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anybody tempted to pay $100 for africa brasil should pick up the salve jorge 14 (!) CD box set

1. Samba Esquema Novo (1963)
2. Sacudin Ben Samba (1964)
3. Ben é Samba Bom (1964)
4. Big Ben (1965)
5. Jorge Ben (1969)
6. Força Bruta (1970)
7. Negro é lindo (1971)
8. Ben (1972)
9. Jorge Ben 10 Anos Depois (1973)
10. A Tábua de Esmeralda (1974)
11. Solta o Pavão (1975)
12. Gil & Jorge - Ogum Xangô (1975)
13. África Brasil (1976)
14. Salve, Jorge! Raridades e Inéditas - Duplo (1963-1976) (double CD with rarities)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/Salve_Jorge.jpg

鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 02:46 (thirteen years ago) link

:O

stupidfruityswagaliciousexpialidocious (m bison), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 12:26 (thirteen years ago) link

why is christmas so far away, fuck you jesus

stupidfruityswagaliciousexpialidocious (m bison), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 12:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I can't believe someone had to post the contents of the Boxset for someone to mention Solta o Pavão (1975). It's nestled right there in between A Tabua and Africa Brasil, so it's no major departure...I dig it front to back.

WharfRat, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 13:01 (thirteen years ago) link

is Ogum Xangô something other than the album I know as just Gil e Jorge?

FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 13:55 (thirteen years ago) link

it is the very same

stupidfruityswagaliciousexpialidocious (m bison), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 13:58 (thirteen years ago) link

always thought this guy missed an opportunity to really make his name into a palindrome

jorge ben neb egroj

by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 14:06 (thirteen years ago) link

I've been listening to a banda do zé pretinho (1978) a ton lately and I'll put that b-side up against any other side of songs in his catalog

maybe crazy talk but I was *really* digging it last night

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM56NuTew_s

鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link

dope, reminds me of "cinco minutos" a bit

stupidfruityswagaliciousexpialidocious (m bison), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link

title track is the bomb too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTuN-BnrKW4

鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link

four months pass...

can't believe what africa brasil is selling for now... $100 or up

looks like it's come down to $50 i guess but dang. i wanted to buy this for my gf for her b-day, among other things like all stockpile-of-small-presents-style, but ehm i'll find something else. too poor. like maybe another really great jorge ben album that i can afford.

she's one intense bitch, she rides a unicycle (arby's), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 03:08 (thirteen years ago) link

this one is only $30 and is so wonderful (different cover than i've seen before)
http://www.discogs.com/sell/item/28129335?ev=bp_titl

jaxon, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 03:12 (thirteen years ago) link

i've been meaning to buy it for like six years

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 03:12 (thirteen years ago) link

actually, half that on ebay. i'd actually buy that, but i'm not buying records right now
http://cgi.ebay.com/JORGE-BEN-7-PS-EP-BRAZIL-TABUA-ESMERALDA-1974-/130426016475?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item1e5dff12db

jaxon, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 03:14 (thirteen years ago) link

^ looks like a 7"?

(e_3) (Edward III), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 04:20 (thirteen years ago) link

forca bruta is awesome

http://www.dustygroove.com/item.php?id=prcy48xh2b

(e_3) (Edward III), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 04:23 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost. o u rite. ha

jaxon, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 04:24 (thirteen years ago) link

this was my jam all summer long

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbSYwWazwt4

(e_3) (Edward III), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 04:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I got Africa Brasil (on CD) off Discogs for about £20 a few months ago, you just have to be patient...

Everyone should own this album btw.

seandalai, Tuesday, 28 September 2010 11:51 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Jorge Ben, 70 today. Congratulations

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Friday, 23 March 2012 00:31 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

touring the US again next week

curmudgeon, Thursday, 7 November 2013 03:45 (ten years ago) link

I don't think Africa Brasil is on Spotify

curmudgeon, Thursday, 7 November 2013 15:10 (ten years ago) link

But its on Youtube

curmudgeon, Thursday, 7 November 2013 16:54 (ten years ago) link

Gonna see him perform again Saturday night (last saw him in 2004)

curmudgeon, Friday, 15 November 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link

bummed abt the itinerary... looks like the only dates are FL, DC, NYC and SF

tho I guess it saves me the temptation of dropping $60 to see him

a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Saturday, 16 November 2013 00:05 (ten years ago) link

i would pay $6000 to see jorge ben play a concert in tx

shiny trippy people holding bandz (m bison), Saturday, 16 November 2013 03:20 (ten years ago) link

if he was busking in the street, i wd go to my bank and plo 6 g's in his guitar case

shiny trippy people holding bandz (m bison), Saturday, 16 November 2013 03:20 (ten years ago) link

*plop

shiny trippy people holding bandz (m bison), Saturday, 16 November 2013 03:21 (ten years ago) link

everyone shd listen to "ben", it is one of my favorite 10 records by anybody ever

shiny trippy people holding bandz (m bison), Saturday, 16 November 2013 03:22 (ten years ago) link

been digging this africa brasil era TV perf of "zumbi"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXMZw0gUyPA

a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Saturday, 16 November 2013 04:22 (ten years ago) link

i think zumbi (africa brasil) is possibly the greatest song ever made

shiny trippy people holding bandz (m bison), Saturday, 16 November 2013 04:30 (ten years ago) link

well africa brasil is possibly the greatest album ever made so it follows

call all destroyer, Saturday, 16 November 2013 04:51 (ten years ago) link

actually my favorite jorge ben song might be the a tabua "zumbi"

for a song abt slavery it's pretty joyful sounding

I love africa brasil but I'm kind of burnt out on it

a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Saturday, 16 November 2013 07:26 (ten years ago) link

if u are burnt out on it, go listen to "ben", totally different vibe

shiny trippy people holding bandz (m bison), Saturday, 16 November 2013 12:34 (ten years ago) link

I've got about ten Jorge Ben albums and I always think I have one definitive favorite until I play a different one and it becomes my new favorite — until of course I play another one and that becomes my favorite.

I definitely have a favorite song though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YikALKVpb0o

Love that string arrangement in the final third of the tune. Gives me chills on most days.

Austin, Saturday, 16 November 2013 14:17 (ten years ago) link

Ahh, try that again, for those that do not wish to click away from this thread, but would still like to listen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YikALKVpb0o

Austin, Saturday, 16 November 2013 14:18 (ten years ago) link

Dusty Groove was supposed to reissue Negro e Linda, Ben and Solta O Pavao in August, but they've been listed as "delayed" since that time. I was hoping they'd do remastering of them independent of the Salve, Jorge! box that came out from Universal Brazil a couple of years ago, whose sound is kinda loud and harsh — the reissues Dusty Groove did of the '69 s/t and Força Bruta sounded really nice.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Saturday, 16 November 2013 16:40 (ten years ago) link

The man is probably my favorite songwriter of all time. How he has managed to churn out so much incredible music is just unreal. Pretty much any of his albums up until the 1980s are outright classics, although I am most partial to his debut, Forca Bruta, and O Bido. I think his debut album was so ahead of its time and is one of the best pop albums ever made.

For all the love Africa Brasil gets it's nowhere near his best in my opinion. My favorite aspect of his pre-Africa Brasil output is the sound of his acoustic guitar, so taking it out is almost too big of a loss to surmount.

Great thread by the way. My listening for the rest of the night is sorted.

issiahtwofour, Saturday, 16 November 2013 22:13 (ten years ago) link

I've got about ten Jorge Ben albums and I always think I have one definitive favorite until I play a different one and it becomes my new favorite
To this I can relate.

He's here tomorrow night but don't think I can make it.

Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2013 00:07 (ten years ago) link

I love africa brasil but I'm kind of burnt out on it

― a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Saturday, November 16, 2013 2:26 AM (19 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if u are burnt out on it, go listen to "ben", totally different vibe

― shiny trippy people holding bandz (m bison), Saturday, November 16, 2013 7:34 AM (13 hours ago)

yeah, I know all about ben. I've heard everything up through the 80s. the holy trinity for me is africa brasil, a tabua, and forca bruta. a banda do ze pretinho just outside that. the rest have some great tracks but don't work well as albums for me.

the s/t 1969 has always baffled me. it kept me from getting into his early stuff for a while, ppl call it one of his best but every time I listen to it it leaves me cold.

a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Sunday, 17 November 2013 03:14 (ten years ago) link

Like the same ones as you but have more time for the earlier ones as well.

Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2013 03:17 (ten years ago) link

Dusty Groove was supposed to reissue Negro e Linda, Ben and Solta O Pavao in August, but they've been listed as "delayed" since that time. I was hoping they'd do remastering of them independent of the Salve, Jorge! box that came out from Universal Brazil a couple of years ago, whose sound is kinda loud and harsh — the reissues Dusty Groove did of the '69 s/t and Força Bruta sounded really nice.

They indeed do wonderful and I as well have been watching for those delayed reissues since probably at least June.

The David Axelrod Seriously Deep and the other Jorge Ben albums they did a few years back were all so well done. Just wish they had done vinyl reissues as well.

Austin, Sunday, 17 November 2013 05:38 (ten years ago) link

He was a lot of fun live last night at the Howard Theatre even if I didn't recognize some of the songs.I think they were doing some post-70s ones with a rap-funk flavor. Plus ones like "Spirogyra." I know its $80 some bucks to see him in NY but it might be worth it. In DC lots of Portuguese-speakers were there happily chanting and singing along and swaying and sambaing. As Ben did when I saw him in 2004, he invited women onstage to dance to "Gostosa." They were also hugging him and taking "selfies" as he kept singing. He looks much younger than 68. They closed with a joyfully melodic "Taj Mahal."

curmudgeon, Sunday, 17 November 2013 18:23 (ten years ago) link

Hm. I wonder if I should try to get over there tonight. Went to see Marisa Monte a few months back and there were a lot of Brazilians in the audience singing along as well which made it a lot of fun.

Picture Books of the Pyramid Meets the Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2013 18:47 (ten years ago) link

Do it. Just uh skip something in the future to justify the $80 plus

curmudgeon, Monday, 18 November 2013 05:24 (ten years ago) link

Searched "jorge ben" on twitter and recent tweets were divided between those loving the NYC show, and those complaining about how much they hate B.B. King's club in NYC where Jorge played. The folks who book that place also book the Howard Theatre in D.C. (with high prices at both)

curmudgeon, Monday, 18 November 2013 15:35 (ten years ago) link

Couldn't make it and don't love that place. Last time I went was years ago to see the Yardbirds with Mr. Fine Wine whose childhood friend was in the band, so I got to meet Giorgio Gomelsky and Jim McCarty. Had no such connection for this show.

Picture Books of the Pyramid Meets the Eye (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 November 2013 15:44 (ten years ago) link

Why no NPR concert (like Bill Callahan) or NPR Tiny Desk Unit show (like lots of indie folks) for Jorge Ben. C'mon Bob Boilen

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 15:21 (ten years ago) link

I've never heard "O Bidu: Silencio no Brooklyn" or his s/t 1969 album, but apparently they're both hella wild and very free sometimes.

I just heard this album and while it doesn't get very free or wild, it sounded wonderful. His singing is GREAT, cooler and chill (not quite as dense as a lot of his other stuff I've heard, less syllables per bar). And the texture of his voice has this wonderful grain to it, a perfect rough/smooth balance (maybe due to the production? the overall sound of the album is great, if a bit rough). And the songs are catchy as hell.

☞ (brimstead), Thursday, 28 November 2013 21:09 (ten years ago) link

this album = O Bidu

☞ (brimstead), Thursday, 28 November 2013 21:09 (ten years ago) link


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