Oh boy, ILX! That's where I'm a viking!..?

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anyway being a viking at something meaning the same thing as being good at something has now been retconned into our culture

Xander: It happens that I'm good at a lot of things. I help out with all kinds of... stuff. I have skills and... stratagems... I'm very... help me out.
Anya: He's a Viking in the sack.

Oh boy, sleep! That's where I'm a ILXing! (dyao), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:44 (fourteen years ago) link

well aren't you just the bees knees xxp

Oh boy, sleep! That's where I'm a ILXing! (dyao), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:45 (fourteen years ago) link

at being asleep she means xp

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:46 (fourteen years ago) link

lol did u just quote buffy the vampire slayer

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:48 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah but I stole it from the metafilter thread :(

Oh boy, sleep! That's where I'm a ILXing! (dyao), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:49 (fourteen years ago) link

why don't we talk about how being a viking in the sack makes a hell of a lot more sense as an original coinage than being a viking at sleep

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:49 (fourteen years ago) link

I think we're all gonna need some big hugs and reassurances that we all still respect one another, after this thread.

Walter Melon (Abbott), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago) link

I blood eagle every girl I sleep with, tbh

Oh boy, sleep! That's where I'm a ILXing! (dyao), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago) link

xxp Because Vikings "sack" villages.

jaymc, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link

fwiw I was trained as a lit major in college and thus always look for the hermeneutic road less traveled and really cannot believe that people can get so dogmatically insistent over something as transient and mutable as language

(I've also believed in option A since first viewing this episode as a rerun on FOX in the mid 90s)

^damning post to your side

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link

lol in reality it has only ever led to me making tons of totally inappropriate/non sequitor "that's what she said!" jokes in polite company

Oh boy, sleep! That's where I'm a ILXing! (dyao), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:56 (fourteen years ago) link

and is probably one of the reasons why I find myself in the predicament stated over in the not getting invited to things thread

Oh boy, sleep! That's where I'm a ILXing! (dyao), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, ok, I invite you to the Colonial Diner. BUT ONLY if you cut this Option A horse shit stat.

Oh boy, sleep! That's where I'm Ann Reinking! (Stevie D), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link

haha I'll take you up on that when I return for the summer (but I'm not making any promises)

Oh boy, sleep! That's where I'm a ILXing! (dyao), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link

btw guys "ILX" was originally meant to be "I Love Christ" and all you guys have been posting to a board for born-again Christians for the past 10 years

Oh boy, sleep! That's where I'm a ILXing! (dyao), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link

thing is, this isn't even about the mutability of language or anything literary. it's like if a doctor told a family member of yours "you have pancreatic cancer" and everyone else goes "oh shit, what are the ramifications, what can I do to help" etc, while you're like "wait wait! what if mayyyyybe the doctor was coining a new phrase and by saying 'you have pancreatic cancer' really meant 'you are a great patient'?????"

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 16:16 (fourteen years ago) link

you are a great patient, granny dainger

Oh boy, sleep! That's where I'm a ILXing! (dyao), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link

(maybe you should go see a doctor)

Oh boy, sleep! That's where I'm a ILXing! (dyao), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link

state of sleep != dreaming first of all (I find it hard to conceive of sleep as a place, fantastical or otherwise)

Come on, is this really less plausible than the idea that Ralph is either a) inventing a metaphor or b) quoting something that was told to him in an implied-but-never-shown backstory?

Sundar, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link

ok I admit that b) is far-fetched (but not to me as a simpsons fan) but a) is totally more plausible given ralph's general ineptness with language, as in, he's inventing a metaphor unintentionally

Oh boy, sleep! That's where I'm a ILXing! (dyao), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link

HE MEANT IT LITERALLY
RALPH

MEANT WHAT HE SAID LITERALLY

RALPH SAYS RANDOM AND WEIRD STUFF ALL THE TIME IT IS WHAT HE DOES HE IS RALPH

HE IS RANDOM AND WEIRD
AND WHEN HE SLEEPS HE GETS TO PRETEND HES A VIKING HEH WHY CAUSE ITS FUNNY AND WEIRD AND RANDOM
LIKE RALPH

STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS

iiiijjjj, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link

hahahaha dyao I thought you were referencing the original a) and b) in the poll options at first

Marriage, that's where I'm a Viking! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link

lol or was I?

anyway time to go be a viking, I expect this thread to have broken 1000 when I wake up tmrw

Oh boy, sleep! That's where I'm a ILXing! (dyao), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 16:32 (fourteen years ago) link

i meant xxp

Oh boy, sleep! That's where I'm Ann Reinking! (Stevie D), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 16:32 (fourteen years ago) link

like, it is completely understandable, valid and funny to extrapolate from that scene that Ralph sucks at school and is good at sleeping and therefore turn "that's where I'm a Viking" into an idiom meaning "I am good at this", but the likelihood of that meaning actually being present in the scene, particularly given the history of the character and they way he's been portrayed before and since, is pretty fucking small

So how come MILLIONS of people apparently watched this episode and took away this reading? It's not like this is something one person made up and gradually converted others to after all.

Also, wtf sense does it make that Ralph would consistently and regularly dream about the same thing? Who does that? Dreams are different all the time. "Dream" theory just doesn't make sense.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:02 (fourteen years ago) link

So how come MILLIONS of people apparently watched this episode and took away this reading?

Because people can be stupidly over-analytical, particularly re: shows that have been branded as entertainment for smart people?

Marriage, that's where I'm a Viking! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:04 (fourteen years ago) link

I assure you when I was twelve or whatever and first saw this episode I was not trying to "analyze" this cryptic comment, it just immediately read as the "viking = excels" joke and it was funny.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:05 (fourteen years ago) link

millons? really?

Viking was a random choice by Ralph based on a recent dream. Another day he would've said pirate, lawyer, board admin etc.

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Also, wtf sense does it make that Ralph would consistently and regularly dream about the same thing? Who does that?

haha waht this happens all the time!

the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:07 (fourteen years ago) link

I assure you when I was twelve or whatever and first saw this episode I was not trying to "analyze" this cryptic comment, it just immediately read as the "viking = excels" joke and it was funny.

― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, April 27, 2010 12:05 PM (50 seconds ago) Bookmark

well you just operate on a higher plane of consciousness than the general population then

iiiijjjj, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:07 (fourteen years ago) link

haha waht this happens all the time!

does anyone actually have recurring dreams where good shit happens tho? mine are just the 'back at school or old job wtf this isn't cool but i'm too baffled by how this has happened to protest' ilk

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Dreams are different all the time.

Yeah. Tell that to the many people who have ever worked in radio and have recurring dreams of screwing everything up. There's a whole Facebook page devoted to it.

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=2350714789&topic=8594

I turn it up when I hear the banjo (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link

doesn't mean he always dreams he's a viking, but there's a chance he will and it's such an awesome dream that the possibility of it occuring again excites him.

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link

at this point there are really only two options to resolve this discussion:
* attempt to marshal our resources and get a definitive answer from an authoritative source (ie a writer or producer of this episode)
* marvel at the fact that this is a joke that can be seen from two different perspectives, both of which are funny, like the picture of the old ugly lady that is also a picture of a young hot lady, and just sit and think about how wonderful and amazing that is

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:15 (fourteen years ago) link

we could also continue fake-having this argument just to lol at the people who genuinely find it irritating

Marriage, that's where I'm a Viking! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:18 (fourteen years ago) link

When I was a kid I frequently had a recurring dream where I had to fight sapient refrigerators and ovens in a giant, glowing pyramid that had pterodactyls flying over it.

Walter Melon (Abbott), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:18 (fourteen years ago) link

did you draw a comic about this?

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:19 (fourteen years ago) link

because that would be so incredible

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Maybe I should...it would have to be in color, though.

Walter Melon (Abbott), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:20 (fourteen years ago) link

waiting for granny dainger to come along and tell me that picture is CLEARLY ONLY of an old crone and if I see a young hot lady I must be some kind of IDIOT DOUCHEBAG

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:20 (fourteen years ago) link

abbott i'd be willing to provide colour from my extensive post-production suite

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:22 (fourteen years ago) link

nah you're an idiot douchebag no matter what sorry

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:22 (fourteen years ago) link

are there any other instances in books, films, etc. where people use "viking" in place of "excels"

am0n, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link

the optical illusion analogy is kinda weak though cause that's designed to be dually interpretable whereas ralph literally meant he was a viking in his dreams and people just mistakenly misinterpreted him, it's no big whoop though just a simple misunderstanding

iiiijjjj, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link

pre-ralph i mean

am0n, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link

I have been calling my .xls files "viking spreadsheets" for years.

Walter Melon (Abbott), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link

lol Abbott

Marriage, that's where I'm a Viking! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:25 (fourteen years ago) link

jaymc yesterday

http://lib.lbcc.edu/handouts/images/Vikings/vikings3.jpg

mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link

So how come MILLIONS of people apparently watched this episode and took away this reading?

i've been asking around since i saw this thread and *everyone* has assumed that Ralph was dreaming about being a viking. they also now know i spend my time debating these things online instead of just watching porn like most civilized people.

jesus xposts!

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link


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