deej, no one needs to explain why "paper planes" is good, just as you don'tneed to defend not liking "paper planes." But to call her out for being amusical and derivative just because you don't like what she adds to the clash sample is bullshit because she adds just as much to the hook (a beat, new sing-verses, a chorus) as most rappers and dancehall artist add to the hooks they bite. and you're still acting like "paper planes" is the only track she dropped, as if you admitting the "straight to hell" sample is the best part of that song explains why people raved about the album she made before it.
I realize I'm repeating myself to death here but hey it's ILM.
― da croupier, Thursday, 13 May 2010 13:48 (thirteen years ago) link
that should be "sing-song verses"
― da croupier, Thursday, 13 May 2010 13:49 (thirteen years ago) link
i like "paper planes" despite some clunky verses because it's catchy, fun, and it works good behind both the pineapple express trailer and a video of MIA working a falafel truck (which was especially cool to see on a big screen in times square). if you don't enjoy it, fine, but don't tell me she sucks BECAUSE she just dropped rhymes over a piece of a great song and stuck a beat on it! people have been making great music that way for decades.
― da croupier, Thursday, 13 May 2010 13:56 (thirteen years ago) link
haha looking over last night's rants i realize that my last few posts are even more redundant than i realized. sorry!
― da croupier, Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:03 (thirteen years ago) link
in the interest of finding something new to talk about, here's a video by MIA's man's band, the Exit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxT7wSC3520
― da croupier, Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:10 (thirteen years ago) link
here's one where he sings rather than just stares meaningfully at the camera
http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=VUJp_jeKMy8
― da croupier, Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:11 (thirteen years ago) link
having reread the entire last week of this argument i think this is the most otm thing anyone posted:
tipsy and deej are both kinda right wrt "paper planes" i think - it comes off like m.i.a. wanted to tie the third-world-power tropes into more conventional (and recognisable) gangsta hustling ones. obviously she doesn't do this particularly well and she hasn't thought much about why they should be linked beyond a vague "poor people...from there...poor people...here as well" shallow insight, but that's m.i.a. for ya.
it is a fool's errand at best to try to figure out why "people" like paper planes (tho if i had a gun to my head i'd actually agree with adam bruneau--whenever i've heard this song in a club it seems like people grab onto the chorus and the sound efx in partic) but i have no idea what is "challenging" about saying that m.i.a. is a weak vocalist with a very limited persona whose voice and on-record presentation don't really bring much to the table.
paper planes is a catchy tune no doubt but i think her limitations as a performer and the issues with whatever she's trying to get across lyrically also make it a v. problematic one.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 13 May 2010 14:24 (thirteen years ago) link
pull up the people is awesome
― plax (ico), Thursday, 13 May 2010 22:33 (thirteen years ago) link
i have no idea what is "challenging" about saying that m.i.a. is a weak vocalist with a very limited persona whose voice and on-record presentation don't really bring much to the table.― call all destroyer
― call all destroyer
― contenderizer, Thursday, 13 May 2010 23:04 (thirteen years ago) link
and pull up the people is awesome
― contenderizer, Thursday, 13 May 2010 23:05 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't understand why it is important for MIA to have a complex persona to be entertaining when it isn't a requirement for anyone else.
― Have a slice of wine! (HI DERE), Friday, 14 May 2010 03:31 (thirteen years ago) link
i dunno there are lost of 1-dimensional personas i find offputting dan ... this isnt a double standard. i.e. Drake/Rick Ross/etc etc (& i mean i like some rick ross songs but i certainly dont think hes deserving of like critical rap nerd hosannas either)
― Gifted Unlimited Display Names Universal (deej), Friday, 14 May 2010 04:21 (thirteen years ago) link
*lots
― Gifted Unlimited Display Names Universal (deej), Friday, 14 May 2010 04:23 (thirteen years ago) link
i think m.i.a.'s got a great voice, and more often than not it totally rescues her songs from their shallowness
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 14 May 2010 08:16 (thirteen years ago) link
'My BLAOW BLAOW don't want BLAOW you got CLICK, CHA-CHING!'
― kkvgz, Tuesday, May 11, 2010 3:27 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
maybe it's a sheryl crow reference???
― you better check that sausage before you put it in the rofl (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, May 11, 2010 3:48 PM Bookmark
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 14 May 2010 14:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, M.I.A. does have a great voice, I agree lex, but in this entire thread, I wish we could combine contenderizer's posts with tipsy mothra's, and then there would be pretty much no need to argue any more.
― Lostandfound, Saturday, 15 May 2010 04:37 (thirteen years ago) link
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd120/hipsterrunoff/photographs/hro/1cd21324.jpg
― ksh, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 22:01 (thirteen years ago) link
ha
― The Reverend, Thursday, 20 May 2010 04:37 (thirteen years ago) link
won't uploaders just call it Maya?
― micarl, Thursday, 20 May 2010 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link
so obvious when u think about it
egg all over carles's face
― long time listener, first time balla (history mayne), Thursday, 20 May 2010 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link
that's not egg
― Have a slice of wine! (HI DERE), Thursday, 20 May 2010 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link
this is the next search result after Y!Finance, lol
/y/ - Yaoiy/ is 4chan's imageboard for posting yaoi hentai images.boards.4chan.org/y/
― a rush of blood to my member (Future_Perfect), Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link
should've named the album MA/Y/AOI
― a rush of blood to my member (Future_Perfect), Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:48 (thirteen years ago) link
AOI: POLEMIX
― some dude, Thursday, 20 May 2010 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link
Just wanted to jump in here to say that MIA is one annoying, self-important person. Thank you.
― Vanilla Douche (res), Friday, 21 May 2010 00:47 (thirteen years ago) link
did she really say "i could afford to have you killed now" ?
― kumar the bavarian, Friday, 21 May 2010 03:01 (thirteen years ago) link
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/05/mia.html
the bit about her father is iiiiinteresting
― long time listener, first time balla (history mayne), Thursday, 27 May 2010 09:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Unity holds no allure for Maya — she thrives on conflict, real or imagined. “I kind of want to be an outsider,” she said, eating a truffle-flavored French fry.
...is the money line, I think.
― Stevie T, Thursday, 27 May 2010 09:46 (thirteen years ago) link
haha yeah i just picked that out too. the original piece is fantastically written.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 27 May 2010 10:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Just heard XXXO for the first time. Ropey as fuck. Having heard three new songs now I'm not optimistic about the new album at all. Feels like MIA's been told she's an Important Artist so often she's lost sight of what made her good in the first place.
― The Men Who Stare At Goatse (Matt DC), Thursday, 27 May 2010 11:18 (thirteen years ago) link
A song with even a half-decent beat would be nice for starters.
― The Men Who Stare At Goatse (Matt DC), Thursday, 27 May 2010 11:19 (thirteen years ago) link
oh, comeback
http://twitter.com/_M_I_A_/status/14841407386
― English: The Money Woman (history mayne), Thursday, 27 May 2010 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link
who?
― i don't care if big daddy kane signed your mommas tits (The Reverend), Thursday, 27 May 2010 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link
MIKE JAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWNS
new york times wrote an article saying mia was a bit of a ninny; mia responds by posting the journo's contact deets
― English: The Money Woman (history mayne), Thursday, 27 May 2010 15:57 (thirteen years ago) link
that's the journalist's number and not her own?
― Image: electrostimulation applied on a penis (HI DERE), Thursday, 27 May 2010 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link
call and find out!
― English: The Money Woman (history mayne), Thursday, 27 May 2010 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, what?
― i don't care if big daddy kane signed your mommas tits (The Reverend), Thursday, 27 May 2010 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link
I just tried. It's a full mailbox under the journalist's name. That's a proper dick move.
― The Men Who Stare At Goatse (Matt DC), Thursday, 27 May 2010 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link
really doe
― i don't care if big daddy kane signed your mommas tits (The Reverend), Thursday, 27 May 2010 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link
woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow
― Image: electrostimulation applied on a penis (HI DERE), Thursday, 27 May 2010 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Actually I think the journalist is being a bit of a dick for having a go at MIA for - shock horror - moving to a neighbourhood full of rich white people like she's the only non-white pop star ever to have done that. And the bit about her having the temerity not to have a water birth is lame.
The bit about the politics is superb.
― The Men Who Stare At Goatse (Matt DC), Thursday, 27 May 2010 16:05 (thirteen years ago) link
We should campaign for a Suggest Ban button on Twitter.
wow. classy
― dmr, Thursday, 27 May 2010 16:07 (thirteen years ago) link
looool
if i was lynn hirschberg i'd just be like, told ya she was a dick.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 27 May 2010 16:07 (thirteen years ago) link
An MIA/Wiley Twitter beef would honestly be the best thing of all time.
― The Men Who Stare At Goatse (Matt DC), Thursday, 27 May 2010 16:09 (thirteen years ago) link
hirschberg's pretty infamous for these kinds of takedowns by now right? seems like celebs would avoid her like the plague.
― tylerw, Thursday, 27 May 2010 16:09 (thirteen years ago) link
wtf is up with that twitter? isnt she like 35?
― kumar the bavarian, Thursday, 27 May 2010 16:09 (thirteen years ago) link
has mia really been called out that much for her idiocy? most of the media reaction has been unthinking "ooh controversial" which is exactly what she wants, i doubt she's used to someone cutting through the BS. i know hirschberg did a takedown of courtney love, who else?
xp yeah early 30s i think
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 27 May 2010 16:11 (thirteen years ago) link
otm. she did that David O. Russell piece right? or wait, no, that was Sharon Waxman.
― dmr, Thursday, 27 May 2010 16:12 (thirteen years ago) link