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speaking of sinead o'connor, i don't own a thing by her but every time i hear "the last day of our acquaintance" (3 or 4 times to date) i turn into a deer in the headlights.

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 20:08 (eighteen years ago) link

ten months pass...
I've heard Ashlee Simpson's "Shadow" hundreds of times by now; the way she sings it goes from anger to triumph, basically; I never experience the song as sad. So, a couple months ago - alone in my apartment - I imagined reciting the lyrics to some people (because it's amazing how many people don't know this song exists or have any fucking idea what Ashlee Simpson lyrics tend to be like). And I wondered to myself whether I actually knew the song by heart, and I started reciting it. And by the second couplet my throat was constricted and my voice was breaking. "My escape was hiding out and running for the door" - which is hardly the most tearjerking lyric (compare to Kelly Clarkson's unremitting despair in "Because of You," which I can recite with equanimity: "I watched you die I heard you cry every night in your sleep/I was so young you should've known better than to lean on me..." etc.), and anyway I knew that "Shadow" was the one family drama song with a happy ending. But something reached me - maybe the fact that I knew Ashlee was determined to make the song one of growth and reconciliation somehow made it sadder; but only coming from my mouth, not hers. Several days later I was at a coffeehouse with a friend who knew nothing of "Shadow," and I started reciting the lyrics to her, believing that I was safe now, not imagining I would choke up again. But my voice was wavering before I got through the first stanza, and I decided that that was enough.

My brother and I got along uncommonly well as children, and my parents didn't neglect me for him, so I'm not drawing on that particular experience. I guess there's the universal feeling of being misunderstood. But actually, when Ashlee addresses that - "So if you're listening, there's so much more to me you haven't seen" - she's lovable: nakedly vulnerable yet audacious.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 26 June 2006 05:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Whenever I hear the Indigo Girls version of "Romeo & Juliet", it causes lachrymose episodes.

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Monday, 26 June 2006 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

seven months pass...
The first time I heard 'Back for Good' by Take That, I'd fallen asleep with the radio on, and while I was drifting out of this 'emotional' dream at about 3am the music made me cry.

a nuclear-powered carrot (braveclub), Thursday, 1 February 2007 14:51 (seventeen years ago) link

hmmm

i was feeling anxious and uneasy the other day and put on my bloody valentine's 'lose my breath'. it somehow made me feel even more upset.

Charlie Howard (the sphinx), Thursday, 1 February 2007 14:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Watching some old Chart Show clips on youtube i was pleased to find one from late Summer '89 that i remember seeing at the time with the 'next week' song played over the credit sequence being Madonna's 'Cherish'. As Madge frolics in the sparkling but monochromatic surf, the Video Visuals caption comes up to signify the most perfect period of the week, Saturday morning, is over - forever and another seven days. And I was just about to start secondary school in another week or two. Thanks for the preserved and replayed memories magic interweb.

vita susicivus (blueski), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I didn't know what to expect: I put on Coltrane's Meditations for the first time, with only minor acquaintance with his music, and within about a minute of "The Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost" I was thrashing around the room in tears. I still can't put my finger on what I was feeling. It wasn't sadness, if anything it was intense joy, but even that's not how to put it. Whatever, it was intense.

Euler (Euler), Thursday, 1 February 2007 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...
Oh christ, this morning:

Abba - The Day Before You Came

I'd never really understood the sentiment behind this song but it came on randomly just as I'd woken up getting ready to go to work. Having split up with someone only a few weeks ago and slowly piecing together certain bits of my life and getting back on top of things, it totally struck me how this song is about exactly this. How for the singer, her life had been humdrum before she met her lover, and now that he's gone she is made to go back to that existence. Anyway, the dark tones of the music, the vocal delivery - it kinda cracked me a bit.

the next grozart, Thursday, 5 April 2007 11:33 (seventeen years ago) link

tori amos, "winter". i remember lying in bed listening to "little earthquakes" at age 14 and crying crying crying. ten years later and it still does it to me. i heard it a few weeks ago at a friend's house and got verclempt.

which is why i was wondering why four tet's "unspoken" made me get so emotional the first few times i'd heard it, until i realized he was sampling that song.

Emily Bjurnhjam, Thursday, 5 April 2007 14:46 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

t.A.T.u., "Show Me Love":

"Like a game of pick-up sticks / played by f#*!ing lunatics"

Dunno why, ambushed every time.

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 13 December 2008 02:24 (fifteen years ago) link

The break in Chrissie Hynde's voice on the line "won't let nobody hurt you" in "I'll Stand By You" always brings a lump to my throat.

The perfect combination of song and movie can really mess me up. I know a lot of people hate it, but the Aimee Mann "Wise Up" segment in Magnolia is achingly, beautifully sad. Hell, I get choked up at the end of Koyaanisqatsi.

On the joyful end, during the live performance of "Ain't No Mountain High Enough" by Chaka Khan and Montell Jordan in the Standing in the Shadow of Motown documentary, when the band hits that crescendo and the gospel choir enters...tearful bliss.

Hideous Lump, Saturday, 13 December 2008 04:27 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Radio 2 are right now playing a song by ACKER BILK. He has just started singing. It is a good thing Robin C is not listening, or he might be getting very angry!!

the pinefox, Saturday, 24 January 2009 09:27 (fifteen years ago) link

"was that the trees-a-rustlin'? Or the hinges of the gate?/Or Ernie's ghostly gold-tops a-rattlin' in their crate?"

the pinefox, Saturday, 24 January 2009 09:30 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

They played Acker Bilk on Radio 2 last night!

the pinefox, Monday, 9 February 2009 15:54 (fifteen years ago) link

acker bilk was on local news last week, he has just celebrated his 80th birthday (i think).

mark e, Monday, 9 February 2009 16:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Little April Showers from the Bambi Soundtrack recently on a TV ad, kills me totally.

MaresNest, Monday, 9 February 2009 18:42 (fifteen years ago) link

four years pass...

In my elementary school there was this "popular" kid I'll just call Matt. Matt was tall, athletic, liked by girls, etc. etc. I was unathletic and somewhat picked on in school, and he was among a group of kids that sometimes picked on me. He wasn't the worst of the bunch, but he was mean sometimes, and I resented him very much, in part just because of that cosmic unfairness of there being a tall, charismatic, athletic blonde guy who everyone liked, while of course so few people saw all of MY obvious good qualities, or didn't appreciate my intelligence, yada yada, bitter nerd stuff etc.

When we were in fourth or fifth grade, his father suddenly passed away. I remember my parents said something to me about how I should offer my condolences to him. I remember it seemed like the whole grade was abuzz with his father's death. I think in my resentment I imagined that if *my* father died, people wouldn't be acting as sad about it, this was all just because he was popular! Part of me still knew the right thing to do would be to just go and say "I'm sorry about your father Matt." But I kept thinking about doing it and then backing away, and in the end, I never said a word.

I doubt if he even kept track of who offered him condolences or ever noticed I didn't, but this bothered me for a long time after, and I felt very guilty about it, although I never really knew the guy past seventh or eighth grade and eventually forgot it completely.

Today I was browsing facebook, and it suggested him in the "people you may know" category, and I clicked out of curiosity. There are pictures of him, looking like a very regular adult dude with his wife, and he has a toddler, about my daughter's age. Somehow when I saw this I started to tear up. I almost want to message the guy and say something about it, but the last time someone did one of those "long lost apology" things to me, it was just out of nowhere and totally surprising.

signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Friday, 17 January 2014 21:07 (ten years ago) link

i get this, to a degree. i felt the "bitter nerd stuff etc." in jr. high and high school.

you're a better person than me, because i don't think i'd have had later regrets about failing to offer condolences. i have thought, in retrospect, that maybe some of the injustices done to me were the product of my imagination, or exaggerated in my mind because of my own insecurities. but they felt bad enough to me, at the time, that they lingered in my mind long into my adulthood, and even remain today. hard to forgive or forget, i've found, even if i've been blessed with a lot of good things since that should make me let go of past grievances.

Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 17 January 2014 21:14 (ten years ago) link

I felt more guilty about my inner justifications for not saying anything than for not saying anything.

signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Friday, 17 January 2014 21:17 (ten years ago) link

Like my perceived slights were somehow bigger than the fact that this kid lost his dad.

signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Friday, 17 January 2014 21:17 (ten years ago) link

fair enough. but that doesn't undo the slights, or lessen their impact on you, either. people -- even high school tormentors -- are complicated.

Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 17 January 2014 21:18 (ten years ago) link

The thing is I wouldn't call this kid in particular my "tormentor." He was a popular kid, and he probably said mean stuff to me more than a few times, but I saw him more generally as being of that group that I felt excluded and rejected me. It's not like he was beating me up and stuffing me into lockers all the time though.

signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Friday, 17 January 2014 21:22 (ten years ago) link

i'm usually willing to give myself and everybody else a free pass for any perceived moral failings done before, say, age 14? not sure where the upper limit is but slighting this kid in 4th or 5th grade definitely isn't a big deal. (a tangential question i often think of us whether kids are really morally responsible for anything) though i can totally identify with getting that sudden onset of emotion from something that previously seemed really buried.

marcos, Friday, 17 January 2014 21:34 (ten years ago) link

I think it was also the combo of "this guy lost his dad and now is a dad" and "he has a kid my kid's age" combined with the other stuff

signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Friday, 17 January 2014 21:35 (ten years ago) link

a tangential question i often think of us whether kids are really morally responsible for anything

yeah, they definitely can be, at a certain age. the 13 year-old who set fire to his classmate, because it seemed funny. the 15 year-old who tells another girl, via social media, to kill herself. the army of kids who bully and torment their peers.

Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 17 January 2014 21:39 (ten years ago) link

i realize these are extreme examples, but they're also valid examples.

Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 17 January 2014 21:39 (ten years ago) link

idk, I knew what the right thing to do was and I didn't do it. I don't see how that's not enough for moral responsibility.

signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Friday, 17 January 2014 21:39 (ten years ago) link

i get your point, don't misunderstand. fwiw, and from a distance, i think you're being too hard on yourself.

Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 17 January 2014 21:40 (ten years ago) link

I think I probably would have been about equally as much a dick/nice guy in elementary school as this guy was if I had been in his position. I don't think I was actually an especially nice guy. I was polite and smart, but I had lots of my own insensitivity and selfishness, still do.

signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Friday, 17 January 2014 21:44 (ten years ago) link

xp yea i think when it gets into teenage years i don't really know, it get's complicated since teens are in such a weird mix of childhood and adulthood. like i said i don't know the upper limit. but when i reflect on guilt or embarrassment i still feel from stuff that i did in my youth, i try to really think about whether i was really responsible at all. i mean, how morally developed is a 12-year old? like what was empty or lacking in my life as a kid that made me treat someone a particular way, you know? kids may have a moral sensibility but it's totally undeveloped and i'm not sure it's clear that that translates to a moral responsibility. fwiw i have zero expertise in child psychology or moral psychology.

marcos, Friday, 17 January 2014 21:47 (ten years ago) link

i have zero expertise in child psychology or moral psychology

me, either. i speak only from my own experiences and as the father of a 12 -- soon to be 13 -- year old daughter, who i worry about all the time, even if she seems so much more emotionally together than i did at her age.

Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 17 January 2014 21:50 (ten years ago) link

(as i sometimes say, my invisible child psychology degree hangs framed on the wall, next to my invisible engineering degree.)

Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 17 January 2014 21:51 (ten years ago) link

when I analyze it, I think part of my emotion is the feeling of wanting to let go of all that resentment

signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Friday, 17 January 2014 21:59 (ten years ago) link

three years pass...

my ford KA -- in the family since 1999, mainly used by a friend the last 2xyrs -- just went off to be cubed

i am not a wreck but i am sad: in 2007 i travelled the vertical length of france and back in that trusty little thing w/o mishap (lol except for backing into someone and scrunching up their driver's door in the languedoc hamlet of ASPIRAN)

mark s, Saturday, 3 June 2017 14:59 (six years ago) link

five months pass...

when the saxes come in on this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oanAeie_Tag

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Monday, 13 November 2017 05:14 (six years ago) link

In about 2006 I saw Brian Wilson and the Wondermints doing the rejigged Smile in Sydney. It was all beautifully performed and Brian himself was kind of a curio on stage, present but not quite, as the elaborate music unfolded around him. Then they started "Surf's Up" and it suddenly hit me that this man's life had been a shattered wreck from the time he wrote this song until now, and here he was performing it in all its glory as an aged, frail man, it just hit me like a hammer and I bawled in my seat.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Monday, 13 November 2017 05:23 (six years ago) link

So there I am, cleaning my kitchen on a Saturday afternoon, decided to have a little nostalgia trip by putting on Parklife. Singing along to 'To The End' I hear my voice crack and before I know it I'm standing in the middle of the room weeping.. Sometimes you think you're over someone..

FREEZE! FYI! (dog latin), Saturday, 25 November 2017 13:29 (six years ago) link

Surfs Up is such a masterpiece, so much feeling

calstars, Saturday, 25 November 2017 15:00 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

Meadow Soprano graduating high school. She reminds me of my daughter.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 10 March 2019 05:26 (five years ago) link

Bawled.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 10 March 2019 05:26 (five years ago) link

A couple of months ago I found a nice little animation that Queen had made for when they reissued News Of The World, for the song "All Dead, All Dead", I never realised it was about Brian May's long-gone childhood pet cat, because I'm colossally soft and the little cat in the animation is very sweet, I just broke into bits out of nowhere.

MaresNest, Sunday, 10 March 2019 13:57 (five years ago) link

five months pass...

https://bsmrocks.bandcamp.com/album/i-spent-the-winter-writing-songs-about-getting-better

in 'white sheep':


I hate myself for feeling this way
'Cause if my dad showed me anything, it's that anyone can change
He went from always angry, smoking a pack a day
To calling me up to say he’s proud of the life that I made

i'm havin a fuckin cat's in the cradle moment over here or something

j., Tuesday, 20 August 2019 19:56 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

When I first heard the choir thunder in on the chorus towards the end of Selena Gomez's otherwise ordinary 'Lose You To Love Me' I had a serious moment. Although the real lip wobbler for me last year was Shura's 'Tommy'.

nashwan, Monday, 6 January 2020 12:14 (four years ago) link

That bit in Lumpy Gravy about 9 mins in with Motorhead Sherwood talking about what jobs he had, there's all these background voices come in, then the sound of doors slamming for no reason and the doors make me really, really anxious.

Maresn3st, Monday, 6 January 2020 14:47 (four years ago) link

Alameda, Elliott Smith, 7/31/1997 @ the Knitting Factory. but right now. the bootleg. It's a great show

flappy bird, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 05:33 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

I knew there was eventually going to be a song that would tip me over the edge. Honestly, never in a million years did I think that song would be 'November Rain'.

Matt DC, Friday, 27 March 2020 13:50 (four years ago) link

The third guitar solo represents the winter epidemic long after the peak.

Matt DC, Friday, 27 March 2020 13:51 (four years ago) link

In 2001 my girlfriend and I took a road trip from our home near Houston to San Jose to scout out places to live in anticipation of an impending move for grad school. This was going to be the first time that I had left my family and our close circle of friends and there had been endless going away parties and shit. I was excited and handling things pretty well, although in the back of my mind things were sort of jittery. Towards the end of the time in San Jose we went to see AI, the Spielberg/Kubrick movie. Liked it well enough but I felt sort of odd afterwards. When we walked out of the theater and got into our vehicle I broke down hard and couldn't talk well enough to explain what was happening. Gasping sobbing ugly crying. I was a total wreck for about an hour. I guess the little boy/robot being separated from his family is what triggered the episode, but it wasn't that I found the movie terribly sad or even compelling. It just happened to be the key that unlocked all the junk in my head.

We had somewhere we had to be in San Francisco and my lady had to drive because I was incapable. I remember laying on the bench seat in the truck with my head on her lap just like I did with my mom when I was little.

I can't really remember if I liked the movie that much and I periodically think about revisiting it but I turn chicken every time.

Cow_Art, Friday, 27 March 2020 14:51 (four years ago) link

Bowie at the end of Jojo Rabbit broke me.

Hideous Lump, Saturday, 28 March 2020 05:58 (four years ago) link

I’ve knowingly only cried 3 times to a piece of music. But the three culprits make me somewhat ashamed so I’ll never tell.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 28 March 2020 06:08 (four years ago) link


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