Oh boy, ILX! That's where I'm a viking!..?

i'm not sure it was all about that, but yeah that's an unnecessary line imo.

troll gets trolled story at 11

No, that doesn't make them more correct, why are you shifting the argument? I'm explaining to you why A people appear so evangelical to you.

xxp you do realising you're on the same side of a minority opinion with truongmos, tho? it doesn't bother that dude, that due is always ice-cool, so take a leaf out of his book. watch and learn.

ehh the argument is borderline racist imo & there are few things that piss me off more than racism (my SB record will support that)

some dude was out of order imo. B still the better answer tho.

No, that doesn't make them more correct, why are you shifting the argument? I'm explaining to you why A people appear so evangelical to you.

You haven't explained why A people are "100% sure it is wrong" though. How can they be so sure? Where does their entitlement come from?

hipsters, accusations of racism, this thread now has it all

http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/images/dotherightthinglovedaddy.jpg

Yo! Hold up! Time out! TIME OUT! Y'all take a chill! Ya need to cool that shit out! And that's the double truth, Ruth!

There's about 767 posts explaining that, Tuomas. You're just unwilling to accept the arguments.

darraghmac you know I've been pretty cool on this thread but sorry I just got really offended at some dude's "english motherfucker, do you speak it" argument & I say this as a guy who rarely loses his cool, ever

― I Think Ur a Viking (dyao), Friday, April 30, 2010 10:46 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i'm sorry if you think i crossed a line by forcing the issue but it seems odd NOT to point out that it's "interesting" (or at least more "interesting" than the aww the B people are so sure of themselves because their arrogant big meanies theory)

fwiw i have no idea what race you are and afaik am the same race as tuomas for all intents and purposes

There's about 767 posts explaining that, Tuomas. You're just unwilling to accept the arguments.

No more unwilling than you are.

this man is a pro

Exactly Tuomas!

some dude I really see no point in you even mentioning this point considering I am from the same culture as you, and if you really think it's an 'interesting' point you might as well throw away all your rap music criticism (as good as it is)

tuomas, are you willing to concede that there is a correct answer to this?

"that's where I'm a [champion]" just sounds like a borderline nonsensical malapropism that would be far more likely made by someone learning a second language (or someone who's been on the internet reading wacky phrases like "for the win" and "an hero" for too long) than a child

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/tracerhand/12304045985t78.gif

if i told editors "writing, that's where I'm a professional!" i'd get even less work than i get now, i'm pretty sure

great point

would lock this thread so hard

dyao, i don't think it's necessarily racist to point out that a non-native speaker of english might be more prone to pick up the meaning of a joke in an english programme incorrectly. seriously, after 700 posts it was an avenue that probably had gone unasked for quite a while.

i'm not assuming anything about your level of english, and i know from years of arguing nonsense with him that tuomas's is excellent, even if i think he's a master troll.

Anyway, it's May Day, a big drinking festival here in Finland, sadly I have to leave this thread in order to party some. I probably won't be on the net before Sunday, it'll be interesting to see whether the debate is still going on then.

(several x-posts)

results of other internet poll

"I dream I'm a viking" (171) 64.77%
"I'm a champion sleeper" (93) 35.23%

― nagl that's where ur a viking (cozen), Wednesday, 28 April 2010 16:42

Now at:
"I dream I'm a viking" (183) 65.59%
"I'm a champion sleeper" (96) 34.41%

so 13-3 to the Bs since Cozen posted the link.

uh 12-3

can we do "is goofy a dog or cow?" next

omg YES

ilx is gonna get fewer a voters than that I bet

by Sunday you'll be able to tell us how important the 15% or 25% of votes sharing your opinion are (xpost)

dyao, i don't think it's necessarily racist to point out that a non-native speaker of english might be more prone to pick up the meaning of a joke in an english programme incorrectly. seriously, after 700 posts it was an avenue that probably had gone unasked for quite a while.

i'm not assuming anything about your level of english, and i know from years of arguing nonsense with him that tuomas's is excellent, even if i think he's a master troll.

― just darraghmac tbh (darraghmac), Friday, April 30, 2010 10:57 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

it's not the whole native/non-native distinction that bothers me (the more correct term that I think everybody is fishing for is fluency) it's the insinuation that if you're not part of a culture your judgments about that culture are open to being considered less valid & less correct. imo tuomas is fluent, native-level, and obviously spends a lot of time interacting w/ american culture, and to attack his argument based on the grounds that he is from Finland is pretty ethnocentric if you ask me

hyvää vappua, Tuomas!

"that's where I'm a 'champion' " just sounds like a borderline nonsensical malapropism

so wait it's the phrasing in itself that's odd not just the fact that "viking" is not a granted metaphor for being good at something? all this time i thought the latter was the argument here

he also is known for being the dude who asks stuff like "why are there so many helicopters in america?'

i'm not saying that's the reason you guys are wrong. i'm saying it's interesting enough to be worth mentioning that the 2 biggest vikings of option A have that in common. i said it, there's not much more to say imo, but you can continue to dwell on it and pontificate on what kind of person that makes me if you like.

dyao is american, some dude

it's the insinuation that if you're not part of a culture your judgments about that culture are open to being considered less valid & less correct.

see, i'll actually not agree with you there. this is actually a 'right or wrong' issue imo, so not all judgements are 360-degrees valid.

imo tuomas is fluent, native-level, and obviously spends a lot of time interacting w/ american culture, and to attack his argument based on the grounds that he is from Finland is pretty ethnocentric if you ask me

read ur blogs, mayne. read ur blogs. I'm not gonna talk about Tuomas like he's not here, and imo he's a total viking of ILX, but he's got huge amounts of previous in not getting fairly simple/well accepted concepts that very few others of ANY culture struggle with.

"that's where I'm a 'champion' " just sounds like a borderline nonsensical malapropism

so wait it's the phrasing in itself that's odd not just the fact that "viking" is not a granted metaphor for being good at something? all this time i thought the latter was the argument here

― sonderangerbot, Friday, April 30, 2010 11:04 AM (38 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

the latter is the main argument, but I'm just saying even if you try to wrap your head around the metaphor thing, actually looking at the sentence that way is pretty sketchy. you think we can't dissect this thing on more than one level after 1k posts?

dyao makes a very valid point; Tuomas's fluency is better than many Americans

that doesn't mean his interpretation makes the slightest lick of sense tho

so wait it's the phrasing in itself that's odd not just the fact that "viking" is not a granted metaphor for being good at something? all this time i thought the latter was the argument here

every tribe here is made up of a myriad of villages, some more sensible than others

xp: holy lol are ppl actually buying the "English is not dyao's first language" thing????? shine on you crazy thread

Yeah, I mean, you may as well just throw me out of the discussion too - - - I was born in Florida and did my book-learnin' in pathetic, backwards, non-fluent Georgia, so obviously I could have no legitimate opinion on the content of "The Simpsons," a show written by Ivy Leaguers and then broadcast to an audience of millions and millions of Americans and Finns. But maybe someone can review my past posting history and find proof that actually I do deserve the right to an opinion on a cartoon show.

iatee i know nothing about dyao, i based my comment on Tuomas saying he was a non-native English speaker before someone pointed out that that's apparently not correct.

read ur blogs, mayne. read ur blogs. I'm not gonna talk about Tuomas like he's not here, and imo he's a total viking of ILX, but he's got huge amounts of previous in not getting fairly simple/well accepted concepts that very few others of ANY culture struggle with.

― just darraghmac tbh (darraghmac), Friday, April 30, 2010 11:05 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

I've lurked here for some years and have always felt Tuomas gets the short end of the stick so, remembering scratching my head when he got 51'd

and imo he's a total viking of ILX

He is an intrepid viking staring into the vast seas of mystery.

imo he's a total viking of ilx, but when he got sb'd it was because he 'didn't get' something for 1500 posts iirc.

anyway according to some dude's rule I'm an ivy-leaguer therefore I am more qualified than almost everybody else on this thread to interpret this question and I say it's A lock thread I win

wow i wish this thread didn't go native/non-native.

it should have stuck with duh/smart imo, less fraught with danger

xp!

I'm an Ivy Leaguer and I say it's B

although really the answer is C

i reckon it's a poll thread, and those found to have voted the losing option don't have any say in ILX for four years.

re: non-native thing: consequence of B people trying to figure out why in the world otherwise intelligent folks would go with A. let's be cool.