p.s. I am realizing that most of my contributions to this thread are coming off less "goofball" and more "insufferable prick". Sry :/
― piping hot dish and a cup of chat (Stevie D), Monday, 26 April 2010 03:51 (fourteen years ago) link
the lines of ham? ok fuk it i'm off to sleep i'm gonna have nightmares about this now!
― If You Ain't Gonna Wash It, I Ain't Gonna Eat It (Cattle Grind), Monday, 26 April 2010 03:51 (fourteen years ago) link
it's okay it means you're a viking at ilx xp
― ⚡ You vike this. (dyao), Monday, 26 April 2010 03:52 (fourteen years ago) link
This is bullshit. Surely we could have got a Tuomas joke up in this area (FINLAND!!), you guys are no longer trying. Bring back Momus, I say.
― Fade to Ugly Dave Gray (King Boy Pato), Monday, 26 April 2010 04:28 (fourteen years ago) link
BTW I'm reloaded
― ⚡ You vike this. (dyao), Monday, 26 April 2010 06:38 (fourteen years ago) link
seems the translators agree with me
So, I did some elementary research on the DVD while the board was down, and I am absolutely appalled to report that if the foreign translations are anything to go by, Mr. Nog and other "lateral-thinking motherfuckers" may be right.French = "Dormir, c'est là que je suis le plus fort" ("Sleep, that's where I'm the best!")Dutch = "Slapen, daar ben ik goed in" (I don't know any dutch, but I'm guessing that's "Sleep, now that's something I'm good at")Portuguese = "Ena, pa, dormir! E nisso que sou um Viking" (any Portuguese-speaking people around? I'd have to ask my ladyfriend, but she's not around. Sounds like it's just the literal, equally ambiguous translation anyway)This said, I'd like to point out that translators can be serious lateral-thinking motherfuckers, too. I should know: I'm one (a translator, that is). The case is therefore NOT closed.
French = "Dormir, c'est là que je suis le plus fort" ("Sleep, that's where I'm the best!")Dutch = "Slapen, daar ben ik goed in" (I don't know any dutch, but I'm guessing that's "Sleep, now that's something I'm good at")Portuguese = "Ena, pa, dormir! E nisso que sou um Viking" (any Portuguese-speaking people around? I'd have to ask my ladyfriend, but she's not around. Sounds like it's just the literal, equally ambiguous translation anyway)
This said, I'd like to point out that translators can be serious lateral-thinking motherfuckers, too. I should know: I'm one (a translator, that is). The case is therefore NOT closed.
― ⚡ You vike this. (dyao), Monday, 26 April 2010 06:39 (fourteen years ago) link
also if you examine the quote in context
Ralph: Umm, Miss Hoover?Hoover: Yes Ralph, what is it? Ralph: My worm went in my mouth and then I ate it...can I have another one?Hoover: No Ralph, there aren't any more...[shaking her head] just try to sleep while the other children are learning. Ralph: Oh boy...sleep! That's where I'm a viking!
ralph has just failed at a task, and is now exuberant at being offered the chance to participate in a task in which he excels.
― ⚡ You vike this. (dyao), Monday, 26 April 2010 06:41 (fourteen years ago) link
btw people itt who think that B is the only possible interpretation of the quote are akin to people who think that there wasn't a predator ship in ALIEN
― ⚡ You vike this. (dyao), Monday, 26 April 2010 06:45 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^^ does find it amusing how smug and "OMG ONLY A MORON/DOOFUS/BUTTHOLE/IDJUT/FUKTARD WULD THINK IT WAS ANSWER A" the answer B people always are on these boards.
I hadn't ever seen the quote cuz I abandoned the Simpsons years ago, but my natural reaction was option A, just cuz Ralph's such an incompetent klutz that only he would be excited about sleep because it's the one place where he's awesome. Answer B isn't funny to me in the least.
another board in which the debate occurred: http://www.lastplanetojakarta.com/forums/index.php?topic=8708.0
― If You Ain't Gonna Wash It, I Ain't Gonna Eat It (Cattle Grind), Monday, 26 April 2010 11:11 (fourteen years ago) link
oh lord the pred ship in alien thing again. someone oughta visit that other board and provoke that one guy again.......
― If You Ain't Gonna Wash It, I Ain't Gonna Eat It (Cattle Grind), Monday, 26 April 2010 11:12 (fourteen years ago) link
I have seen this episode approximately 10,000 times and I have never even thought of the concept of interpreting the line literally. This interpretation kind of horrifies me. The idea that Ralph is so amped up about his sleeping ability that he considers himself a viking of sleep is so much funnier than the idea that he wants to go to sleep so he can dream about being a viking.
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 26 April 2010 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link
hahahahahahahahahahahaha
I read the first few posts of this thread in mounting bafflement that this was actually an argument.
I love this board.
― LITERALLY FLATTEN HER WITH THE POWER OF YOUR MARRIAGE (HI DERE), Monday, 26 April 2010 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link
Some of dyao's arguments are actually swaying me a little. Admittedly, I haven't seen this episode since I was a teenager and don't even remember the scene in question very clearly.
― Sundar, Monday, 26 April 2010 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link
will go on record and admit that answer b hadn't occured to me before opening this thread
― sonderangerbot, Monday, 26 April 2010 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link
starting to believe there's a small population of ILXors that interprets all jokes literally and is in constant fear of being eaten by the number seven
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 26 April 2010 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link
really the fact that there have been countless threads on a galaxy of other message boards about this is just deeply, deeply amazing/distressing to me, j0hn otm
wait, WAHT
oh humanity, hahahahahahaha
― LITERALLY FLATTEN HER WITH THE POWER OF YOUR MARRIAGE (HI DERE), Monday, 26 April 2010 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link
idgtt
― where display names die, unrecognized (Lamp), Monday, 26 April 2010 17:29 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah it's a whole thing - the only reason anybody ever starts this thread is to have a big clusterfuck about it - it's really "hilarious"
― brad whitford's guitar explorations (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 26 April 2010 17:31 (fourteen years ago) link
clusterfucks, that's where I'm a Viking!
― LITERALLY FLATTEN HER WITH THE POWER OF YOUR MARRIAGE (HI DERE), Monday, 26 April 2010 17:32 (fourteen years ago) link
also massive uncontrollable lols at Cattle Grind's link
if the internet never happened option b absolutely never ever would have entered my mind
― A B C, Monday, 26 April 2010 17:33 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=that%27s%20where%20I%27m%20a%20viking
hahahahaha
― Marriage, that's where I'm a Viking! (HI DERE), Monday, 26 April 2010 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link
has Ralph ever said anything that wasn't meant 100% literally in the history of The Simpson, btw
― Marriage, that's where I'm a Viking! (HI DERE), Monday, 26 April 2010 17:40 (fourteen years ago) link
more like have any characters ever acted 100% consistently in the history of The Simpsons
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 26 April 2010 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link
dyao is totally trolling itt
― iatee, Monday, 26 April 2010 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link
you must love this thread HI DERE, the "viking equals badass!" brigade will be quite happy to demonstrate for you many, many examples of ralph's sophisticated abstract thinking & cutting-edge use of figurative language
― brad whitford's guitar explorations (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Monday, 26 April 2010 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link
dyao is goofin, n/a appears to be ~trolling~
― GREAT JOB Mushroom head (gbx), Monday, 26 April 2010 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link
the "viking equals badass" subtext is implied, but really if that is actually what the writers intended the character Ralph Wiggum to mean, rather than it being a randomly weird remark to show how excited Ralph was to get to sleep after accidentally eating his worm again* I will eat a hat
* itt: a phrase that sounds dirty but isn't
― Marriage, that's where I'm a Viking! (HI DERE), Monday, 26 April 2010 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link
You don't strike me as a hat kind of guy, tbh.
― Walter Melon (Abbott), Monday, 26 April 2010 17:49 (fourteen years ago) link
btw anyone who didn't vote for "I am a hermeneutic anarchist and am going to convince you of the validity of my own interpretation itt" is straight-up lying
― Marriage, that's where I'm a Viking! (HI DERE), Monday, 26 April 2010 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Scandinavia! that's where I'm a viking!
― cajunsunday, Monday, 26 April 2010 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link
he is excited because IN SLEEP, HE IS A (METAPHORICAL) VIKING
also are you arguing that there is an unintended subtext that is obvious enough that apparently thousands of viewers have thought that it was the primary interpretation but this somehow "slipped by" the writers, editors, proofreaders, etc.?
I am not trolling, I am VIKING
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 26 April 2010 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link
h8 whiney so much for casually dropping that this "debate" exists and then sitting back and laughing
― call all destroyer, Monday, 26 April 2010 18:04 (fourteen years ago) link
In dreams I am a metaphor.
― Walter Melon (Abbott), Monday, 26 April 2010 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm just not clear what's so obviously correct about the literalist interpretation that dudes feel like they can sit around being huffy and superior about it.
Although the literalist interpretation never occurred to me before all this, I don't necessarily think it's a "wrong" interpretation, it's just so much of a less funny interpretation that it makes me sad that that's what people have been going around thinking for years and years. Like their world must feel dreary and sepiatoned while mine is technicolor + dolby.
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 26 April 2010 18:06 (fourteen years ago) link
actually I'm arguing that someone noticed it and laughed at the ambiguity
― Marriage, that's where I'm a Viking! (HI DERE), Monday, 26 April 2010 18:07 (fourteen years ago) link
so you're arguing it was intended
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 26 April 2010 18:08 (fourteen years ago) link
omg
― A B C, Monday, 26 April 2010 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm considering ending this argument by telling you to "go fly a kite," forcing you to literally go out, buy a kite, and fly it.
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 26 April 2010 18:10 (fourteen years ago) link
The idea that Ralph is so amped up about his sleeping ability that he considers himself a viking of sleep is so much funnier than the idea that he wants to go to sleep so he can dream about being a viking.
No, you see, what's funny about it is the fact that he interprets his dream-state not as the biological process of "dreaming" but as a literal place where he takes on alternate personae.
― jaymc, Monday, 26 April 2010 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link
(But I'm with you: it's never occurred to me that there are multiple ways to interpret this line.)
― jaymc, Monday, 26 April 2010 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link
Jaymc OTM re interpretation. (That does sound much more in keeping with Ralph's character, don't you think?)
I'll also note that translators often will substitute something that works in the 'new' language rather than translating directly.
― Sundar, Monday, 26 April 2010 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link
omg n/a this is srsly threatening our relationship
― GREAT JOB Mushroom head (gbx), Monday, 26 April 2010 18:24 (fourteen years ago) link
tho I guess now I can write a boner jamz tune about bein a sleep viking so
― GREAT JOB Mushroom head (gbx), Monday, 26 April 2010 18:25 (fourteen years ago) link
we just got to work through it bro
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 26 April 2010 18:26 (fourteen years ago) link
http://i43.tinypic.com/1zlx4b6.jpg
― kind of loam but mostly sand (los blue jeans), Monday, 26 April 2010 18:32 (fourteen years ago) link
ILX, that's where I'm a bottle opener!
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 26 April 2010 18:34 (fourteen years ago) link
lolling so hard at that bottle opener
― Marriage, that's where I'm a Viking! (HI DERE), Monday, 26 April 2010 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link
racist
― GREAT JOB Mushroom head (gbx), Monday, 26 April 2010 18:38 (fourteen years ago) link
I know ;_;
― Marriage, that's where I'm a Viking! (HI DERE), Monday, 26 April 2010 18:39 (fourteen years ago) link