Instant Vintage is a fucking classic. I don't like dude's recent stuff.
― rennavate, Saturday, 15 May 2010 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link
"Still Ray" is one the most blissful songs there is imo
― The Reverend, Sunday, 16 May 2010 06:47 (thirteen years ago) link
^^I have recently come to adore this trak
― wilter, Sunday, 16 May 2010 06:53 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ooz85nVYfiU
YES YES YES YES
― The Reverend, Sunday, 16 May 2010 07:05 (thirteen years ago) link
<3<3
― wilter, Sunday, 16 May 2010 07:12 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm coming home to youwear something seethrough
so iiii can seeee your heeaaart
― The Reverend, Sunday, 16 May 2010 07:14 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXHs0t5VQM4
Just gonna call a spade a spade here. Terrible song, terrible video, and Raphael Saadiq sounding like the Strokes in 2011 is NAGL as it comes.
― flutes & fucking mexican death horns (The Reverend), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link
Would rather listen to the Fat/Beach Boys' "Wipeout."
― Andy K, Thursday, 20 January 2011 13:38 (thirteen years ago) link
otm!
― knits you a baby (The Reverend), Friday, 21 January 2011 02:54 (thirteen years ago) link
this is really terriblr
― *gets the power* (deej), Friday, 21 January 2011 04:10 (thirteen years ago) link
As usual, I kind of dig things that people on ILM hate.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 21 January 2011 04:22 (thirteen years ago) link
its the most generic pastiche of 50s rock cliches ever what is there possible to like abt it
― *gets the power* (deej), Friday, 21 January 2011 04:26 (thirteen years ago) link
this shit is bankrupt as fuck
― knits you a baby (The Reverend), Friday, 21 January 2011 04:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Saadiq was good when he was doing his "gospedelic" thing. This is just bad.
― rihanna rennavated my dick (rennavate), Friday, 21 January 2011 04:41 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh come on you big babies. That's a good song. There's so much crappy music out there, why do you have to tool on Raphael? He's real good goddamnit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
its the most generic pastiche of 50s rock
There isn't a single 50s thing about that song dawg.
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 21 January 2011 04:47 (thirteen years ago) link
he is really good, which is why I expect better of him than this.
― knits you a baby (The Reverend), Friday, 21 January 2011 04:55 (thirteen years ago) link
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:47 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
ok early 60s??
― *gets the power* (deej), Friday, 21 January 2011 05:01 (thirteen years ago) link
sorry i dont remember the exact recording dates for the surfaris
Instant Vintage is a classic. I have no interest to hear anything else from Saadiq, as talented as he is. It's just not an aesthetic I have any interest in.
― rihanna rennavated my dick (rennavate), Friday, 21 January 2011 05:09 (thirteen years ago) link
the hate is way OTT in this thread. I put the song on expecting it to be next level bad and it's not at all!
don't really get the Strokes compare, Raphael is clearly trying to pay homage to early surf-tinged rock 'n roll, not the 00s replication of it. other than the vocal production, there are too many sonic details he gets right for it to be a copy of a copy. The main criticism I can give is that he took the stock sound and didn't do anything particularly new or interesting with it, more or less just filled in a template.
honestly this isn't something I'd spin a lot but I can say I "liked" it for sure. it's pleasant to my ear, not a standout but pleasing nonetheless.
― i love tampon spaceship (San Te), Friday, 21 January 2011 06:24 (thirteen years ago) link
I mean it really isn't much different than what he did on The Way I See It, going for retro but he just did it with a different subgenre.
― i love tampon spaceship (San Te), Friday, 21 January 2011 06:26 (thirteen years ago) link
i dont like 'the way i see it' either for the same reason so *shrug*
― *gets the power* (deej), Friday, 21 January 2011 06:29 (thirteen years ago) link
whats the pt of becoming a trad 60s revivalist
Um, because it's a genre in and of itself just like anything else?
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 21 January 2011 06:30 (thirteen years ago) link
He may have gone a little overboard with the throwback suits and big black glasses, but there's definitely some merit in recreating a sound and doing it well.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 21 January 2011 06:31 (thirteen years ago) link
i guess, if u want to play a lot of weddings
― *gets the power* (deej), Friday, 21 January 2011 06:32 (thirteen years ago) link
but like, you're a talented songwriter! make something original! u can reference the past w/out mimicry
xpost guess nobody bothered to tell the neo-soul movement then
― i love tampon spaceship (San Te), Friday, 21 January 2011 06:33 (thirteen years ago) link
uhm didn't you love Cee-Lo's "Fuck You"?
the best neo soul isnt blind mimicry! there is no record in R&B history that sounds like voodoo, its more a spiritual inspiration than anything, a recognition & acknowledgement of tradition & an appreciation of 'grown folks' aesthetics
'fuck you' is a more likeable song
― *gets the power* (deej), Friday, 21 January 2011 06:40 (thirteen years ago) link
it also feels massively irreverent
The Strokes thing came up cause I was trying to figure out exactly what his reference points were then realized it didn't matter because the end result ended up at the Strokes (and not good Strokes). Like obviously that's not where he was going for at all, but that's where he ended up.
― knits you a baby (The Reverend), Friday, 21 January 2011 10:39 (thirteen years ago) link
sounds like the same problem as the last album (except this time its surf rock). he gets all the period details right, but the songwriting is just bloodless.
instant vintage was cool but saddiq solo has never really done it for me imo. much preferred the tonies to anything hes done since. house of music did 'retro' so much better.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 21 January 2011 11:31 (thirteen years ago) link
Has anyone heard the album he did between Instant Vintage and The Way I See It? Pretty much never seen anyone talk about it ever. I haven't heard it either fwiw.
― knits you a baby (The Reverend), Friday, 21 January 2011 11:34 (thirteen years ago) link
idk I think the songwriting on The Way I See It was impeccable. this new song is less impressive because it's a stock melody/chord progression, but it goes into 'likable' for me because he sings it with panache. not that this is a song that I'll ever play a lot but "terrible" it ain't, to my ears.
― i love tampon spaceship (San Te), Friday, 21 January 2011 12:13 (thirteen years ago) link
of course its not terrible. impeccable seems the right word. it just doesnt feel like more than a slightly soulless, albeit fun and technically faultless exercise in period recreation.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 21 January 2011 12:19 (thirteen years ago) link
as far as period recreation I do much prefer the second Amy Winehouse album. anybody who begins a song with "what kind of fuckery is this?" is a winner in my book.
― i love tampon spaceship (San Te), Friday, 21 January 2011 12:20 (thirteen years ago) link
otm. even though i like 'way i see it', i was really hoping he would move back towards modern r&b (or some combination with the live instruments/motown sound thing) though.
― bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Friday, 21 January 2011 14:55 (thirteen years ago) link
― i love tampon spaceship (San Te), Friday, January 21, 2011 6:20 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
the thing w/ the retro details on that album is that they all seem to serve her personalitywhich isnt the case here
― *gets the power* (deej), Friday, 21 January 2011 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah. Saadiq has a personality (although obviously not as outsized as Winehouse's), but you'd never know it from his recent material.
― knits you a baby (The Reverend), Friday, 21 January 2011 15:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Ok. I'm listening to As Ray Ray now and so far it is awesome and shits all over the snoozy retro bullshit he's doing now. Real sunny LA funk vibe like he spent the whole time kickin it with DJ Quik.
― knits you a baby (The Reverend), Friday, 21 January 2011 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKLur3mWKgI
― knits you a baby (The Reverend), Friday, 21 January 2011 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link
It's fun as opposed to "fun". Way less on a neo-soul tip than Instant Vintage too.
And it has style that is all Raphael's and not borrowed from a bunch of old/dead peeps.
― knits you a baby (The Reverend), Friday, 21 January 2011 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link
Ok, how the hell did this album slip completely under the radar?
― knits you a baby (The Reverend), Friday, 21 January 2011 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link
So "Rifle Love" and the song where he does the Curtis Mayfield impression are corny (maybe endearingly so?), but I've never cared for his Smokey impersonation either. Other than that, this album is banging.
― knits you a baby (The Reverend), Friday, 21 January 2011 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link
ive got that one -- copped from emusic iirc when i was a member. good 1
― *gets the power* (deej), Friday, 21 January 2011 17:54 (thirteen years ago) link
Teedra's on a couple Ray Ray tunes.
― Andy K, Friday, 21 January 2011 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link
instant vintage is still > as ray ray... what a shitty title
― rihanna rennavated my dick (rennavate), Friday, 21 January 2011 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link