Oh boy, ILX! That's where I'm a viking!..?

WAIT DOES RALPH REALLY THINK

ageist xp

http://tv.boingboing.net/2007/10/25/simpsons-subgenius.html

never trust an author when they talk about their work. btw silverman wasn't even the writer for that episode

anyway I think the joke becomes much less funny when you take it literally than when you take it metaphorically I mean ralph is just the kind of chucklehead who you would expect to be proud that he excels at sleeping

no, because then the joke has to go through too many steps to get to the punchline: "that's where I'm a viking" -> "this person understands 'viking' to mean something other than what it means" -> back to character's original utterance to re-parse -> LOL? OTOH, "sleep, where I get to be a viking!" -> asleep on desk -> LOL

I have never understood viking to mean anything other than 'being awesome at something'

CAPITAL ONE, WHAT'S IN YOUR WALLET

multixp But I know how old you are-ish!! I am speaking to you!

I get irrationally bummed about this because the "viking means badass!" explanation seems so exceptionally dumb to me, and the joke clearly isn't "lol ralph is so dumb he thinks viking means badass!" esp. since everybody who argues in favor of that interpretation always wants to argue that everybody secretly really believes "viking" and "badass" have been interchangeable since time immemorial

xpost right & I have never understood "water" to mean anything other than "beer" but when I ask for water at a restaurant I don't complain when they don't bring me beer, because I am WRONG

I'M NOT AGEIST, ALL MY BEST FRIENDS HAVE AN AGE!

I had no idea this was a Great Debate until today.

if one first conflates notions of brute strength with the ability to excel

anyways this is a totally common notion when talking about any sport in general, RELEASE THE KRAKEN

j0hn iirc you are a boxing fan, you have never encountered a description where someone compares a boxer to some historical/literary figure known for their brute force as a way to express how good he is at boxing?

I had no idea this was a Great Debate until today.

it's less a great debate than a completely unsupportable claim with a lot of people willing to stan for it

never heard viking used in this way fwiw

probably some american thing

I understand having a hard time with interpreting expressions ('No news is good news') but this is just silly.

j0hn iirc you are a boxing fan, you have never encountered a description where someone compares a boxer to some historical/literary figure known for their brute force as a way to express how good he is at boxing?

yeah dude all that's true but "sleep, where I am a viking, in the sense that vikings are really good at something, and that something is being strong, which here stands in for 'excellence in general,' so in the sense that vikings are good at being strong, I am a viking at sleep, in the sense that when vikings set out to demonstrate their strength, they excel," etc etc

I mean it's just so transparently obviously not what the joke means, but the internet means that you can find out just how many people think eg that barack obama was born in kenya & surprise, a bunch of people don't get a really obvious joke, too - not trying to be a total dick but that really does seem to me the level of willfully not-getting-it you need to torture "sleep, at which I am a badass in the sense that vikings are badass, i.e., they are strong" out of a really simple joke

I don't take as many steps to get there btw as you are claiming: viking means badass -> I'm a badass at sleeping

really the fact that there have been countless threads on a galaxy of other message boards about this is just deeply, deeply amazing/distressing to me, j0hn otm

that being said, i kinda like the idea of sublimating viking into an adjective. tho i think it appeals to my baser, bro-ier tendencies

"dude did u see mike's backflip off the windlip, shit was ~viking~"

you do take as many steps - they're metaphorical, and you're ignoring the use of "where" - why "where" in the line? because ralph conceives of sleep as a place. ralph's character would be perfectly capable of saying "oh boy! I'm a viking at sleep" - it would actually save him words & be easier for him to see

anyway that's too many posts from me on what seems an incredibly obvious point that people just like to get into argts abt

wait why does it make sense to conceive of sleep as a place

later dudes, I'm going to visit sleep

the 'viking' as sports meme isn't only about power/violence i think.....they are a sort of mythic archetype right?
like a transfigured 'family romance' for farmboys from wisconisin to believe they were descended from leif erikson rather than livonian peasants

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wait why does it make sense to conceive of sleep as a place

nobody's ever used the phrase "the land of dreams," I guess

I guess I just grew up around too many sports dudes who were constnatly making brute force = excellence metaphors i.e. "dude's a beast at basketball"

anyway I'm tired of goin ham on dudes itt peace

btw itt i am a viking

didn't the vikings (or some other olden times ppls w/e) believe they visited another physical world in dreams?

no they meant that they were awesome at dreaming

anyone who thinks/votes option a is retarded, end of story.

sleep is where vikings became semi-retarded 8 year olds

why "where" in the line? because ralph conceives of sleep as a place.

see you are taking just as many hermeneutic steps as I am when you conceive of sleep as a metaphysical-cum-physical place

yeah no that's wrong

this is just not actually complicated, the only complicated part is trying to explain it to people who don't get it, cf magnets & how they work

all my thread predictions now fulfilled ^^

has been a good thread

sleep! that's where i'm a homicidal clown!

:o stay out of my drams gbx

sleep! that's where I'm a pelican = sleep is where I get free cell phones

pleagic everywhere

*pelagic

xpost JESUS FUCKING CHRIST PEOPLE IT'S A GODDAMN SIMPSONS QUOTE. why are we analyzing it like a Platonic work...

this isn't really even an argument w/ two sides? it's just a handful of people who refuse to accept that they're wrong about something stupid

next thing you know someones gonna suggest people who voted option A should be put in camps

I just sc'd you cattle

suggest camped?

wow, being in ilx is dangerous now!

http://www.campvikingcapecod.org/

http://www.vikingcamps.net/

tres blinkered ^^

first, they came for the people who voted for option A.....

which episode is this?

― maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, September 22, 2023 11:02 AM (eighteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

It was more a t-shirt than an episode

A+ work maffew

Little-known fact: Homer Simpson originally dreamt of being a pastry chef, a baker, or working in a pizzeria.

That's why he frequently exclaims "dough," to indicate his chagrin about the way his life has unfolded. Every time things go wrong for him, he wishes he had followed his passion for breadmaking, hence his continual lament: "dough."

You're overthinking it like usual. It's really that he keeps forgetting to pick it up at the market, and the recurring gag is him suddenly realizing the oversight at random points throughout his day.

There's a simpler explanation for the dough, YMP.

https://i.pinimg.com/1200x/d5/4d/6b/d54d6be53291588f246a458876a9072d.jpg

i always thought Homer was doing solfege and establishing where "Do" was for his barbershop buddies

This is the best thread

when's the movie coming out

and who is doing the voice of ILE

Oh wow thanks I never realized

So you're saying he is craving to be reunited with the mysterious colorful "O" shaped object that he once found on the gray tiled floor of the bathroom, when he was lying there to have his morning cry and noticed just above his head. Curious, he reached out and grabbed it between his two fingers and felt suddenly elated, complete again. So whenever he is in a stressful situation, he says "the O!" or "da O!" to recalibrate.

I'm so stupid

It's so much simpler than I thought

It's okay, Evan. Dan Castellaneta worked hard to cover up his Chicago accent, but there are a few "tells" such as this one.

That scene where Sideshow Bob keeps trying to break the rakes with his head. Why does he hate rakes so much?

he was trying to explain his thoughts on complex social issues and every time he said "I be leaf", the rake reacted

Krusty is a rake by blood iirc

I am given to understand that "eat my shorts" is actually a reference to Bart's longstanding hobby of writing, directing, and starring in brief films. He hopes (metaphorically) that audiences will enthusiastically consume them.

So when he says "eat my shorts," he's really saying "please voraciously watch my limited-duration movies."

maffew i must belatedly and abashedly recognise your genius

aw don't be abashed

Splash splash I was taken, abashed

along about a Saturday night

I was surprised to hear a podcaster I listen to casually drop the "that's where I'm a viking" expression the other day in the context of "that's where I'm at my peak contentment / comfort zone".

He does like to drop the odd Simpsons reference now and again, but it made me wonder how proliferate this expression is outside of ILX?

i think it's from the simpsons

haha

Just to say I've been having a bad health day and decided to load all answers on this thread, only made it to the bit where Tuomas' fluency in English is questioned but had an amazing time.