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― ian, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 06:33 (fourteen years ago) link
guys.
ralph means that sleep is literally where he becomes a viking
shit is simple
― stars on ?boardid=45 (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 06:35 (fourteen years ago) link
flummoxed by people connecting "sleep" + "a scenario that is not connected to reality" = dreaming? seriously? you are. flummoxed. you. right now. by that.
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 06:36 (fourteen years ago) link
i do have to say that ILX seems way more in agreement on this than most places
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 06:37 (fourteen years ago) link
Crut OTM.
― Eyjafjallalalalalatrolololol (Trayce), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 06:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Even the grammar doesn't work. That's WHERE I'm a viking. Not: I'm a viking at the task of sleeping. I'm the viking of sleep, you could say. When it comes to sleeping, it's safe to consider me to be at viking level. vsIn the land of dreams, that's where it's like I'm an actual viking and being a viking is cool cause of the exploring and the cool helmets, I so can't wait to get back to sleep and do some pillaging.
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 06:55 (fourteen years ago) link
me fail english, that's unpossible
― ⚡ You vike this. (dyao), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 06:59 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah but it's not even fucked up enough grammar to be funny, just enough to make interpretation A implausible
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 07:06 (fourteen years ago) link
this poll should be a question on civil service exams
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 07:07 (fourteen years ago) link
it establishes that ralph is an unreliable narrator
― ⚡ You vike this. (dyao), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 07:08 (fourteen years ago) link
has post-structuralism taught us NOTHING
― ⚡ You vike this. (dyao), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 07:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Off to sleep for me, where I'm a Mayan at explaining jokes to fools
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 07:14 (fourteen years ago) link
IMO: "sleep, thats where I'm a viking!" = "sleep, thats where I'm a fairy queen/merchant banker/cyborg destructor/[insert fantasy dreamstate of choice]"
― Eyjafjallalalalalatrolololol (Trayce), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 07:17 (fourteen years ago) link
Shouldn't option B say: Ralph means that sleep is where he dreams he is a viking? I mean obviously he doesn't literally become a viking when he's asleep (though if he does, maybe he dreams about being a boy).
― Home Taping Is Killing Muzak (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 09:29 (fourteen years ago) link
the problem is,sleep doesn't necessarily imply dreaming
― ⚡ You vike this. (dyao), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 09:37 (fourteen years ago) link
ralph a bit sketchy on the whole
http://intepid.com/res/417.gif
distinction
― the big pink suede panda bear hurts (ledge), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 09:38 (fourteen years ago) link
He might believe that he becomes a viking, but that doesn't mean that we should believe it.
― Home Taping Is Killing Muzak (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 09:41 (fourteen years ago) link
"ralph means that sleep is literally where he becomes a viking" - that is what ralph means. what we believe is not important.
― the big pink suede panda bear hurts (ledge), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 09:48 (fourteen years ago) link
What's this salt thread Trayce is talking about?
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 09:53 (fourteen years ago) link
I forget what the title was but people were arguig over wether it was polite to salt food before you ate it or not. It got hilariously heated.
― Eyjafjallalalalalatrolololol (Trayce), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 09:54 (fourteen years ago) link
Taste your food before you salt it, of course. Fuck politeness - too much salt leads to high.blood pressure.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 10:02 (fourteen years ago) link
Pepper on the other hand, I will dump like 5 packets of that on my french fries. It's like I hate the taste of french fries so much that it takes that much pepper to eat them. I would probably be better off pouring all that pepper on a salad or summat.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 11:32 (fourteen years ago) link
really is the most wtf thread i have encountered after nearly 8 years of ILXing
http://www.bb-shopping.com/prod_images/image_cat60/thumbs/300/thumb_3917_image1_homer_simpson_low.jpg
― mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 11:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Well played.
― Eyjafjallalalalalatrolololol (Trayce), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 12:12 (fourteen years ago) link
As much as I am a b-ist on this one, the argument of using grammar with Ralph Wiggum is sort of not holding any weight
― Oh boy, sleep! That's where I'm Ann Reinking! (Stevie D), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 12:19 (fourteen years ago) link
Man, had I known, I would've posed this to Simpsons writer/producer Mike Reiss when I met him briefly a couple months ago.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 12:46 (fourteen years ago) link
http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/10/27/128696138717354358.jpg
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 12:54 (fourteen years ago) link
right, not necessarily. but when you talk about fantasy role playing...not to be a dick but are you really this obtuse? find it hard to believe you're not trolling.
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 14:54 (fourteen years ago) link
I mean I can definitely see where you B types are coming from but I just don't think it's as cut and dry as ya'll are making it out to be. state of sleep != dreaming first of all (I find it hard to conceive of sleep as a place, fantastical or otherwise) and second the phrase "that's where I'm (x)" is more ambiguous than ya'll are giving it credit for being. if ralph had said "that's where I become a viking" I admit we wouldn't be having this argument.
― Oh boy, sleep! That's where I'm a ILXing! (dyao), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 14:58 (fourteen years ago) link
you people are blowing my mind.
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:01 (fourteen years ago) link
like.
i did not think this was a real debate at first.
what a bunch of Ralphs
― mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:04 (fourteen years ago) link
fwiw I was trained as a lit major in college and thus always look for the hermeneutic road less traveled and really cannot believe that people can get so dogmatically insistent over something as transient and mutable as language
(I've also believed in option A since first viewing this episode as a rerun on FOX in the mid 90s)
― Oh boy, sleep! That's where I'm a ILXing! (dyao), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:05 (fourteen years ago) link
the insistence isn't about the language as such. it's the insistence that option B makes sense in the context of the character whereas A doesn't at all.
― mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:07 (fourteen years ago) link
do I really need to start posting youtube clips of "Kids say the darndest things!" itt
― Oh boy, sleep! That's where I'm a ILXing! (dyao), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:08 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.metafilter.com/61946/Sleep-is-where-Ralph-is-a-Viking
― mdskltr (blueski), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:09 (fourteen years ago) link
A doesn't make sense.
― Times New Excels At (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Ralph is not a kid he is the voice of scriptwriters writing gags for a character with an identifiable persona!
― the big pink suede panda bear hurts (ledge), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:09 (fourteen years ago) link
http://content.ytmnd.com/content/e/0/e/e0e0fb9640c3227b23f0f7074d925dc6.jpg
IS RALPH WIGGUM LITERALLY SUGGESTING THAT HE IS IN FACT A TIGHT-FITTING ONE-PIECE GARMENT OF STRETCHABLE FABRIC COVERING THE BODY FROM THE NECT TO THE FEET
― Oh boy, sleep! That's where I'm a ILXing! (dyao), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:10 (fourteen years ago) link
Ralph Wiggum: I look like cable TV!
IS RALPH WIGGUM IN FACT A CATHODE RAY EMITTING TUBE UNDER THE CONTROL OF NEFARIOUS CONTENT-TRANSMISSION COMPANIES
― Oh boy, sleep! That's where I'm a ILXing! (dyao), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:11 (fourteen years ago) link
jokes are where i'm a viking and can tell you it is B so lock thread.
― Times New Excels At (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:11 (fourteen years ago) link
sometimes i have arguments where the other person is so convinced of their rightness that an element of doubt creeps in, perhaps i am making a colossal mistake.
this is not one of those times.
― the big pink suede panda bear hurts (ledge), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:13 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm kind of annoyed that "B" is the second option and not the first option
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:13 (fourteen years ago) link
i honestly wonder what it means that ILX is so united about this. BCO pretty much had a civil war over it
Unitard is him mistaking one word for another, not a metaphor. No one is arguing that language is static and inflexible; it's just that in the context of Ralph's character, it seems like he'd be more likely to be getting all excited about the opportunity to go to sleep and dream of being a viking than it does for him to be using the word "viking" as "v good at".
But we are chasing our tails here at this point.
― Oh boy, sleep! That's where I'm Ann Reinking! (Stevie D), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:14 (fourteen years ago) link
it means we the best xpost
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:18 (fourteen years ago) link
the fact that ilx is pretty united on this issue makes sense cause people here are generally less retarded than on other msg boards and you would have to be pretty retarded to not understand such a simple joke (+ stay in denial after someone explains it to you)
― iatee, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:19 (fourteen years ago) link
all language is metaphoric, btw
― Oh boy, sleep! That's where I'm a ILXing! (dyao), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:19 (fourteen years ago) link
can't it be BOTH a and b, all schrodinger's ralph style?
― stunting how my father did before me (m bison), Tuesday, 27 April 2010 15:21 (fourteen years ago) link