ok i may have co-signed GUDNU's first post but i have no idea what all this other shit's about. people think "Paper Planes" has the same drums as "Laffy Taffy"? wtf?
all i know is i don't like her as a vocalist -- as a singer, she sucks, as a rapper, she sucks, as a dancehall-style vocalist, she sucks, even as a genre-busting uncategorizable rebel, she's still just kinda lame imo.
― jacka husalah terrier (some dude), Monday, 3 May 2010 05:49 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^dog i didnt say this i was quoting rev
― Gifted Unlimited Display Names Universal (deej), Monday, 3 May 2010 05:50 (thirteen years ago) link
or paraphrasing rev
― Gifted Unlimited Display Names Universal (deej), Monday, 3 May 2010 05:51 (thirteen years ago) link
i was using "laffy taffy drums" as a shorthand for saying "snaps are prominently involved in the song, which is why a lot of people find it danceable"
― J0rdan S., Monday, 3 May 2010 05:52 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah deej i know you didn't say "Laffy Taffy" but 2 people did in a weird matter-of-fact way that made me feel like they actually thought it had drums from that song
― jacka husalah terrier (some dude), Monday, 3 May 2010 05:54 (thirteen years ago) link
I didn't mean they literally came from "Laffy Taffee", just that they were inna similar stylee
― WE THE VIKING (The Reverend), Monday, 3 May 2010 06:32 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i realize that now, but at the time it seemed to be done in the same kind of shorthand with which people were referencing songs actually samples in it like "Straight To Hell" so i was like wahh
― jacka husalah terrier (some dude), Monday, 3 May 2010 06:48 (thirteen years ago) link
people like MIA always make me wonder...what do does she do in her downtime? will she kick back and have a brewski? does she take off her shoes when she goes home? would she say no to a nice bubble bath with lavender scented bath salts?
― going non-native (dyao), Monday, 3 May 2010 13:08 (thirteen years ago) link
"liming and drinkin tiger beer with my pet turtel" iirc
― the subject of many paedo's thoughts (history mayne), Monday, 3 May 2010 13:10 (thirteen years ago) link
kinda feelin for deej on this, tho i like MIA
― plax (ico), Monday, 3 May 2010 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link
lol this is so late as to be an irrelevant response, particularly in light of the bitchfest I'm glossing over, but:
as in wrt violence or generally xp?
― nakhchivan, Saturday, May 1, 2010 6:24 PM
Both. The kid getting shot seems shocking mostly because it's a kid and the slo-mo gore explosion wasn't nearly as grisly as I expected it to be based on how it was written up. I thought it told a perfectly fine story with the right mix of misdirection and arbitrariness to allow its message to have the right type of generic impact that allows the so-inclined person to extrapolate its events onto any violent government/terrorist conflict out there.
The fight upthread makes a bunch of assumptions I disagree with, particularly with regards to the definition of musicality; some of M.I.A.'s sloppiness comes from limited vocal talent but at least an equal measure comes from intentional artistic choice (likely informed by the aforementioned limited vocal talent). The way her beats are constructed reeks of magpie reappropriation, sometimes with great effect ("URAQT", "$20", "Paper Planes") and sometimes not ("Jimmy", "Mango Pickle Down River") but I do think the whole is more than the sum of its parts, and I don't actually know what, if any, sources my favorite songs of hers lift from ("Bamboo Banger", "Hombre", "Galang", "XR2", "Bird Flu") so I'm not at all ready to say that that is all she does.
Finally, Ma$e is one of the worst things to ever happen to popular music and if you are using him as a positive example of anything, you are wrong.
― DUM DUM DUM DUMMMMM! (HI DERE), Monday, 3 May 2010 18:33 (thirteen years ago) link
Mo M.I.A. Mo Problems
― ksh, Monday, 3 May 2010 18:37 (thirteen years ago) link
xxxxxxpost.
i actually thought the driving force behind paper planes' success was how it repurposed the lyrics from that wrecks-n-effect song. it was a clever nod to past and present culture.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 3 May 2010 18:55 (thirteen years ago) link
"Finally, Ma$e is one of the worst things to ever happen to popular music and if you are using him as a positive example of anything, you are wrong."
even if yr being intentionally dramatic this is ridiculous
― Gifted Unlimited Display Names Universal (deej), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 03:24 (thirteen years ago) link
ma$e was a great pop artist
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 4 May 2010 03:26 (thirteen years ago) link
hes also a good rapper
― Gifted Unlimited Display Names Universal (deej), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 03:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Kid who gets shot in the video: wkiw
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 May 2010 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, that kid is awesome
― it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Monday, 10 May 2010 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link
so does anyone know what mia thinks of joanna newsom?
― call all destroyer, Monday, 10 May 2010 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link
let's ask joni mitchell
― i fake it so real, i am beyonce (surm), Monday, 10 May 2010 20:43 (thirteen years ago) link
Official first single "XXXO":
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00s9wj1
about 25 minutes in.
― nevermind312, Monday, 10 May 2010 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, May 3, 2010 2:55 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
yeah i feel like way more people IDed that part of the song than the fact that it looped an instrumental bit from a Clash song that wasn't "Rock The Casbah" or "Should I Stay Or Should I Go"
― cozen frustard (some dude), Monday, 10 May 2010 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link
woah the Chemical Brothers track before this is fricken HOT
― it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Monday, 10 May 2010 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link
oh and btw fucking love "XXXO" after 3 seconds
I feel like her pop/accessibility factor ramps up by a factor of 10 with each album she puts out.
― it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Monday, 10 May 2010 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Ha - wasn't she just trashing Lady Gaga in a big interview? This sounds like a Lady Gaga b-side. (I liked "Born Free," though).
― Becky Facelift, Monday, 10 May 2010 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link
repurposed the lyrics from that wrecks-n-effect song
never noticed this tbh
― the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 10 May 2010 22:46 (thirteen years ago) link
xxxo isn't doing much for me, though the "you want me be somebody who i'm really not" hook is great. with becky in liking born free a lot better, though it's main point was that vegarev = god.
― contenderizer, Monday, 10 May 2010 22:58 (thirteen years ago) link
is it available in a format that doesn't include me waiting for a podcast to load and skipping forward to 25 minutes in yet?
― samosa gibreel, Monday, 10 May 2010 22:59 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, "radio rips" variously available. suspect/hope that the official version will sound a lot better.
― contenderizer, Monday, 10 May 2010 23:03 (thirteen years ago) link
(xpost) yes:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbKRwnAYPjI&feature=player_embedded#at=60
― the subject of many men’s thoughts (daavid), Monday, 10 May 2010 23:05 (thirteen years ago) link
thanks
― samosa gibreel, Monday, 10 May 2010 23:05 (thirteen years ago) link
lol "hottest record in the world"
― samosa gibreel, Monday, 10 May 2010 23:06 (thirteen years ago) link
this song is more controversial than 'born free'
― samosa gibreel, Monday, 10 May 2010 23:07 (thirteen years ago) link
The intro is killer, but then the rest sounds kind of meh to me. Also slightly bothered than she doesn't seem to be able to catch up with the lyrics, maybe she should have used less "x"s.
― the subject of many men’s thoughts (daavid), Monday, 10 May 2010 23:08 (thirteen years ago) link
the delayed "-oh"s in the second half of the chorus are obv intentional and are good and cool
― samosa gibreel, Monday, 10 May 2010 23:10 (thirteen years ago) link
this is about a million times better than born free though
― the subject of many men’s thoughts (daavid), Monday, 10 May 2010 23:15 (thirteen years ago) link
M.I.A. would probably be disappointed to learn that I like this track so much because it reminds me of Lady Gaga. oof.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 10 May 2010 23:22 (thirteen years ago) link
why does it remind people of lady gaga? omg it's poppy, wow i forgot lady gaga is the only pop artist out today. the production on this track is what really elevates it in my opinion -- at the very least more interesting than anything redone and rob fusari have done. it actually somewhat pains me to have to make that comparison, really.
ps, i do love that chemical brothers track right before it.
― teledyldonix, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 01:10 (thirteen years ago) link
repurposed the lyrics from that wrecks-n-effect songnever noticed this tbh― the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier)
― the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier)
really?
wrecks-n-effect: ALL I WANNA DO IS ZOOM-A-ZOOM ZOOM ZOOM, AND A POOM-POOM, JUST SHAKE YA RUMPmia: ALL I WANNA DO IS (BOOM!-a-BOOM!-a-BOOM!-a-BOOM!) AND (KKKAAA CHING), AND TAKE YA MONEY
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 11 May 2010 01:41 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't hate mia like most of you but man the twitter and iphone references are just like guuuuhhhhh
― rahni, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 01:42 (thirteen years ago) link
yah she also had a more direct rump shaker quote earlier on a bangladesh beat "Hit That"
― zvookster, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 02:02 (thirteen years ago) link
damn, I forgot about "Hit That". such a banger!
― jagger edge (The Reverend), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 02:14 (thirteen years ago) link
that is barely a wrecks n effect reference. "all i wanna do is" is a reference?
no one claimed ppl were RECOGNIZING the clash sample, quite the opposite; its just a super catchy track
― Gifted Unlimited Display Names Universal (deej), Tuesday, 11 May 2010 02:25 (thirteen years ago) link
i thought the parallel was obvious the first time i heard the song. maybe i was mistaken, and that wasn't what mia was going for, but it certainly seemed that way to me (and, as i say, that was the most compelling aspect of the song for me).
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 11 May 2010 02:29 (thirteen years ago) link
it's def a reference, when u see she has history there it's undeniable, but whether a large number of ppl responded to it, well no unless there's some huge collective pop culture subconscious out there that got it, which there isn't.
no one claimed ppl were RECOGNIZING the clash sample
OTM, some ppl who did and who previously said lol mia will neva b popular now said oh well that's just cuz of the clash iirc
― zvookster, Tuesday, 11 May 2010 02:33 (thirteen years ago) link
"xxxo" is really awesome -- hope this is a huge pop hit this summer in the US
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 11 May 2010 02:35 (thirteen years ago) link
it sounds more like annie or something than lady gaga
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 11 May 2010 02:37 (thirteen years ago) link
i think annie should have the first huge US pop hit that sounds just like annie.
― Daniel, Esq., Tuesday, 11 May 2010 02:39 (thirteen years ago) link
both annie and mia are cute tho, so either one can have the hit, i suppose.