is so slow and doesn't have the greatest drum fill ever

^^This.

was listening to this on vinyl yesterday -- SIDE 2! Best side.

No doubt about it. I think it was polled.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/23/arts/music/23stones.html?hp

oy vey....

That was one of those "OK then" stories.

"exile" remastered sounds great. GREAT. "Torn And Frayed" especially sounds like layers of grit have been lovingly polished off the pedal steel and drums. Gorgeous. Can't give the tracks with new Mick vocals more than a couple more listens - they're pretty inconsequential - but "So Divine" and the Keef version of "Soul Survivor" rule.

only listened to the re-ish in the car so far, which undoubtedly comprises my opinion... this cd SOUNDS loud (i.e. "my ears hurt") but doesn't FEEL loud (i.e. "that riff trembles my ribcage"). my beef is mainly w/the vocals, i think. probably need to give it a go in the house.

i listened to the new remaster and a rip of original vinyl pressing back to back. i'm decidedly NOT a vinyl purist but the rip sounds way better. sorry dudes, try again. or don't.

I love the way the og vinyl press sounds. I don't feel like I need a new remaster but I ~REALLY~ want those bonus tracks.

just download them. mick jagger does not need your money.

*whistling suspiciously*

This has never been one of the easier Stones albums to find cheap on used vinyl in good condition, for some reason.

― Mark, Monday, May 17, 2010 5:37 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark

LOL - I bought this album on vinyl, used, for $0.99 about 5 years ago. I have no idea why it was so cheap, but I just figured there were used copies of this album everywhere. Apparently I was just lucky.

Yeah I expected to pay a solid $15 or so bcz people always say that and I got it in a lot of 5 other albums for $7!

If (like me) you think the mid-90s Virgin Records edition sounds fantastic and don't want a new remaster of the original disc, Target is selling a CD of just the new tracks for, I think, $9.99.

That's the one I bought; I burned the bonus tracks on an extra CD.

Damn, my T@rget didn't have ANY versions of it when I checked today.

would love to hear impressions of anyone who has the original vinyl and how that sounds vs. the new 180gram vinyl

i've got the orig. vinyl. anybody want to send me the new pressing in the interests of science?

Amusing bit in that documentary about the making of the album when Don Was says that at the time the Stones were recording the album, Coppola was making "Apocalypse Now"... errrrrr, I think not, Don

It's the number one selling album in the UK apparently: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment_and_arts/10144577.stm

Amusing bit in that documentary about the making of the album when Don Was says that at the time the Stones were recording the album, Coppola was making "Apocalypse Now"... errrrrr, I think not, Don

― Wenlock & Mandelson (Tom D.), Monday, May 24, 2010 7:24 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark

it's true! and in the middle of the recording sessions, kennedy was killed! very memorable era IMO.

Keef sounds great on that other version of "Soul Survivor," but thank goodness he didn't write lyrics for whole albums.