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and off they go. So no chance of 10 now if he cant bowl them out tonight!

He did indeed.

lol i wuz wrong.

Given his luck Collingwood will come on to hold up an end and rob Jimmy of a 10 for.

Why the fuck cant they just use floodlights?

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Yeah lightening striking twice etc.

Danny V there trying to break Andersons hand.

hurrah for pubs and drinking and JIMMYYYYYYYY *belch*

Follow on enforced and NZ are 45-2

"Devon Malcolm took 9 wkts in a test match once, or did I imagine that!?!??!"

9-57 against South Africa at the Oval to square the series -- one of the great spells of out and out fast bowling I've seen. So great.

"Flintoff bat well? That would be a first."

All those innings against the Aussies in the Ashes over here. Unlike Bell, they were made when it actually counted.

Harmison bowled well in the ashes against Aus in England but i wouldnt have him back based on past glories. Flintoff is not and hasnt been for a few years good enough to bat at no6. He will get in as a bowler.

He has had injury problems for a while, etc. but if he gets his bowling on song he'll get the batting right as well -- and it would be good enough for no6.

holy shit what a six from KP. He just switched hands as Styrus bowled and hit a six left handed over long on. Amazing stuff.

Now Shah is hitting sixes. Fun Fun Fun.

The MCC will discuss the legality of Kevin Pietersen's remarkable switch-hitting strokes on Tuesday.

I was gonna start an ILC thread about this.

holy fucking jesus

PAUL COLLINGWOOD YOU UNSPORTING PRICK

New Zealand is calling this "Underarm II", lol.

yeah because graeme swann should have just fkn underarmed it gently towards the non-striker's end amirite

lol spirit of cricket and fair play lol

i'm no collingwood fan either dude, at least the right result was (somehow) achieved

Easy to apologise when it doesn't mean anything.

TS: The country that tried to killed Don Bradman with some leg side deliveries vs. The country that whinged because a lesser Chappell brother bowled it underarm that time.

Now I put it like that, I'm backing England on this one.

The great thing about the underarm incident, which nobody seems to have ever picked up upon, is that the ball was still bouncing, fairly slowly, when it reached the batsman. One big heave could have still done the trick (and shown up the Aussies for being gutless losers).

:D

The papers made a lot more of this than BBC commentary, which I suppose is to be expected. Apparently the Kiwis slammed the dressing room door in Collingwood's face when he went there after the match.

Colly's Folly

Utterly ridiculous

Louis where is your outrage?!!

That's some bullshit right there.

I'm outraged, if that helps!

It's crazy. They refused to come out and play and the game was forfeited. How can that be changed? A draw?? yes I know Pakistan probably would've have won it unless England had a remarkable comeback, but they refused to play. The laws of the game are they forfeit the match.
They could've won the game then made a complaint. But they didn't. It's a complete farce.
Who the fuck is running the ICC?

Jonathan Agnew made a good point in that article linked to above: if you're losing, just refuse to come out and play, and you'll get a draw.

Or at least that's the precedent the ICC is setting.

If this affected the series outcome they would never have changed it.

Yeah, don't like some umpire decisions and just refuse to play and that's cricket fucked.

Did the result of that one dayer were Sherwin Campbell was allowed to come back out to bat after being run out because of a collision with Brendon Julian stand?

No idea

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/F10569147?show=50

It's a fantastically relaxing game to watch.

The fielding arrangements seem to conform immaculately to the principles of Feng Shui.

Louis you seen this yet?

Yeah and I'm fucking appalled, partially because history has looked dimly upon the Pakistan team's integrity and partially because I predicted 3-0 before the series began and went round crowing to everyone after that wound up the eventual (although alas impermanent) scoreline.

Have any of you cricket guys read "Anyone but England" by Mark Marqusee? Really gave me a different perspective on cricket and the often dodgy politics that surrounds it. One of his points was that Pakistan have a history of unproven innuendos about ball tampering being made against them, for example in the 1992 series in England. This might explain why they took such umbrage in 2006.

The only argument Pakistan could possibly have is that they were well on top in the match when it was called off, and probably bound for victory. But they made their decision and had to face the consequences. Protesting by staying off the field is pretty much a one-way ticket to loserville, and Hair's accusations of ball-tampering were, I'd imagine, well-founded. Most countries have done it at some point, if you're caught, 5-run penalty, fines, accept it, carry on. Don't throw a fucking strop like idiot babies.

No I haven't read that book but it look intersting, will investigate!

Also, in yesterday's Evening Standard (picked up free of charge on a train, not bought) I found the word "umbrage" spelt "umbridge". Either listening to the Archers while writing or just plain flaming incompetent. Note to newspapers: please employ people who are not iliterate (HINT).

Oh I agree that Pakistan were wrong to walk off, it's just that their actions didn't come out of nowhere, and that there's a history to this. You're right that all countries have a history of ball tampering, but it seems to be Pakistan in England that get pilloried for it.

I would highly recommend the Marqusee book. He's an American sociologist who fell in love with cricket in the 70s. This gives him an outsiders view of the game, and he has some pithy stuff to say about it.

I found the word "umbrage" spelt "umbridge". Either listening to the Archers while writing or just plain flaming incompetent. Note to newspapers: please employ people who are not iliterate (HINT).

Is that a "don't employ me, please" hint, then?

Ah, self-depracation will only get you so far it seems.

Shoaib needs a job

BBC now reporting Michael Holding has resigned from the ICC over the issue.

Michael Holding has resigned from cricket's governing body, the ICC, over its decision to change the result of a 2006 Test between England and Pakistan.

Pakistan were deemed to have forfeited the game at the Oval after they refused to return to the field when umpires accused them of ball tampering.

The tourists were later cleared of the latter offence and on Thursday the outcome of the match changed to a draw. "That game should never, ever be a draw," said West Indies legend Holding.

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Holding agrees Pakistan were innocent of ball-tampering but insists their refusal to retake the field should have been punished.

"When you take certain actions, you must be quite happy to suffer the consequences," he said.

"I have just written my letter of resignation to the ICC Cricket Committee because I cannot agree with what they've done.

"A lot of things that are happening today that I don't want to be involved with, so I've moved on."