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i would start the thread but the pressure of coming up with a good title is too much for me

anyway, this is the huffpo column about kagan -- it's not gonna do anything to pacify people already against her nomination, but it does make some interesting points, both about the court as a whole and about kagan

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lawrence-lessig/a-case-for-kagan_b_551511.html

J0rdan S., Monday, 10 May 2010 04:52 (thirteen years ago) link

funny cuz this far-right court you're talking about has ruled 5-4 (stevens in the majority) a few times against executive powers in the past few years

xp

sveltko (k3vin k.), Monday, 10 May 2010 04:57 (thirteen years ago) link

that you can honestly believe that obama would make a decision like this as some furtive executive power grab is just so lol

iatee, Monday, 10 May 2010 05:04 (thirteen years ago) link

but I guess you believe that he's an evil dude and that's how evil dudes operate I guess

iatee, Monday, 10 May 2010 05:06 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah it's not like he reconsidered his stance on FISA or the FOIA act or anything, he's a solid guy without any of the usual trappings of power - his immunity to its allure is kind of singular n'est-pas

brad whitford's impotent rage (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 10 May 2010 05:08 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah dogg i read that article a while ago, it basically doesn't say anything other than "trust me, i know her and she's gonna be great". the whole thing about her being able to sway conservatives based on the fact that she hired some white dudes at harvard is some wishful thinking BS imho - it's actually the opposite of what we want, which is someone who can make conservatives see it our way, rather than meeting them halfway, which is the best we can say about hiring a bunch of conservatives. what is the point of forging consensus with conervatives if the consensus isn't on our side?

sveltko (k3vin k.), Monday, 10 May 2010 05:09 (thirteen years ago) link

so you want compromises where the other side suddenly agrees with you 100%

iatee, Monday, 10 May 2010 05:10 (thirteen years ago) link

alright i bit the bullet US POLITICS: underrated supreme court decisions that i have read

J0rdan S., Monday, 10 May 2010 05:11 (thirteen years ago) link

what is the point of forging consensus with conservatives

well I mean I think the point of forging consensus w/conservatives is that one actually agrees with them generally about most stuff, if we're being honest

brad whitford's impotent rage (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 10 May 2010 05:12 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean that entire artice iirc goes on about how awesome kagan is without describing a single view she holds, other than that she's a "progressive". alright, if you say so, lawrence lessig.

xp no you retard, i don't want compromises at all. i want someone who has a record as being on the right side, and persuading conservatives to agree with her view of the case, rather than meeting them halfway - something wood has a record of doing, and kagan we're just praying for

sveltko (k3vin k.), Monday, 10 May 2010 05:13 (thirteen years ago) link

and yeah i realize nine times outta ten wood and thomas may have the same view on a case - it's the close ones we're worried about

sveltko (k3vin k.), Monday, 10 May 2010 05:15 (thirteen years ago) link

we can lock this now

sveltko (k3vin k.), Monday, 10 May 2010 05:16 (thirteen years ago) link


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