Mordy's Metal Listening Club - New Albums Every Monday

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Here I go in any case...

Sundar, Sunday, 25 April 2010 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link

I really dislike it so far (made it through the first 8.5 songs and will not listen to more right now). I can't quite explain why yet. Other than the awful heavy-handed orchestral writing, there's nothing obviously poor about their craftsmanship but something about their aesthetic really does not appeal to me and just leaves me irritated. I could imagine myself loving it, down to the ridiculous narrative, when I was 17-18 though.

Sundar, Sunday, 25 April 2010 18:14 (thirteen years ago) link

This said, it often takes me a while to get into something,

Sundar, Sunday, 25 April 2010 18:14 (thirteen years ago) link

OK, folks, here we go.

Amon Amarth, Versus the World, 1994
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61C%2BEgk9wWL._SS500_.jpg
Their fourth album, and the one that found them settling into the sound they've explored ever since.

GridLink, Amber Gray, 2008
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51-DgKbZpbL._SS500_.jpg
Ultra-tight grindcore featuring vocals from former Discordance Axis frontman Jon Chang. 11 songs in as many minutes.

Manowar, Sign of the Hammer, 1984
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61nnGV-rZIL._SS500_.jpg
Like Amon Amarth, this is their fourth album; but in Manowar's case, this album marked the end, not the beginning, of a sound. On later discs, they'd be just as aggressive, but more pomptastic and less rocking.

Interested to know everyone's thoughts!

Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 26 April 2010 11:40 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't know why I said the Amon Amarth album was from 1994; it's from 2002.

Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 26 April 2010 11:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Listening to Man O'War, is it me or is there something very slightly camp about them?

Neil S, Monday, 26 April 2010 12:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Thoughts about this record: not as "power metal" as I expected (much looser and self-consciously epic), very much influenced by Maiden, unsurprisingly I suppose considering the year of release. Presumably the proper power metal stuff came after this record?

Neil S, Monday, 26 April 2010 12:33 (thirteen years ago) link

PS Spotify link for Man O'War:
http://open.spotify.com/album/2Ry1UTk7LC4bpZ6cXiAdPC

For Amon Amarth:
http://open.spotify.com/album/2N4o8xXRlIRNa8Y4covLjp

No Gridlink, sadly.

Neil S, Monday, 26 April 2010 12:38 (thirteen years ago) link

"Thank you for the Kool Aid, Reverend Jim" lol

Neil S, Monday, 26 April 2010 12:58 (thirteen years ago) link

"Are you our god, or a man in a cape?" KBP to thread!

Neil S, Monday, 26 April 2010 12:58 (thirteen years ago) link

KBP is too scared to listen to metal. Bogans listen to synth pop from the 80s now.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 April 2010 14:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Awesome! Metal thread making my Mondays tolerant!

(Haven't heard this Manowar album yet, but yes -- Manowar is always super campy. That's the concept.)

Mordy, Monday, 26 April 2010 15:08 (thirteen years ago) link

I've heard other Amon Amarth and Man O'War records, just not either of those two. Have the GridLink, but haven't really listened to it since I was sent the promo. I remember thinking I had to be in a very particular mood to want to hear it.

he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 26 April 2010 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link

Some tips for appreciating Manowar: remember that the lyrics are not the music. The album cover and any band photos you may Google up are not the music. Yes, they're goofy looking. Yes, their lyrics wallow in a kind of machismo that our placid suburban middle-class upbringing and secondary/higher education have taught us is to be ridiculed. But can they write a riff? Hell, yes. Can they play their instruments? They can play the fuck out of their instruments. So shut off the part of your brain that reflexively snickers at things you might be embarrassed to be seen/overheard liking, and fully invest yourself in taking Manowar seriously for 40 minutes or so.

Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Monday, 26 April 2010 15:28 (thirteen years ago) link

The ManOwaR is not an obvious (thunder)pick, but Thor The Powerhead, Mountains and Guyana are three of their strongest songs, epic stuff. I get goosebumps when the song is introduced in the Hell on Wheels live album.

Also, some fanclub dude counted the times the word "metal" was uttered in each Manowar album. The average was around several dozens, but strangely it's nowhere to be heard in Sign.

no-nonsense, Monday, 26 April 2010 15:35 (thirteen years ago) link

^ the song="Thor"

no-nonsense, Monday, 26 April 2010 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Excellent, just starting the Amon Amarth now! I haven't heard this Amon Amarth album, had never even heard of GridLink, and haven't listened to this Manowar album since it was still current, so this will all be new enough for me, but I shouldn't have to bail out of anything!

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 26 April 2010 16:12 (thirteen years ago) link

I always prefer Hail to England over Sign of the Hammer, but it's still a solid album. "Guyana" and "Mountains" especially.

And I play Versus the World's "Death in Fire" all the time. I never tire of that tune, and it kills live.

A. Begrand, Monday, 26 April 2010 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

My first and fave Manowar album is Fighting the World, primarily for the totally awesome insane "Black, Wind, Fire and Steel," but this album is really great. Especially Guyana which has some completely gorgeous moments that I had no idea Manowar was capable of. I can see why unperson wanted us to listen to this unironically (or without looking for camp), because this song at least is totally good in a very sincere beautiful way. (Every time they sing Guyana, I keep hearing Diana, and then imaging that they're singing this to a girl.) That said: I think it's totally legit to appreciate Manowar songs for being completely over the top metal camp.

Mordy, Monday, 26 April 2010 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link

ooooooooooooooooooooh

http://i42.tinypic.com/6z3af8.jpg

StanM, Monday, 26 April 2010 18:21 (thirteen years ago) link

first riff on versus the world is THUNDEROUS

call all destroyer, Monday, 26 April 2010 18:57 (thirteen years ago) link

i remember streaming some of twilight of the thunder gods and not getting what the big deal was, so this is a good re-engagement opportunity.

call all destroyer, Monday, 26 April 2010 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Listening to Amon Amarth just now. On the first song and liking it so far, love the guitar solo.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 April 2010 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link

hahahah love the bell on the second track

call all destroyer, Monday, 26 April 2010 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link

amon amarth is on grooveshark for amurrcans, btw.

call all destroyer, Monday, 26 April 2010 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I got the sound of a phone dialling on the 2nd track then a scottish dude asked me to give blood. Damn spotify adverts.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 April 2010 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link

REMEMBER! PIRATING IS A CRIME! ARGH.

Mordy, Monday, 26 April 2010 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm not paying £10 a month premium just to listen to amon amarth, its good so far but I'd rather buy the damn thing for a tenner.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 April 2010 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Guitar sound is awesome on this, but the drum sound is argh.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 April 2010 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i know what you mean--i'd like the drums to be a little more aggro but it's not really bothering me that much

call all destroyer, Monday, 26 April 2010 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link

its that farting drum sound all the way through it, im not a muso so cant explain it, its all over most extreme metal albums and its always annoying. But you all know what I mean.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 April 2010 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link

back to last week's:
Fates Warning is the surprise. Im sure I mustve heard some of it when it came out, but its much better than I remembered FW being. Fantastic drummer, great songs, great solos...singing obv a bit dated and silly. Like that theyre somewhere midway between queensryche and iron maiden. Production is great too, if only more records sounded as breathy, open.

Siegbran, Monday, 26 April 2010 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

I wonder if this is what people mean by drum triggers? Someone needs to explain it to me. But it really is annoying me spoiling a really good record.
xp

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 April 2010 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Triggered drums are when the producer adds a sample drum sound on the beats to keep the kick drum tone as clean as possible. Lots of people hate it, but I'm fine with it in most cases. On this album the kicks are borderline intrusive, that's for sure, but that sort of adds to the whole cannonading fun of Amon Amarth. Gets the blood pumping!

A. Begrand, Monday, 26 April 2010 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link

CoF on the other hand so unsurprising. This band really put all their originality into their first album and then cruised all the way to the bank/goth chicks for the next 15 years. Its a nice franchise but it really depends on fresh flows of adolescents cause who would buy more than 2 CoF albums? Basically theyre the Insane Clown Posse of metal. And with all original non-Dani members now out they really have nothing going for them musically at all, so boring and predictable and stale.

Interesting to note that their debut was received very well in 'serious' metal press and many a tr00 metalhead I know liked it on first listen. Amazing how fast this band wears off.

Siegbran, Monday, 26 April 2010 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link

in conclusion--amon amarth fucking ruled, that's def going on the buy list, thx phil!

call all destroyer, Monday, 26 April 2010 19:49 (thirteen years ago) link

re: camp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH3LghdBWxc

forksclovetofu, Monday, 26 April 2010 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link

on to manowar now--this might be good, i don't know. i understand the point about turning your brain off a little but i hate 80s cock-rock vocals so so much

call all destroyer, Monday, 26 April 2010 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link

"mountains" is actually just disgusting

call all destroyer, Monday, 26 April 2010 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link

when did ross the boss leave?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 April 2010 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link

after kings of metal iirc?

call all destroyer, Monday, 26 April 2010 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link

bass harmonic melody plus volume swell pedal solo

call all destroyer, Monday, 26 April 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean, wow

call all destroyer, Monday, 26 April 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i hate this type of vocal mostly, but unlike with john garcia of Kyuss, i'll never be able to like them.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 April 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link

ok just gonna skip to guyana (cult of the damned) if no one minds

call all destroyer, Monday, 26 April 2010 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Love Guyana!

Mordy, Monday, 26 April 2010 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Manowar definitely lost something when Ross left. The riffs by the other guy are good, but always so darn stiff. Ross knew groove.

Oh, and Eric Adams and Ross the Boss are two of the nicest guys you will ever meet.

A. Begrand, Monday, 26 April 2010 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link

lol probably don't even need to say this but that was dict. definition of "not my thing"

call all destroyer, Monday, 26 April 2010 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link

time to track down gridlink

call all destroyer, Monday, 26 April 2010 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link

oh god is this a ballad?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 April 2010 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link


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