George W. Bush, the security threat to America and the states that support him

BTW, Jon, that was unnecessary, and fuck you. Unless there's some reason for you to especially hate this thread, there's no goddamn reason for that.

listen to yourselves

Can I just interject here -- in sort of an "I'm not gabbneb" maneuver -- that all I was really talking about, above, was the particular rhetoric of party support when it comes to this issue? Which is to say, the level of how vocal people in various places are about the issue, and how they appear to voice and argue from those concerns? We seem to have spiraled off into some point-scoring netherworld wherein hstencil, for instance (sorry stencil, just an example) has gone from saying "but the last attack was in OKCity" to "actually homegrown terrorists hit big cities too." Personally I'm aware of both of those things, and I'm also aware of the Michigan Militia, because I used to have to load huge slabs of beef onto the back of their camo trucks when I worked at a northern-Michigan (ring finger, second knuckle) grocery store. I remain interested in why people in non-"target" areas seem sometimes to be stronger in voicing their fears of attack than people in "target" areas, and while I'm sure the psychology discussed above plays into it, and while I'm sure on some level it's just a line that often derives from having a prexisting support for and belief in the administration, it still strikes me as somewhat fascinating. Anyway.