does tom petty have any redeeming qualities?

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the Tory hires his idea of a Liberal to form a coalition government, ignorant of the fact that hanging out with George Harrison and Bob Dylan tends to contaminate one’s ideas of progress

it's like you knew

coalition to me (acoleuthic), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 16:51 (thirteen years ago) link

"Change Of Heart" is a deeper cut that I think is pretty great.

_▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link

"Change Of Heart" is a deeper cut that I think is pretty great.

OTM. Riff is one of the first things I learned to play when I was discovering the magic of power chords.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah there's something that hits my heart about the weird way the chorus resolves after the "there's been a cha-ye-ay-ye-aynge" to the "there's been a change of heart"

you better check that sausage before you put it in the rofl (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Another great obscure Tom Petty song, No Second Thoughts from You're Gonna Get It. That could be a hit today.

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link

I was really into the dylan/heartbreakers song "band of the hand" when I was a kid, kind of afraid to listen to it now, it won't live up

stop draggin my heart around > don't come around here

Brio, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link

band of the hand is def. one of the best 80s Dylan tracks! is it even available on CD?

tylerw, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 18:01 (thirteen years ago) link

no idea - just remember a big ragged chorus and something about Hell

Brio, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link

"it's hellllltime, man," i think is what they're singing.

tylerw, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Anyway speaking of synths

http://www.emusic.com/features/spotlight/2010_201005-essay-melancholy-synth.html

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link

band of the hand is def. one of the best 80s Dylan tracks! is it even available on CD?

Nope. A one-off, produced by Petty, recorded in Australia.

cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 18:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Band Of The Hand...the Dylanettes sure go to town on that one. So many killer lyrics too. I love the line "so erotic, so unpatriotic, so wrapped up in the American flag."

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, it's a cool song ... weird that Dylan and the Heartbreakers never really made a proper album together, even though they toured all over the world for a year or two.

tylerw, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Fwiw, it also leads off 1986's Band Of The Hand soundtrack -- worth picking up if you see it cheap, since it also has five songs by eternally underrated '80s Pennsylvania new wave metal band the Reds.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 18:23 (thirteen years ago) link

and there's a CD of that soundtrack? i always thought it was just on tape/LP ...

tylerw, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 18:24 (thirteen years ago) link

No idea. I just have it on cassette myself.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 18:25 (thirteen years ago) link

from wiki: The song was released on the soundtrack album, Band of the Hand (MCA-6167, 1986) and also as both a 45 rpm 7” single (MCA-52811, 1986) and as 12” single (MCA-23633, 1986)
also, apparently stevie nicks is singing backup on it! you learn something every day.

tylerw, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 18:31 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JLoO1S3-QE

I like this a log: drunken caterwauling!

cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 18:31 (thirteen years ago) link

I like this log.

Felix Frankfurter, Man Of Justice (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 18:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes.

cool and remote like dancing girls (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 18:36 (thirteen years ago) link

totally lives up! I like this a log too.

"Listen to me Mr. Pussyman
This might be your last night in a bed so soft"

Brio, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 18:56 (thirteen years ago) link

as far as his collaborations go, i like this one too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1fnyjLyqNc

women are a bunch of dudes (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Do you ever wake up @ 3 AM and you're like "I'm freeeeeeefaaaaaaalliiiinn"? O_O

ksh, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 20:33 (thirteen years ago) link

thoughts on mudcrutch? i thought it sounded pretty good on one listen; nice production.

hobbes, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 21:18 (thirteen years ago) link

sorta forgot about that one, but i should probably check it out. the original mudcrutch recordings on petty's box set are pretty sweet.

tylerw, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link

REFUGEE YALL

roxymuzak, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Don't do me like that, don't do me like that.

kelpolaris, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link

great use of petty music: "the waiting" in the simpsons episode where homer buys a gun

hobbes, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 18:42 (thirteen years ago) link

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiting is the haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaardeeeeeeessssssst paaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrt

kelpolaris, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 18:45 (thirteen years ago) link

don't think i realized how rapey "breakdown" really is until i threw on Greatest Hits for the first time in years last week

da croupier, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link

the version of "breakdown" from the live box is f'in sweeeeeet

hobbes, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 18:52 (thirteen years ago) link

REFUGEE YALL

― roxymuzak, Wednesday, May 12, 2010 11:13 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

refugee is the best song ever for intentionally bad singing along

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 18:53 (thirteen years ago) link

basically i just have to give Mudcrutch some mad rock band naming props...it's like...damn what a 70s rock band from the south name...it's almost too much

wishbone ash is kinda like that for me, like that name couldn't be more 70s longhair british dudes

you better check that sausage before you put it in the rofl (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link

what is a mudcrutch anyway?

da croupier, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

If we need a calendar date when the melancholy synth begins, it's March 13, 2001, the day Discovery, by Paris's Daft Punk, was released.

god fucking dammit people

liberté, égalité, fatalité, flawless victoré (crüt), Wednesday, 12 May 2010 19:30 (thirteen years ago) link

who said that? kanye?

who else besides petty and dylan rocked the long slender earring in the late 80s? billy idol? i vaguely recall a recurring character on diff'rent strokes

hobbes, Wednesday, 12 May 2010 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link

"American Girl" is a great song.

o. nate, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 02:06 (thirteen years ago) link

BBC4 has been showing that documentary.

4 HOURS!! blimey.

Saw about 20 mins of it, nothing wrong with the bit I saw, but still..

Mark G, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 08:10 (thirteen years ago) link

The documentary's good -- a perfect antidote for a hungover Sunday.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 11:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Was always interested in that, but never saw it. He was pretty dull on Saturday Night Live this past weekend though.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 12:18 (thirteen years ago) link

The documentary is worth sitting through just to get that hack Bill Flanagan looking very serious when he calls "The Last DJ" one of the most important albums of the decade or some such bullshit.

Actually, the doc is fascinating as unlikely proof that even an A-list b-lister like Petty can sustain a compelling four-hour narrative.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 13:00 (thirteen years ago) link

Ha, I've seen former Musician magazine editor Flanagan on CBS Sunday Morning talk pompously about the brilliance of solo releases of boomer artists.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 13:04 (thirteen years ago) link

bill flanagan is not a hack, his feelings about "the last dj" notwithstanding.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link

his U2 book cast such a spell on me that I gave the band the benefit of the doubt for many years; it's still a great read.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 16:34 (thirteen years ago) link

I think he's a great writer and a good critic - I love the U2 book, for example - but for the past x years he's been sucking on the VH1 teat so hard it hurts, which puts him more or less on par with Dave Marsh and leads him to such lame proclamations as his take on Petty (who I would not to be surprised to learn was IRL a close family friend).

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link

If we need a calendar date when the melancholy synth begins, it's March 13, 2001, the day Discovery, by Paris's Daft Punk, was released.

wtf!

you better check that sausage before you put it in the rofl (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean, Flanagan's all but contractually obligated to say nice things about Petty (as Marsh is re: Bruce, with whom Marsh does have close family ties; see also: Marsh's "Album of the Year" sticker affixed to the last Alejandro Escovedo album - no conflict there!).

That said, I like Petty well enough. His band is great, esp. the Blue Stingrays surf disc Mike Campbell put out a few years back.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Also, per the original thread title, I hear Petty travels only with the highest quality pot, so I'm sure some will view that as redeeming.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link

only if he's willing to share

Here is a tasty coconut. Sorry for my earlier harshness. (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link


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