Deftones: Underrated?

so, has anyone else heard the new one?

Heard 'Back to Skooooohoool' (sic) tonight. Fuck, if that isn't the worst song of all time then christ knows what could be.

yeah but Street Carp is probably one of the best songs ever written...

Am I the only one with a soft spot for "Be Quiet and Drive (Far Away)"?

"Change (In the House of Flies)" is my favourite song from White Pony.

"back to school" is indeed bad but it was an alternate version of one of their songs which was tacked onto a "re-release" of White Pony:

"Back to School (Mini Maggit)" was released as both a single and as an EP package; the single was released shortly before the EP.

Vocalist Chino Moreno: "This album right here [the White Pony re-release] is not the album that we turned into the label. As far as we're concerned, the first edition was the record. Done. Then they talked us into re-releasing it with another song on it, and it's not like I'm against the song or whatever, but I liked the sequence we had when we first turned it in. When this version came out, a little part inside all of us felt like: 'Fuck! We just totally compromised.' And I know that a lot of our fans felt bad about it too."[1]

Am I the only one with a soft spot for "Be Quiet and Drive (Far Away)"

no way. that song is great!

that's a good one but I like My Own Summer (Shove It) a little more

i played guitar in a band in high school that covered deftones, metallica, etc... we played at our senior class party thing and opened with my own summer. i broke my low e string almost immediately :(

i've heard the new album once, not enough of an opinion to cast judgment on it yet

regarding "white pony." if i've ever needed an album to remind me of where i was musically/emotionally that year as an upstate high-schooler involved only with what was heard on FM radio, that album is it

"back to school" is indeed bad but it was an alternate version of one of their songs which was tacked onto a "re-release" of White Pony:

"Back to School (Mini Maggit)" was released as both a single and as an EP package; the single was released shortly before the EP.

Vocalist Chino Moreno: "This album right here [the White Pony re-release] is not the album that we turned into the label. As far as we're concerned, the first edition was the record. Done. Then they talked us into re-releasing it with another song on it, and it's not like I'm against the song or whatever, but I liked the sequence we had when we first turned it in. When this version came out, a little part inside all of us felt like: 'Fuck! We just totally compromised.' And I know that a lot of our fans felt bad about it too."[1]

― (latebloomer) (latebloomer)

That's such a fucking lame excuse. If they were truly awesome they wouldn't mind whatever song the label picked as a single. Stop creating music that makes you feel ashamed.

Chino's pretty good at coming across as a doofus in interviews...I also wish he wouldn't scream "Squeal like a pig!" throughout their cover of "Say It Ain't So."

eh my point was that "back to school" is a dumb song to judge the band by

"Stop creating music that makes you feel ashamed."

have you ever made music? sometimes shit doesn't turn out as great as you hoped.

also it wasn't a song originally on the album, and the label tacked it on.

don't know why i'm all cap'n save-a-tone today

So the bonus tracks include a Drive Like Jehu cover and a Japan cover. That works.

man i should have thought about only writing super genius music, too late now

http://www.dischord.com/images.d/release/image/6623/063.jpg

ILM/music critics aren't the world, but certainly in those worlds the Deftones are far from underrated. in fact, they seem to be the only nu-metal band in those worlds that gets positive mentions at all (which is interesting in itself).

since no-one gives a shit about nu-metal anymore, though, i guess in that sense they are underrated.

actually, i see that their new record is selling pretty well so i guess they aren't "underrated" as far as the general public is concerned either.

That favorite albums list on the Quietus confirms that these guys, if anything, have impeccable taste.

^^^was just coming here to post the same thing!
http://thequietus.com/articles/05329-deftones-chino-interview-favourite-records?page=1

Yeah, great list. LOVE that he has that Hum record on there.

It's the main thing that's impressed me with meeting them all several times. A lot of bands pay lip service to having interesting taste in music but Deftones really know their shit. Chino and Frank (DJ) especially. They'll talk to you about Coldcut, Three Six Mafia, Slayer and Aphex Twin.

Super nice guys as well. Awful business with what happened to Chi. He is a gent, y'know.

Someone tell me about the Too $hort and Hum records, please- worth hearing?

Sure didn't expect to see that Spain record there but that was pretty inspired. Good stuff indeed and one exception aside (go away Interpol) I'd happily give an ear to it all. Even Tortwah just because it's not Millions.

The Spain record is great isn't it. Will have to seek a copy out, not heard it in years.

this year's deftones album is very good I gotta say

i dunno, i like them alright - but this new one seemed to drag on for what seemed like forever. there's few very solid tracks - but overall i wasn't blown away.

think the last few tracks are stronger than the first few tbh - the songs are pretty short, can get thru it easily

ya - when i say dragged on i just mean it seemed that way - alot of the tracks got really same-y sounding to me. i didn't mean anything was actually long.

think this album dips a bit in the 8/9 position but then rly picks up again for the last 4 - mebbe w/o those 2 songs it'd be more palatable and wd even seem more varied - no biggie tho afaic

Never occurred to me in all these years that Deftones can be broken into Deft ones.

lol

I made myself a Deftones comp once with that name. I thought it was pretty clever at the time.

the new album is reasonably good, but the band does come dangerously close to tossing in a couple of half-baked re-recordings of songs from previous albums.

two new songs are incredible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPO81Fz4s2g

and "tempest," here: http://www.spin.com/articles/deftones-tempest-listen

Like both tunes. Chino's wailing quality vs the chugging guitars on "Leathers" gives me some very vague, but present, Converge vibes.

LOL there is a song on the new record called "goon squad"

koi no yokan leaked. only on the first song but so far it's AWESOME

ahhhhh this record RULES

R.I.P. Chi Cheng

dang, rip

god bless you all

Rip

didn't even know about the accident or his condition. so sad.

Totally sad. He might have been my favorite. R.I.P.

The only things I know about Deftones are that lots of ilxors seem to think they're pretty good and that once I received this promo sticker in a bag with my purchase from a local record store.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41NG-JTVYsL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rte2YuDtfVY

that's sick!

I want full boutique remix versions of all the albums now tbh

I just barely talked myself out of $20 for a two-track picture disc on RSD. How's the Arca mix on the flip side?

the visuals on the youtube made the rest of this thread trip out to my eyes briefly!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ipy0D6ySYgA

Is their current US tour w/ Gojira on or not? I've seen conflicting reports.

Postponed till 2022.

Deftones part ways with long-time bassist Sergio Vega.

https://www.wearethepit.com/2022/03/deftones-bassist-sergio-vega-parts-ways-with-band-provides-statement/

Sure makes the band seem like a bunch of dicks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3o8g6VGktw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awWKnZsaO3o

Liberty DeVito just jumped into my shortlist of rock personalities I want to hear stories from.