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ok i may have co-signed GUDNU's first post but i have no idea what all this other shit's about. people think "Paper Planes" has the same drums as "Laffy Taffy"? wtf?

all i know is i don't like her as a vocalist -- as a singer, she sucks, as a rapper, she sucks, as a dancehall-style vocalist, she sucks, even as a genre-busting uncategorizable rebel, she's still just kinda lame imo.

jacka husalah terrier (some dude), Monday, 3 May 2010 05:49 (thirteen years ago) link

ok i may have co-signed GUDNU's first post but i have no idea what all this other shit's about. people think "Paper Planes" has the same drums as "Laffy Taffy"? wtf?

^^^dog i didnt say this i was quoting rev

Gifted Unlimited Display Names Universal (deej), Monday, 3 May 2010 05:50 (thirteen years ago) link

or paraphrasing rev

Gifted Unlimited Display Names Universal (deej), Monday, 3 May 2010 05:51 (thirteen years ago) link

i was using "laffy taffy drums" as a shorthand for saying "snaps are prominently involved in the song, which is why a lot of people find it danceable"

J0rdan S., Monday, 3 May 2010 05:52 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah deej i know you didn't say "Laffy Taffy" but 2 people did in a weird matter-of-fact way that made me feel like they actually thought it had drums from that song

jacka husalah terrier (some dude), Monday, 3 May 2010 05:54 (thirteen years ago) link

I didn't mean they literally came from "Laffy Taffee", just that they were inna similar stylee

WE THE VIKING (The Reverend), Monday, 3 May 2010 06:32 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i realize that now, but at the time it seemed to be done in the same kind of shorthand with which people were referencing songs actually samples in it like "Straight To Hell" so i was like wahh

jacka husalah terrier (some dude), Monday, 3 May 2010 06:48 (thirteen years ago) link

people like MIA always make me wonder...what do does she do in her downtime? will she kick back and have a brewski? does she take off her shoes when she goes home? would she say no to a nice bubble bath with lavender scented bath salts?

going non-native (dyao), Monday, 3 May 2010 13:08 (thirteen years ago) link

"liming and drinkin tiger beer with my pet turtel" iirc

the subject of many paedo's thoughts (history mayne), Monday, 3 May 2010 13:10 (thirteen years ago) link

kinda feelin for deej on this, tho i like MIA

plax (ico), Monday, 3 May 2010 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link

lol this is so late as to be an irrelevant response, particularly in light of the bitchfest I'm glossing over, but:

as in wrt violence or generally xp?

― nakhchivan, Saturday, May 1, 2010 6:24 PM

Both. The kid getting shot seems shocking mostly because it's a kid and the slo-mo gore explosion wasn't nearly as grisly as I expected it to be based on how it was written up. I thought it told a perfectly fine story with the right mix of misdirection and arbitrariness to allow its message to have the right type of generic impact that allows the so-inclined person to extrapolate its events onto any violent government/terrorist conflict out there.

The fight upthread makes a bunch of assumptions I disagree with, particularly with regards to the definition of musicality; some of M.I.A.'s sloppiness comes from limited vocal talent but at least an equal measure comes from intentional artistic choice (likely informed by the aforementioned limited vocal talent). The way her beats are constructed reeks of magpie reappropriation, sometimes with great effect ("URAQT", "$20", "Paper Planes") and sometimes not ("Jimmy", "Mango Pickle Down River") but I do think the whole is more than the sum of its parts, and I don't actually know what, if any, sources my favorite songs of hers lift from ("Bamboo Banger", "Hombre", "Galang", "XR2", "Bird Flu") so I'm not at all ready to say that that is all she does.

Finally, Ma$e is one of the worst things to ever happen to popular music and if you are using him as a positive example of anything, you are wrong.

DUM DUM DUM DUMMMMM! (HI DERE), Monday, 3 May 2010 18:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Mo M.I.A. Mo Problems

ksh, Monday, 3 May 2010 18:37 (thirteen years ago) link

xxxxxxpost.

i actually thought the driving force behind paper planes' success was how it repurposed the lyrics from that wrecks-n-effect song. it was a clever nod to past and present culture.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 3 May 2010 18:55 (thirteen years ago) link

"Finally, Ma$e is one of the worst things to ever happen to popular music and if you are using him as a positive example of anything, you are wrong."

even if yr being intentionally dramatic this is ridiculous

Gifted Unlimited Display Names Universal (deej), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 03:24 (thirteen years ago) link

ma$e was a great pop artist

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 4 May 2010 03:26 (thirteen years ago) link

hes also a good rapper

Gifted Unlimited Display Names Universal (deej), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 03:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Kid who gets shot in the video: wkiw

Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 May 2010 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, that kid is awesome

it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Monday, 10 May 2010 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link

so does anyone know what mia thinks of joanna newsom?

call all destroyer, Monday, 10 May 2010 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link

let's ask joni mitchell

i fake it so real, i am beyonce (surm), Monday, 10 May 2010 20:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Official first single "XXXO":

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00s9wj1

about 25 minutes in.

nevermind312, Monday, 10 May 2010 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link

i actually thought the driving force behind paper planes' success was how it repurposed the lyrics from that wrecks-n-effect song. it was a clever nod to past and present culture.

― Daniel, Esq., Monday, May 3, 2010 2:55 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah i feel like way more people IDed that part of the song than the fact that it looped an instrumental bit from a Clash song that wasn't "Rock The Casbah" or "Should I Stay Or Should I Go"

cozen frustard (some dude), Monday, 10 May 2010 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link

woah the Chemical Brothers track before this is fricken HOT

it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Monday, 10 May 2010 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link

oh and btw fucking love "XXXO" after 3 seconds

it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Monday, 10 May 2010 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link

I feel like her pop/accessibility factor ramps up by a factor of 10 with each album she puts out.

it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Monday, 10 May 2010 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Ha - wasn't she just trashing Lady Gaga in a big interview? This sounds like a Lady Gaga b-side. (I liked "Born Free," though).

Becky Facelift, Monday, 10 May 2010 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link

repurposed the lyrics from that wrecks-n-effect song

never noticed this tbh

the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 10 May 2010 22:46 (thirteen years ago) link

xxxo isn't doing much for me, though the "you want me be somebody who i'm really not" hook is great. with becky in liking born free a lot better, though it's main point was that vegarev = god.

contenderizer, Monday, 10 May 2010 22:58 (thirteen years ago) link

is it available in a format that doesn't include me waiting for a podcast to load and skipping forward to 25 minutes in yet?

samosa gibreel, Monday, 10 May 2010 22:59 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, "radio rips" variously available. suspect/hope that the official version will sound a lot better.

contenderizer, Monday, 10 May 2010 23:03 (thirteen years ago) link

thanks

samosa gibreel, Monday, 10 May 2010 23:05 (thirteen years ago) link

lol "hottest record in the world"

samosa gibreel, Monday, 10 May 2010 23:06 (thirteen years ago) link

this song is more controversial than 'born free'

samosa gibreel, Monday, 10 May 2010 23:07 (thirteen years ago) link

The intro is killer, but then the rest sounds kind of meh to me. Also slightly bothered than she doesn't seem to be able to catch up with the lyrics, maybe she should have used less "x"s.

the subject of many men’s thoughts (daavid), Monday, 10 May 2010 23:08 (thirteen years ago) link

the delayed "-oh"s in the second half of the chorus are obv intentional and are good and cool

samosa gibreel, Monday, 10 May 2010 23:10 (thirteen years ago) link

this is about a million times better than born free though

the subject of many men’s thoughts (daavid), Monday, 10 May 2010 23:15 (thirteen years ago) link

M.I.A. would probably be disappointed to learn that I like this track so much because it reminds me of Lady Gaga. oof.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 10 May 2010 23:22 (thirteen years ago) link

why does it remind people of lady gaga? omg it's poppy, wow i forgot lady gaga is the only pop artist out today. the production on this track is what really elevates it in my opinion -- at the very least more interesting than anything redone and rob fusari have done. it actually somewhat pains me to have to make that comparison, really.

ps, i do love that chemical brothers track right before it.

teledyldonix, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 01:10 (thirteen years ago) link

repurposed the lyrics from that wrecks-n-effect song

never noticed this tbh

― the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier)

really?

wrecks-n-effect: ALL I WANNA DO IS ZOOM-A-ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM, AND A POOM-POOM, JUST SHAKE YA RUMP
mia: ALL I WANNA DO IS (BOOM!-a-BOOM!-a-BOOM!-a-BOOM!) AND (KKKAAA CHING), AND TAKE YA MONEY

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 11 May 2010 01:41 (thirteen years ago) link

i don't hate mia like most of you but man the twitter and iphone references are just like guuuuhhhhh

rahni, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 01:42 (thirteen years ago) link

yah she also had a more direct rump shaker quote earlier on a bangladesh beat "Hit That"

zvookster, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 02:02 (thirteen years ago) link

damn, I forgot about "Hit That". such a banger!

jagger edge (The Reverend), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 02:14 (thirteen years ago) link

that is barely a wrecks n effect reference. "all i wanna do is" is a reference?

no one claimed ppl were RECOGNIZING the clash sample, quite the opposite; its just a super catchy track

Gifted Unlimited Display Names Universal (deej), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 02:25 (thirteen years ago) link

i thought the parallel was obvious the first time i heard the song. maybe i was mistaken, and that wasn't what mia was going for, but it certainly seemed that way to me (and, as i say, that was the most compelling aspect of the song for me).

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 11 May 2010 02:29 (thirteen years ago) link

it's def a reference, when u see she has history there it's undeniable, but whether a large number of ppl responded to it, well no unless there's some huge collective pop culture subconscious out there that got it, which there isn't.

no one claimed ppl were RECOGNIZING the clash sample

OTM, some ppl who did and who previously said lol mia will neva b popular now said oh well that's just cuz of the clash iirc

zvookster, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 02:33 (thirteen years ago) link

"xxxo" is really awesome -- hope this is a huge pop hit this summer in the US

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 11 May 2010 02:35 (thirteen years ago) link

it sounds more like annie or something than lady gaga

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 11 May 2010 02:37 (thirteen years ago) link

i think annie should have the first huge US pop hit that sounds just like annie.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 11 May 2010 02:39 (thirteen years ago) link

both annie and mia are cute tho, so either one can have the hit, i suppose.

Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 11 May 2010 02:39 (thirteen years ago) link


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