Oh boy, ILX! That's where I'm a viking!..?

ok i swore i wasn't going to get into this but lol @ the idea that ralph could come up with a fanciful and original metaphor such as "viking" being "something you are good at"

― call all destroyer, Tuesday, April 27, 2010 3:36 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

ftr I totally don't get this argument, when has ralph ever been aware of the import of anything he says. he's totally the kid you teach solecisms to who'll never question the meaning of it and always use it. someone taught one of the chinese tutors at my last job that saying "I'm really horny!" was a cool & american way of saying "I'm really happy!" and he went around for a week telling people he was really horny before someone broke it to him.

and then afterwards he pooped right before showering....

So we need to assume that someone has already told Ralph that "viking" = "expert"?

not implausible if you know anything at all about the relationship between ralph and chief wiggum

ok fine i mean that is remotely plausible/highly unlikely

the thing here is i don't think ralph generally thinks of himself as being bad at school or specifically as having failed the task, so for me it doesn't really follow that he'd be pleased because he felt he was given another task he excelled at.

i also don't know if this is u&k or not, but part of the joke is that he's still got the worm in his mouth when he calls on miss hoover to tell her he ate his worm, and only then does he eat the worm. it seems for b to be correct the sequence should go: eats worm > realizes he screwed up task > requests new worm > denied worm, given new task > elated at viking capabilities re: new task. however, since he doesn't actually eat the worm until immediately before he says he ate the worm the first three steps are happening almost simultaneously and out of the correct order. there's no space for the "feel bad about failing task" to "feel good about mastery of new task" turnaround.

timeline (minutes and seconds of show):

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa295/slugbert/zapruder1.jpg

06:19: Ralph: Umm, Miss Hoover?

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa295/slugbert/zapruder2.jpg

06:21: Hoover: Yes Ralph, what is it?

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa295/slugbert/zapruder3.jpg

06:22: Ralph: My worm went in my mouth and then I ate it...can I have another one?

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa295/slugbert/zapruder4.jpg

06:26: Hoover: No Ralph, there aren't any more...[shaking her head] just try to sleep while the other children are learning.

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa295/slugbert/zapruder5.jpg

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa295/slugbert/zapruder6.jpg

06:31 - 06:34: Ralph: Oh boy...sleep! That's where I'm a viking!

holy shit at this zapuder take down¿¡

i'm not hardcore abt this, btw.

lol i was like why the fuck are these screencaps getting posted but well done sir

ralph looks sad... that's not how i remembered it.

sleeping ralph screencap is a moment where it feels tragic that ilx doesn't do avatars

says the guy who posted screencaps!!!

but Ralph looks sad throughout the whole sequence so he knows he fucked up

i meant for "a" to be correct (self x-post)

can't wait til this thread hits 300 replies

Holy shit this thread is the saddest display of wtfery I've seen here since the salt one.

AND I AM A SIMPSONS FAN. o_0

love all the dudes itt getting sanctimonious w/0 revealing their position

guys i think maybe Ralph is srsly an intelectual pretending to be stupid so he can win milhouse's heart......

hay i revealed mine already!!11!!!

if you think it's "sleep is an area in which he excels" then you clearly misunderstood it when it aired and now have to justify your inability to judge words by the context of the sentence in which they appear. stop being so stubborn.

Its "thats where i am dreaming and thus I can be a viking" ffs it was a simple, unadorned joke and I'm staggered this is even on the table.

ok i swore i wasn't going to get into this but lol @ the idea that ralph could come up with a fanciful and original metaphor such as "viking" being "something you are good at"

― call all destroyer, Tuesday, April 27, 2010 3:36 AM (5 hours ago)
ftr I totally don't get this argument, when has ralph ever been aware of the import of anything he says. he's totally the kid you teach solecisms to who'll never question the meaning of it and always use it. someone taught one of the chinese tutors at my last job that saying "I'm really horny!" was a cool & american way of saying "I'm really happy!" and he went around for a week telling people he was really horny before someone broke it to him.

so your counter argument is that we are to assume there's a backstory of someone teaching Ralph that viking=one who excels? that's the more logical to view it? occam's razor works well with comedy

Wow, never even heard of the "dreams he's a viking" version until tonight. Totally baffled and flummoxed by it... I mean I file this under the same as Marge declaring "Now it's Marge's time to shine!" except just using this weird idiom that's probably something one of Ralph's teachers have fed him when trying to encourage him to go to sleep.

a) lovin this thread; ii) amazed that this is a thing; 3) can see how in a moment of unguarded innocence someone might think that ralph means he excels at sleeping; cannot see how, on being told the dream explanation, they would not go 'OH my god OF COURSE that is so OBVIOUS!'

if you think it's "sleep is an area in which he excels" then you clearly misunderstood it when it aired and now have to justify your inability to judge words by the context of the sentence in which they appear. stop being so stubborn.

you're right, language is static and words never take on new meanings

I never take context into account when interpreting language!

I mean I file this under the same as Marge declaring "Now it's Marge's time to shine!"

OK wow now see that one's an obvious turn of phrase for "marge's time to be awesome" because ITS ALREADY A SAYING.

"I'm a viking" isnt a saying aaaaaa this is like the think/thing thread hahaha this is doing my head in.

http://www.bingegamer.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/lost-vikings.jpg

guys.

ralph means that sleep is literally where he becomes a viking

shit is simple

flummoxed by people connecting "sleep" + "a scenario that is not connected to reality" = dreaming? seriously? you are. flummoxed. you. right now. by that.

i do have to say that ILX seems way more in agreement on this than most places

Crut OTM.

Even the grammar doesn't work. That's WHERE I'm a viking. Not: I'm a viking at the task of sleeping. I'm the viking of sleep, you could say. When it comes to sleeping, it's safe to consider me to be at viking level.
vs
In the land of dreams, that's where it's like I'm an actual viking and being a viking is cool cause of the exploring and the cool helmets, I so can't wait to get back to sleep and do some pillaging.

me fail english, that's unpossible

yeah but it's not even fucked up enough grammar to be funny, just enough to make interpretation A implausible

this poll should be a question on civil service exams

it establishes that ralph is an unreliable narrator

has post-structuralism taught us NOTHING

Off to sleep for me, where I'm a Mayan at explaining jokes to fools

IMO: "sleep, thats where I'm a viking!" = "sleep, thats where I'm a fairy queen/merchant banker/cyborg destructor/[insert fantasy dreamstate of choice]"

Shouldn't option B say: Ralph means that sleep is where he dreams he is a viking? I mean obviously he doesn't literally become a viking when he's asleep (though if he does, maybe he dreams about being a boy).

the problem is，sleep doesn't necessarily imply dreaming

ralph a bit sketchy on the whole

http://intepid.com/res/417.gif

distinction

He might believe that he becomes a viking, but that doesn't mean that we should believe it.

"ralph means that sleep is literally where he becomes a viking" - that is what ralph means. what we believe is not important.

What's this salt thread Trayce is talking about?

I forget what the title was but people were arguig over wether it was polite to salt food before you ate it or not. It got hilariously heated.