What do the other Liverpool people around here think? And the non Liverpool people also?
― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 27 October 2003 16:52 (twenty years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 27 October 2003 18:29 (twenty years ago) link
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 27 October 2003 22:03 (twenty years ago) link
Everton 1-0 Liverpool, Andy King 58min; Mike Pejic's long free-kick, Martin Dobson's knockdown (or was he outjumped by Phil Thompson?) and King's swerving 'fluke' volley from 25 yards. Clemence looked bewildered, shamed, hurt.
The sun dipping behind the Park End stand, flooding the BBC lenses, lending the whole thing a washed out, unreal feel. Couldn't we have scored in front of the Gwladys Street - dancing mass of blue, in full 625line contrast? No, this was better - look at the miserable sods behind the goal.
"Delirium at Goodison Park!" squealed Young Tyldesley on 194m MW. The same watery autumn glare in our old front room, Clive on the stereogram, my brother staring at the same piece of carpet for the last 32 minutes, hoping, praying (we still did then).
Richard Duckenfield's breathless fulltime scoop interview gets as far as "Andy King..." before a jobsworth rednose bobby intervenes. "Gerrof the pitch..." A staple on What Happened Next for years.
Magic/tragic/etc.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 16:50 (twenty years ago) link
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/3261175.stm
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 11 November 2003 16:37 (twenty years ago) link
When he turned on a tuppence and pelted the post from nowhere I think I actually heard myself exclaiming "ROY OF THE ROVERS!".
― the roonfox, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 12:27 (twenty years ago) link
A fan is reported as saying: 'all the talk's about catching up with Manchester United... but 14 years ago we were way ahead of them in terms of success, income and support'.
(14 years! It sounds like the kind of thing that... that *I'd* say.)
― the liverfox, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 14:25 (twenty years ago) link
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 6 January 2004 14:45 (twenty years ago) link
(Those bags, by the way - what a strange convention they were, utterly accepted and almost omnipresent, yet now presumably nonexistent.
I assume we know what bags I'm talking about.)
― the liverfox, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 20:14 (twenty years ago) link
Perhaps the meaning of it all is that Liverpool now mean football's past? So I am keen on them.
cf. David Lacey's Guardian article also.
Everton were alas defeated in the capital.
Anyway -- assuming a Liverpool comeback of some kind, how far can it go?
― the pinefox (Jerrynipper), Saturday, 10 January 2004 19:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 10 January 2004 20:46 (twenty years ago) link
I hate Michael Howard more than ever right now.
― chris (chris), Sunday, 11 January 2004 10:52 (twenty years ago) link
Kilbane and Jeffers good again vs Fulham, but we wasted too many early chances. I fancy us in the forthcoming Cup rematch though.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 11 January 2004 22:29 (twenty years ago) link
Much talk a la: "Liverpool now have to prove they're worthy of him".
But why? He is part of the team which has (relatively) failed - is he worthy of Liverpool? Shouldn't he be going out and proving it?
Insofar as he's not part of the failed team, it's because he has repeatedly seemed to play so few matches per season. So shouldn't he also be proving that he's fit enough to be offered a contract?
― the liverfox, Tuesday, 13 January 2004 14:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 14:53 (twenty years ago) link
― the liverfox, Tuesday, 13 January 2004 15:46 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 20:48 (twenty years ago) link
Dear me, BIG SAM and his TV promoter Robbie Earle won't like that.
― the liverfox, Saturday, 17 January 2004 14:17 (twenty years ago) link
― the beebfox, Monday, 23 February 2004 14:31 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 23 February 2004 21:26 (twenty years ago) link
― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 23 February 2004 22:06 (twenty years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 23 February 2004 22:24 (twenty years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 00:46 (twenty years ago) link
― Dave B (daveb), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 12:03 (twenty years ago) link
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 12:06 (twenty years ago) link
It's sad, there was so much promise a couple of years ago and now what? sliding again into turgid mediocrity
― chris (chris), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 12:07 (twenty years ago) link
Aren't people overestimating the quality of the Liverpool squad a bit? I mean, they're 26 points off the title pace - that's not all down to GH's tactics/motivational skills, is it? They're clearly a cut above the Premiership median and still probably favourites for 4th spot (57-60pts will do it this season) but this seems a weaker collective pool of talent than 2000-01 (OK, that is GH's fault).
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 12:18 (twenty years ago) link
― run it off (run it off), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 12:23 (twenty years ago) link
― Dave B (daveb), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 12:24 (twenty years ago) link
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 12:26 (twenty years ago) link
I still think they'll get fourth. Does that constitute a decent season? I dunno.
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 12:37 (twenty years ago) link
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 12:39 (twenty years ago) link
― Dave B (daveb), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 12:42 (twenty years ago) link
Everton are even worse.
― run it off (run it off), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 12:42 (twenty years ago) link
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 12:44 (twenty years ago) link
I liked Ian St John's claim that Houll the Ghoull is transforming the Anfield faithful into 'zombies', traipsing across a mist-shrouded Stanley Park.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 12:46 (twenty years ago) link
That's nine misses in nineteen attempts! Who else would have him?
Everton - the Grand Old Relegation Struggle again. We can't even comfort ourselves with the notion that it's us and a dozen others because a gap has developed in the last couple of weeks and we're on the wrong end of it. I'm going to see them on Saturday - my first trip to Goodison in a decade - and hopefully it'll be our first league win of 2004. If not, I don't see us keeping the likes of Leeds, Wolves and Leicester at bay with any ease - none of them are in freefall, they're still snaffling up points here and there.
We seem to miss a similar proportion of chances to Liverpool, we just create a third as many. And we're leaky at the back in a way not hinted at by 02-03. This season we possession-dominate 0-1 defeats; last season we pinched even-steven games with late wonder-strikes. Gravesen is the most frustrating player to watch - occasionally inspired and inspiring, he misdirects more passes in 90 minutes than Paul Bracewell did in his whole career.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 12:57 (twenty years ago) link
What I've seen of Cisse he's been great, but always with the backing of Kapo while playing for Auxerre, maybe Kewell will provide similar service if he ever decides to start being a decent player again.
― chris (chris), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 13:42 (twenty years ago) link
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 13:56 (twenty years ago) link
I'm not sure about that - he only played a dozen or so games last campaign but started this season in great form (the hat-trick against Leeds being the highlight) and then got injured. But, yes, terribly ineffective since his return. We've missed a fit Kevin Campbell this year but we're going to have to get used to that - it's twilight time for KC.
Ha, just checked the stats on the website and Gravesen makes 77% of his passes, making him EFC's Mr Accuracy. Sorry, Thom!
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 14:19 (twenty years ago) link
― chris (chris), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 14:36 (twenty years ago) link
Mike - I hope you're taking a camera!
(Not Titi.)
― the roonfox, Tuesday, 24 February 2004 15:43 (twenty years ago) link
Did I hear him say at the weekend that he had lost his job hosting hospitality suites because of being critical of Houllier last year?
― Mooro (Mooro), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 16:30 (twenty years ago) link
Liverpool revived their bid for a Champions League spot with a convincing victory over Portsmouth. A stunning volley from Dietmar Hamann and two goals from Michael Owen lifted the Reds into fifth place, a point adrift of Charlton.
Owen tucked away his first from six yards before sealing a welcome return to form with a second-half header.
Emile Heskey might have made it four late on when he headed against a post, while Portsmouth offered little.
Defeat left Portsmouth in the bottom three, still two points adrift of safety.
― the liverfox, Thursday, 18 March 2004 14:12 (twenty years ago) link
But have Liverpool now turned another corner?
And has Merseyside sent Portsmouth down?
― the roonfox, Thursday, 18 March 2004 14:13 (twenty years ago) link
I read today someone espousing Heskey for Centre back - this smacks of twisted genius
― chris (chris), Thursday, 18 March 2004 14:21 (twenty years ago) link
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 18 March 2004 15:11 (twenty years ago) link
Chris, I wouldn't say losing 4-0 at home to Villa constitutes form for Wolves.
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 18 March 2004 15:48 (twenty years ago) link
― chris (chris), Thursday, 18 March 2004 16:03 (twenty years ago) link
Unless Boro have one hell of a run in. And no one wants that.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 18 March 2004 16:09 (twenty years ago) link