i think you're mostly OTM, but i wouldn't mind a little more confidence in my indie
― ksh, Sunday, 2 May 2010 18:23 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean, the "confidence" thing is really a slippery slope because it's really a borderline conspiracy theory -- there are tons of indie bands who aren't doing lo-fi/chillwave who don't sound like sleigh bells/don't produce their music like sleigh bells
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 2 May 2010 18:30 (thirteen years ago) link
it's weird tho--sleigh bells isn't this 100% kicking your ass thing--yeah the production is ridic but she still has a really delicate and girly voice. i think that's the contrast they're working with and a "sleigh bells vs chillwave" narrative makes less sense to me
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 2 May 2010 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link
uh except yall r deaf they *are* a chillwave band?
― plax (ico), Sunday, 2 May 2010 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link
What is this chillwave of which you speak
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 2 May 2010 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link
ok plax, why are they a chillwave band
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 2 May 2010 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i don't see that
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 2 May 2010 19:48 (thirteen years ago) link
neither does plaxico
― ksh, Sunday, 2 May 2010 19:50 (thirteen years ago) link
classic sample+lo-fi laptop production "post Ariel Pink" indie. like i dunno how specific the def. of chillwave is that something that incorporates all the elements would be set up as in like opposition to the rest of it. I mean, i feel like this straight up sampling thing still has enough of a novelty factor attached to it in the contxt of Modern Indie that it functions pretty well as a classificatory signifier. also, shit sounds like an aggro washed out.
― plax (ico), Sunday, 2 May 2010 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link
i feel like chillwave = music you fall asleep to, and sleigh bells is certainly not that
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 2 May 2010 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link
obv its the opposite end of the continuum from like Julian Lynch for eg but i mean
― plax (ico), Sunday, 2 May 2010 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean u r deaf if sleigh bells is "chillwave" because they use samples and laptops?
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 2 May 2010 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link
i do think they are pretty lol in a "hey i can't find any dece rips of ur tracks" "no that is our sound" way
sayin they use samples in a lo-fi indie way, that is simple loop, semi-recognisable (the dreams of the passt) w. melody sung on top.
― plax (ico), Sunday, 2 May 2010 19:58 (thirteen years ago) link
the guy at Sam's club that gives out samples probably has a laptop at home too, so he's also chillwave
― ksh, Sunday, 2 May 2010 19:58 (thirteen years ago) link
BIG LAUGHS aka the joketeller over here
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 2 May 2010 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link
tape store played a song for me off this today and all i could say was "stunning"
― la senora (surm), Sunday, 2 May 2010 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link
they sound like Atari Teenage Riot doing soulless pop
― Zeno, Sunday, 2 May 2010 20:00 (thirteen years ago) link
its not like im saying they use guitars so they are rock, they use an instrument in a way that is contiguous w. standard chillwave practice to make a sound that is basically like an slightly bitcrushed vers. of same
― plax (ico), Sunday, 2 May 2010 20:01 (thirteen years ago) link
i dunno the songs i've heard have way more slammin beats and distorted guitars than some chillwave bullshit but whatev
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 2 May 2010 20:02 (thirteen years ago) link
i think they violate the central tenant of chillwave, which would be "chill"
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 2 May 2010 20:03 (thirteen years ago) link
if glo fi had stuck none of u would b arguing w. me except for ksh
― plax (ico), Sunday, 2 May 2010 20:04 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i mean plax you're hearing them structurally not viscerally which is fine i guess but wouldn't be my go-to move in this particular discussion
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 2 May 2010 20:04 (thirteen years ago) link
btw why have i never heard of these ppl before? is this one of those things that i've slept on but rly their whole catalog is great or something?
― la senora (surm), Sunday, 2 May 2010 20:04 (thirteen years ago) link
they are new
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 2 May 2010 20:05 (thirteen years ago) link
oh
― la senora (surm), Sunday, 2 May 2010 20:05 (thirteen years ago) link
don't have an album out yet
i dig this song tho fwiw -- album should be fun, i won't be mad if it's a big indie album this year
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 2 May 2010 20:05 (thirteen years ago) link
ha ramz, their catalog = 3 songs
scared to listen on headphones tho
omg i did this morning! loved it!
― la senora (surm), Sunday, 2 May 2010 20:06 (thirteen years ago) link
i listen to crown on the ground on phones, it's no big thing
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 2 May 2010 20:06 (thirteen years ago) link
"this is sonic the hedgehog on acid in an indie band, i can't not be happy hearing this... seriously ... this could get me dancing at a funeral"
― ksh, Sunday, 2 May 2010 20:07 (thirteen years ago) link
the one i heard is "tell em"
it really grabbed ahold of me!
― la senora (surm), Sunday, 2 May 2010 20:07 (thirteen years ago) link
have listened to wolf eyes on headphones, but i was pretty depressed then.
― plax (ico), Sunday, 2 May 2010 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link
did these guys have a christmas song out at one point or am i making that shit up
― la senora (surm), Sunday, 2 May 2010 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link
plaxico, i get what you were arguing for above, but chillwave has certain vibe it's going for that's absent from Sleigh Bells . . . so what J0rdan said above, basically
― ksh, Sunday, 2 May 2010 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q77Zu75JtY
― ksh, Sunday, 2 May 2010 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link
so, there's a track called "Rill Rill" on the record, but no "Ring Ring"
1. "Tell 'Em"2. "Kids"3. "Riot Rhythm"4. "Infinity Guitars"5. "Run the Heart"6. "Rachel"7. "Rill Rill"8. "Crown On the Ground"9. "Straight A's"10. "A/B Machines"11. "Treats"
(http://altmusic.about.com/b/2010/04/29/sleigh-bells-unveil-treats-track-list-cover-art.htm)
also feel like there is a certain inherent disssonance in chillwave, left over from its spiritual forefathers of like ariel pink, panda bear, that these guys are just more explicit abt.
― plax (ico), Sunday, 2 May 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link
might be clearance issues w/ the "ring ring" sample
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 2 May 2010 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link
hopefully--that song just does not really work
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 2 May 2010 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link
i feel like the spiritual forefathers of sleigh bells are marnie stern & ponytail, and also like... run dmc & salt n pepa
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 2 May 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link
eh maybe, theres no real point having this argument
― plax (ico), Sunday, 2 May 2010 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link
really, what is the point of anything
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 2 May 2010 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link
I finally listened to like five secs of ring ring and lolllllllllllllllllllllll
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Sunday, 2 May 2010 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY_0QReTPkc
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Sunday, 2 May 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link
^ oh man, i love that jam so much. used to be on MTV all the time in, like, 98
― ksh, Sunday, 2 May 2010 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link
dude you should check out this remix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUKCQfLY7nQ
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Sunday, 2 May 2010 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link
looooool
― ksh, Sunday, 2 May 2010 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link