Ladies and gentlemen....the 1990s ILX SINGLES POLL RESULTS

After seeing the video for another track with that Brian Green guy from 90210, my goodwill died stillborn.

Roxy totally OTM. Song 2 getting into this list is maybe the biggest mindfuck of all.

I also calculated that if I'd remembered to vote for California Love it'd have been at about 21 instead of 29. Boo.

Ang big love to my man Snoop!

well not everyone voted for the 'homophobe' option last tuesday either kg but they won anyway, here you don't even need a majority of the vote to get it twisted, just four or five st. etienne singles.
-- cinniblount, November 11th, 2004.

Kevin points out that the results are not "whites only." Despite the overrepresentation of certain bands (none of which I am even really familiar with except in the vaguest way, incidentally), the list isn't a "whites only" list. I don't see where you really acknowledge that. Instead you continue to complain about too many selections from certain bands, while associating the results of this ILM poll with the recent U.S. presidential election (the results of which most of us think were very bad if not simply a disaster), something far more serious.

I don't think listening to music according to racial quotas makes a lot of sense, but I guess this language will lead to accusations that I subscribe to the National Review or have a eugenics meeting to attend, or the usual nonsense.

x-post: thank you Martin.

England, c. 1990-99 ;)

(As for blount, he has found a way to bully people and feel self-righteous at the same time. That's what it comes down to.)

In what world does Saint Etienne qualify as "British rock revivalism"? (or Pulp for that matter?!)

Like I said before, I voted for four Saint Etienne songs and three Pulp songs (I also nominated Quad City DJs if that matters, it apparently does for some reason...). Hey, maybe it's fanboyism -- they could be my two favorite artists ever -- but I'm not sure how not being 'bright' enters into it: Why is a strong connection with an artist a matter of having an improper level of intelligence or sub-CIF thought? Or, if this is what you're implying, why is voting/listening primarily with your head more proper than primarily voting/listening with your heart? (If anything, the "right" Saint Etienne songs just happened to be nominated. If a completely different five St. Et. songs were picked, there's no way they'd have all made it-- and if all five St. Et. LPs get in, that will be a bit puzzling.)

(fwiw, "Common People" won this by a significant margin, it's apparently not just a small group of racist fanboys voting for them.)

if the Geto Boys had made #1, there would probably be accusations of an offensive irony flying around (altho many genuinely like their track there still seems to be a sense that they are the token 'joke'/cool entry) - please nobody tell me how much they genuinely do like 'mind playin tricks on me' now tho. i don't care, i never heard it until it was nominated but don't consider that to be that big a flaw (lots of other tracks could've ended up in the position, including many from the omgwtflol poll which had accusations of quasi-racism flying around too). you can never win really.

I don't seem to be the only one who has "misunderstood" you here either.

I'd be interested in knowing who ILXors in general think resorts to bullying more, you or me, blount.

Just sayin'.

I figured the Geto Boys vote pooling would maybe get it into the top 40, I never would've guessed it'd make the top five.

I want to point out that if there were 5 songs by two rap artists, I would still have a problem with list and I would still be complaining at how dull and (Blount pegged it) fanboyish voting for the same artist nearly half a dozen times. That said IMO the list wouldn't suck as much if there were 5 songs each by Biggie and Dre or Nas and Wu-Tang or something.

Very much so.

(Biggie placed 3 of his 4 nominated songs; Wu-Tang, 2 of 3; Blur placed 2 of 5 nominated songs; B&S placed 2 of 3, so they did do better than those other artist any way you look at it) BUT that's a small matter compared to making generalizations about the poll's two anomolies and this absolute fantasy that Saint Etienne is a rock band(?!) They've dabbled in pop, northern soul, yé-yé, exotica, acid house, techno, etc., but not rock...they've even arguably borrowed more from hip-hop than rock. Pulp, maybe, maybe is a rock band, although the songs of theirs that placed in this poll have more "popist" sensibilites than "rockist" ones -- even then these are hardly bands that create pop-structured songs that betray any sort of rockist tendencies, so I don't see how you can make that conclusion about those who listen to them.

The thing about the UK charts, and music scene in general, is that in the 90s dance music was [to] the UK what hip-hop was [to] the US.

it just would prove how good or how much of an impact that paticular artist had or has.

and these things never reflect what's 'best', only what's the 'most popular/preferred'

(i didn't vote for any st etienne albums)

Yeah, sure. My only problem with the five St. Etiennes is that only one, maybe two of them deserve to be there. I agree with all the Pulp inclusions except "Do You Remember the First Time?," though not necessarily with the placements.