Lindstrom & Prins Thomas are the shit

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i loved all that nuphonic / idjuts stuff - still do but i think 'i feel space' is from a different place really.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Thursday, 5 January 2006 23:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I wish Run, would just keep going, on and on...

Jacobs (LolVStein), Thursday, 5 January 2006 23:14 (eighteen years ago) link

You mean it would keep running?

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 5 January 2006 23:22 (eighteen years ago) link

yep

Jacobs (LolVStein), Thursday, 5 January 2006 23:40 (eighteen years ago) link

the record isn't that hyped, i thought it kinda s(t)ank.

jed_ (jed), Friday, 6 January 2006 00:27 (eighteen years ago) link

i loved all that nuphonic / idjuts stuff - still do but i think 'i feel space' is from a different place really.
-- stirmonster (jd_*!!!!...), January 5th, 2006 3:13 PM. (stirmonster)

yes but there are DEFINITE connections ... FOR EXAMPLE "country clonk" was on nuphonic ... and featured on the same "nuphonic 01" compilation as "in the trees" and "flim flam" ... also "country clonk" is essentially a cover of dinosaur's "kiss me again" ... hmmm ...

vahid (vahid), Friday, 6 January 2006 02:18 (eighteen years ago) link

"Horseback" - just love that title.

Jena (JenaP), Friday, 6 January 2006 08:27 (eighteen years ago) link

"OK "i feel space" is fine (if you missed out on faze action and yellow sox and the rest of the great lost first and second wave of space-disco on nuphonic and u-star and versatile and discfunction and repap in the first place) but this album ... GAH ... it really IS fila brazilia all over again! "

Vahid I have and love both the first two Faze Action albums (although I think I prefer "Moving Cities" to "In The Trees", in fact "Moving Cities" is prob my favourite arty revivalist disco track ever ever ever) but I don't hear so much of an overlap b/w them and L&PT that it would somehow undermine the hype surrounding the latter. It would be like dismissing Basement Jaxx on the basis that Armand Van Helden had already been around and doing his thing.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 6 January 2006 12:07 (eighteen years ago) link

I mean, I do see yr point, but I think what i always liked about Faze Action was how clean and clear and crisp their sound was, like all the different instruments are soloing in different rooms and then being assembled together without being aware of it to great this really glistening, open and airy effect (i always thought the architectural allusions on the cover of the first album were very apt).

Whereas with L&PT it's definitely the swirl and swelter effect I like, the way the different melodic motifs seems to emerge out of one another as if they're dissolving and precipitating while you listen.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 6 January 2006 13:10 (eighteen years ago) link

(I can definitely see the resemblance with something like "In & Out" though)

(and Plans & Designs is better than Moving Cities despite the brilliance of the latter's title track)

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 6 January 2006 13:16 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm totally busy today,so all i'll say is --it continues to be very back in forth with these guys for me. and i bought some record by Lindstrom or that's Lindstrom related (it had some other name on it but it was in their section and someone had written on it "AKA LINDSTROM = DOPE!"), over the weekend and i'm totally excited to listen to it at some point. ok, maybe i even bought 2 and one is proper lindstrom and thomas (but it had some sort of lettering w/ wood siding type inlay that seemed like a possible bad omen but i tried not to jump to conclusions). i have to figure out what i have and listen to it. my house is a trash heap.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Friday, 6 January 2006 17:39 (eighteen years ago) link

it had some other name on it but it was in their section and someone had written on it "AKA LINDSTROM = DOPE!"

Ummm...aren't you in SF? And did you buy this CD at Amoeba?

I smell the handiwork of Heywood Jablomi!!!!!

[tuvan throat singer's profound lyric sheet-must read again] (nordicskilla), Friday, 6 January 2006 18:35 (eighteen years ago) link

yes. that's pretty funny. maybe he can now tell me what i bought, b/c its buried beneath a bunch of crap and i really don't know the lineage of any of these people so I bought it b/c of his little note and now i'm gonna come get him if its crap!

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Friday, 6 January 2006 18:41 (eighteen years ago) link

the album with the wood siding inlay is the lindstrøm & prins thomas eponymous album on eskimo, i'm pretty sure. go here: http://www.eskimorecordings.com/site.php?section=eskimo and click on artist albums to see. i think it's great.

i had only ever heard of i feel space so i can't really think it's hyped at all.

lf, Friday, 6 January 2006 19:02 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm trying to write a "most overhyped record of year" thing about this for my neglected blog, but i barely even understand why people are hyping this in the first place, which is making it really hard to explain how it's been over-hyped.

Vahid why do you even bother, this album has got mixed reviews everywhere. It's been very low key, is "over hyped" now anyone actually liking an album you don't?

Also, "I Feel Space" isn't on it.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 6 January 2006 19:03 (eighteen years ago) link

that single is ETERNAL and PERFECT like the first NEU album or like "in the light of the miracle". we'll see if people remember lindstrom a year from now.

As for this, are you not better than this?

Why not just tell us to listen to fucking Revolver instead.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 6 January 2006 19:05 (eighteen years ago) link

that's it!-i think that's the one i wanted ages ago too, so yay! (this is so sad)

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Friday, 6 January 2006 19:05 (eighteen years ago) link

(oh yeah and this album is talked about so little here that the minute I saw the thread in the new answers with 25 comments I knew some of them would be Vahid's one man mission!)

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 6 January 2006 19:06 (eighteen years ago) link

if a band/artist make a big impression on enough people then opinions about them spread and morph like gossip....there's always some hype going on at that point and esp. for an artist whose work if somewhat inaccessible or new b/c there's more that can be assumed/projected. i'd say there are enough folks into L&T/L&T are obscure enough to generate hype amongst people who listen to this kind of music-and is natural. the hype phenomenon bugging Vahid is his issue. it sorta bugs me sometimes, but i don't care if it does or does not bug others. but i want to stop procrastinating.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Friday, 6 January 2006 19:32 (eighteen years ago) link

fascinating.

cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Friday, 6 January 2006 19:35 (eighteen years ago) link

album is very mixed for me - maybe a little too passive in spots for me to want to hear it a ton. however, the opener (forelopig bit) is one of my favorite things from last year, period.

Dominique (dleone), Friday, 6 January 2006 19:35 (eighteen years ago) link

i meant to say: L&T are obscure enough and the ratio of folks talking about them to # of people who listen to this kind of music is also enough to generate hype

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Friday, 6 January 2006 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link

susan otm.

this time last year, lindstrom was pretty much unknown. i think all the 'hype' has come from a grass roots level caused by more and more people hearing his music. the fact that l&t are so prolific has certainly aided this but neither feedelity nor eskimo have really pushed the releases at all. there has been hardly any advertising, editorial or interviews, at least as far as i've seen. i think they just arrived to fill a gap at the exact right time. much as i love the idjuts, i feel they had been coasting for eons.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Friday, 6 January 2006 21:08 (eighteen years ago) link

OTM w/r/t the idjuts. And current Faze Action have obviously gone in a totally different direction. Not only are L&PT filling a space in that sense, but the co-ordinates of the space are different b/c of what surrounds it.

Obv. if you're opposed to micro/electro/etc. house then the notion of all these Tiefschwarz etc. fans suddenly getting into Lindstrom will prob. be offensive, but the fact remains that stuff like "I Feel Space" fulfills a very specific and effective function in the context of a harder electro-ish mix.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 6 January 2006 23:35 (eighteen years ago) link

new Lindstrom single in the new year on Feedelity, "Another Station" with a Todd Terje remix - it's good, but it's not immediately amazing like so much of his other stuff has been. growing on me though.

plus this news for anyone who isn't on the Feedelity mailing list:

new L&PT single, dunno which label, due in Feb. called "Mighty Girl"
new remixes of Roxy Music(!), Franz Ferdinand, & Allez Allez soon
Feedelity on iTunes soon

something less threatening (heywood), Monday, 9 January 2006 19:22 (eighteen years ago) link

l&pt remixes of roxy music? wtf!

cutty (mcutt), Monday, 9 January 2006 19:52 (eighteen years ago) link

does anyone else hear similarities to LCD in Lindstrom's stuff? Not the electro-ness part, but the warm-ish, live instrumentation doing disco + handclaps + retro percussion thing. Terje also, though really, he kind of goes over into almost acid jazz at times (I actually loved his take on Michael Jackson's "I Can't Help It"). sometimes it does seem like a spacey, Scandanavian take on LCD Soundsystem to me (TS: "Yr City's A Sucker" vs "I Feel Space"), and partially explains why he might be gaining in popularity with people who wouldn't otherwise be interested in listening to any kind of house

Dominique (dleone), Monday, 9 January 2006 20:05 (eighteen years ago) link

i hear more metro area

cutty (mcutt), Monday, 9 January 2006 20:06 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, I could easily believe there is no conscious overlap between L & LCD, though I still hear something in common. Putsch 79 also seems related here.

Dominique (dleone), Monday, 9 January 2006 20:10 (eighteen years ago) link

it had some other name on it but it was in their section and someone had written on it "AKA LINDSTROM = DOPE!"

Ummm...aren't you in SF? And did you buy this CD at Amoeba?

I smell the handiwork of Heywood Jablomi!!!!!

yes yes, that's me alright (although i've changed my handle...)
the record in question would have been the supremely fantastic Six Cups of Rebel 12" on Feedelity. Susan - did you like it?
I tried turning a good friend on to this recently but he returned it with the complaint that it was "too balearic". ;) I can't get enough of it. enjoyed best with herbalisms after dark.

also susan, if you bought the album i would DEFINITELY recommend the single (with the wood-carved owl on the cover), which is a more uptempo, extended version of 'turkish delight'. it's exactly what l&pt do so perfectly.

i also just got email from eskimo that they've done a US distro deal with forced exposure so expect CDs of the L&PT album to be in the shop shortly. great news, i think.

dominique, i hear what you're saying, but i think there's less of a direct comparison to LCDS than trends in rock/indie/live music to be influenced by disco and krautrock. i think there's more techno in LCDS, more balearic in L&PT, more italo in Putsch 79. definite overlap though...

something less threatening (heywood), Monday, 9 January 2006 20:17 (eighteen years ago) link

l&pt remixes of roxy music? wtf!

Try this: play the L&PT remix of Juan Maclean's "Tito's Way" and proceed with Roxy Music's "India" (from Avalon). It has the same feel/atmosphere, imo. Knowing Avalon by heart (my parents used to play it a lot), a lot of L&PT's music/remixes hit the same spots as Avalon did/still does.

willem -- (willem), Monday, 9 January 2006 20:43 (eighteen years ago) link

With LCD Soundsystem, I've always heard an inherent gimcrackery, this strange sense that I'm dancing and laughing along with this inside joke, that is only funny once. This has always been an obstacle with my enjoyment of the music. Maybe it helps that most of lindstrom and prins thomas's music is instrumental. But I hear a lot more punk rock in LCDS than L&PT.

Jacobs (LolVStein), Monday, 9 January 2006 20:59 (eighteen years ago) link

"india" has the most killer sample ever.

cutty (mcutt), Monday, 9 January 2006 21:05 (eighteen years ago) link

I like to pretend that India was Ferry's way of saying "see, I can do weird, cool, groovy, instrumental soundscapes too..." to Eno.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 9 January 2006 21:24 (eighteen years ago) link

That 6 Cups.. is really good. His most Krautrockish stuff.

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Monday, 9 January 2006 21:58 (eighteen years ago) link

jacobs otm. i forgot the punk!

something less threatening (heywood), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 01:14 (eighteen years ago) link

What interests me about the L&PT/LCD connection is how ultimately the "Tribulations" remix sounds so... organic? Not in the sense of sounding naturalistic, but as if it's the habitual state of this particular song. It doesn't strike me as sounding like a remix, whereas the Tiga mix definitely does (though I like it about as much).

I find Justus Kohncke in disco mode to be closer to these guys than Metro Area, perhaps because both Kohncke and L&PT are more obviously disco-as-in-house (live-sounding but still heavy four-to-the-floor beats - hence the DFA resemblance), whereas Metro Area are like disco-as-in-not-house. And Kohncke gets that slightly swirly smudgy quality as well (see esp. "Krieg") which is the one point where the Faze Action comparison falls short for me.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 01:14 (eighteen years ago) link

parts of "turkish delight" remind me of the instrumentals on bowie's low which is no bad thing at all. i love that the bass line is a double bass + a bass guitar + a squelchy analog synth all intertwined, it's a hot bass three-way. heh.

i believe i have a few records that are labelled "dope!"

breakfast pants (disco stu), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 05:05 (eighteen years ago) link

so how much of this record is samples vs actual playing? i remember chatting with someone from norway about these guys and he was saying that a lot of it was samples or edits which is definitely true of the major swellings release and some of the tracks on the comp, but this album, with the exception of the percussion loops, sounds like they actually played the stuff. it's great either way, but if it's all samples, wow...

breakfast pants (disco stu), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 05:14 (eighteen years ago) link

i think isolée is a good reference point for these guys too.

breakfast pants (disco stu), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 05:17 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, i think i said upthread when I first heard the album that I'll probably always associate it with Wearemonster.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 06:00 (eighteen years ago) link

yesterday I emailed a friend that I Feel Space and My Hi-Matic are sisters in song. Both beautiful italo-influenced space disco tracks which stand-out against the more electro/italo type retro-italo.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 15:11 (eighteen years ago) link

i've temporarily come out of lurkdom and deep penetrating petulant anger to say ...6 Cups of Rebel - YES! YES! YES!! (thx Heywood!) and maybe even more yes (I only listened to it once and them immediately had to listen to Roxy Music and then.... Neil Young..?.) The Lindstrom and Prins Thomas self-titled record - not so much, so far. seemed too jointed, like 2 people who don't work very well together trying to get ideas out but I only listened to a few tracks (Turkish Delight was one and not very into it at all).

jacobs OTM on LCD vs. Lindstrom.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 20:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Sometimes I think Prins Thomas is the good one.

Goettsching!

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 20:54 (eighteen years ago) link

I had that feeling before too. And also had the feeling that they are like 8 different people instead of 2. What I like about them i think is that thing - that you can hear/sense that extreme artistic looseness and un-presumptiveness even with regard to old styles/sounds, which is another way they are not like LCD. They don't follow some formula b/c they want some sound to come out in a slightly different path but following some fashion trajectory that started ages ago. And they're still stylin.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 20:59 (eighteen years ago) link

I do wish Lindstrom would learn a new bass riff (dum - d-dum).

Dominique (dleone), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 21:12 (eighteen years ago) link

quite a lot of it is live as opposed to samples. for the less electronic space disco tracks i know they have a really basic drum kit they play and then sample.

like ronan, i sometimes think prins thomas is the good one as he doesn't noodle quite as much, but then i'll listen to something like 'arp she said' and change my mind again.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 21:24 (eighteen years ago) link

you've spent time with them, haven't you jd? i would suspect you'd know better than any of us.

it seems they're in japan doing live sets this weekend, let's hope some audio makes its way onto the intarwebb for our listening pleasure. and because i'm spending way too much money for my first ipod tomorrow. :)

something less threatening (heywood), Thursday, 12 January 2006 04:24 (eighteen years ago) link

oh btw, been listening to 'another side of lindstrom' again last night and it's really growing on me. sometimes it sounds dodgy and way too noodly and at others it sounds brilliant. last night's listen veered toward brilliant immediately and stayed there. must have been the weed. it's definitely a melding of the lindstrom's slowsupreme side and his i feel space side, and it does clash a bit. has anyone else heard the 'violent group' 10" that has preceded this? apparently the label outergaze is pressing in the US so if you're in the states you'll be able to get the doublepack at a domestic price.

something less threatening (heywood), Thursday, 12 January 2006 04:28 (eighteen years ago) link

i like him most when he noodles.

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 12 January 2006 12:12 (eighteen years ago) link


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