ILX0RS: JAZZ IS THE TEACHER. YEAH, IT'S A JAZZ THING >> THE ILM JAZZ LISTENING CLUB! [NEW CHOICES EVERY WEDNESDAY!]

so is jazz club still moving to a tuesday or are there stragglers still wanting to talk about last weeks albums?

If a hoy a hoy is ready then go ahead!

Thanks for the Bobby H. introduction, enjoyed very much. Like the quieter pieces, especially "Tranquility" more but will be coming back to this.

I surprised myself by not engaging as much with Lonnie L S this time, finding about half of it - I dunno - noodly / cheesy / lite. The title track remains an amazing thing to behold tho

And felt real good to be listening to "The Creator...." again after several years. Easily the best of your picks: I can immediately smell the incense smoking away on stage when i saw him ('97, maybe early '98) at the Jazz Cafe.

Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

sam are you around? post your albums!

I think maybe the snooker put him in a coma

i love susie ibarra. i missed out on week 2 (and 1...) but will say that Karma is one epic killer of an album

you can post about any of the albums anytime if youre playing catch up. Good chat on the albums shouldn't end with the next picks.

SAM post your albums already

srry, was at work last night

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Africa/Brass by John Coltrane

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The Real McCoy by McCoy Tyner

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Juju by Wayne Shorter

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I was torn between Olé and A/B. (Well, and Ascension but I think it is too early for that). Really though they are both perfect singular records from the Coltrane dynasty, a lot darker and heavier than the more obv. stuff like Blue Train and A Love Supreme. Plus, Eric Dolphy is one cool motherfucker.

The Real McCoy is just hard as hell and I loves it.

Was a toss-up between Juju, Money Jungle and Maiden Voyage, went with the one w/ the coolest cover imo.

A McCoy Tyner/Elvin Jones trilogy! Nice.

just to say i don't really know what to say about a lot of music i like these days but really enjoyed last week's selections and am looking forward to this week's.

Fine choices Sam, all 3 are,again, essential classics.
Ronan, glad you enjoyed my picks! I hoped to see you in funk club.

yeah i must get across all the clubs really as the whole idea is great for me, really looking forward to my week btw...

looking forward to seeing what you think of the jazz and funk albums.

I hope everyone is checking out Sam's excellent picks.

Africa/Brass rules

been on a coltrane binge lately but i have never really gotten around to africa/brass so i'm taking this as an incentive. and with all these listening clubs around i guess it's a good idea to sign up for premium again...

I hope you have more luck as i keep getting tracks stalling and conking out.

since their "social update" it's been awful, one in two tracks starting halfway through etc. plus a bunch of fb-peope are now constantly recommending me mew and mgmt :(

well i dont have facebook thankfully, but when I pay £10 for premium I expect it to work. the free version works fine so fuck knows why the premium has problems. Quite a few times tracks just stop dead within 30-60 secs

Can a mod update the thread title please so everyone knows to click on the thread for the new picks?

Juju is wonderful; that was on my shortlist for my own picks. Just started The Real McCoy and expect to enjoy it thoroughly.

Juju is a killer album, though See No Evil might be my fave Shorter Blue Note. They're all great. He was a busy dude in the 60s! Crazy how many albums he's on, how many shows he played, how many songs he wrote.
Juju is interesting though -- just the fact that he borrowed Coltrane's entire band! Like, you'd almost think that he might want to *avoid* comparisons to Trane. But I'm glad he didn't. Everybody sounds fucking awesome here.

bump?

All Seeing Eye is another great Shorter album, but anything ive heard by him from back then has been terrific.

listened to all three this evening - great picks Sam (?)!

Not much to say really except great playing on each track - masters each one!

ty :)

Sam what was the first jazz album you got into?

Umm... I had a friend back in six form who had this amazing collection and he set me right with so much but the first records he lent me? I think it was Alice Coltrane's Journey in longwordicannotspell and Dolphy's Out To Lunch. He also took me to see Shakti/John McLaughlin and Charles Lloyd and we met again last summer to see fucking Ornette! :D Unfortunately we got too stoned and barely saw any of the show but still :D

haha, you damn hippies! Would have loved to go to jazz gigs in the 60s, far more than to a load of rock gigs tbh. Mind you, you used to get jazz and rock bands on the same bill. MC5,Stooges, funkadelic, Zappa,Sun Ra all on the one bill. Miles touring with rock bands, god that musta been amazing.

yeah that sounds like heaven. + mc5.

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africa/brass is one of my fave albums.
I was gonna do mccoy's extensions as one of my picks; may still. real mccoy is also great.
I know tragically little shorter. I'll go snag juju.

I think the albums that followed Juju were better but its a great starting point.

hey sam tell us more of your thoughts on the albums you chose.

Real McCoy is awesome. Everyone of those players (Tyner, Jones, Carter, Henderson) there are totally reliable. If you see a record with just one of them playing on it, you should probably get it. All four of them? So good. Henderson in particular -- he is such a strong musician, I like pretty much everything I've heard him play on. And he plays on a lot!

Xpost: agree, especially with regard to McCoy Tyner and Elvin Jones - all the Coltrane releases that they were on are essential.

this set is great -- looks like it's out of print, but everything on it is gold: http://www.amazon.com/Blue-Note-Years-Joe-Henderson/dp/B000008B7S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1273161240&sr=1-1

Joe Henderson is great! And was the highlight of the Tyner for me. Also really like "Elements" though found "Power to the People" to be kind of limp. He's also excellent on Alice Coltrane's "Ptah..."

Cant go wrong with Joe Henderson at all.

Do you like "Power to the People" pfunkboy? I picked it up after reading some rave somewhere and was fairly disappointed.

I think so, I'd need to give it another listen, its been a while.

Power to the People is good -- nice mix of acoustic/electric stuff, Herbie plays great on it. Might not be the most earth-shattering stuff you'll ever hear, but I like it.

not this herbie:
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this one:
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The lineup is great (Herbie, Ron Carter, Jack DeJohnette). I'll revisit it then!

So should I

yeah got it. will think include the one I wasn't gonna if I can get a Friday bonus for the other one.

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agree, the one I wasn't should be here!

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friday bonus is all me me me! (its cuz i cant wait 2 months for another shot haha)

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This kind of attitude deserves the kind of atonal retort only avant-garde jazz can deliver.

FREE-JAZZ FRIDAY BONUS: John Coltrane "Ascension"

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Ascension reflects more of an event rather than just a jazz record and should be sought out by either experienced jazz appreciators or other open-minded listeners, but not by unsuspecting bystanders

Spotify: http://open.spotify.com/album/6PTuYbT38J0UvZINkJu8W8

AMG review:

Ascension is the single recording that placed John Coltrane firmly into the avant-garde. Whereas, prior to 1965, Coltrane could be heard playing in an avant vein with stretched-out solos, atonality, and a seemingly free design to the beat, Ascension throws most rules right out the window with complete freedom from the groove and strikingly abrasive sheets of horn interplay. Recorded with three tenors (Trane, Pharoah Sanders, Archie Shepp), two altos (Marion Brown, John Tchicai), two trumpet players (Freddie Hubbard, Dewey Johnson), two bassists (Art Davis, Jimmy Garrison), the lone McCoy Tyner on piano, and Elvin Jones on the drums, this large group is both relentless and soulful simultaneously. While there are segments where the ensemble plays discordant and abrasive skronks, these are usually segues into intriguing blues-based solos from each member. The comparison that is immediately realized is Ornette Coleman's Free Jazz of five years previous. However, it should be known that Ascension certainly carries its own weight, and in a strange sense makes Coleman's foray a passive adventure -- mostly due to an updated sonic quality (à la Bob Thiele) and also Trane's greater sense of passionate spiritualism. Timed at around 40 minutes, this can be a difficult listen at first, but with a patient ear and an appreciation for the finer things in life, the reward is a greater understanding of the personal path that the artist was on at that particular time in his development. Coltrane was always on an unceasing mission for personal expansion through the mouthpiece of his horn, but by the time of this recording he had begun to reach the level of "elder statesman" and to find other voices (Shepp, Sanders, and Marion Brown) to propel and expand his sounds and emotions. Therefore, Ascension reflects more of an event rather than just a jazz record and should be sought out by either experienced jazz appreciators or other open-minded listeners, but not by unsuspecting bystanders. ~ Sam Samuelson, All Music Guide

Awesome album!!!!
(ps can trade you a bonus funk for bonus jazz) lol

oh btw, Ascension first-time listeners, you can but do not need to listen to both takes:

Two takes of the piece were recorded. The second take was issued on LP first, then withdrawn at Coltrane's insistence; this came to be called "Ascension, Edition I" (although nowhere on the LP was it identified as such). It was eventually replaced with the first take, similar except with a different solo order and no drum solo by Jones. This is "Edition II", and an etching in the outgroove of the vinyl LP identified it as such. Both takes are available on the Compact Disc reissue.

It just occurred to me, at 40 minutes single track length, how did this fit onto vinyl when first released? Did they just split it midway?