Joanna Newsom - Have One On Me (RIP blogs)

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oui

Turangalila, Sunday, 25 April 2010 04:05 (fourteen years ago) link

fuckin unicorns, how do they work?

ksh, Sunday, 25 April 2010 04:06 (fourteen years ago) link

idk

Turangalila, Sunday, 25 April 2010 04:11 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm stuck on the idea that Joanna killed a unicorn to make this record, apparently.

Melissa W, Sunday, 25 April 2010 04:38 (fourteen years ago) link

LOL

Turangalila, Sunday, 25 April 2010 04:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Maybe the subsequent mediocrity was punishment for killing such an innocent creature. :(

Melissa W, Sunday, 25 April 2010 04:42 (fourteen years ago) link

she slaughtered a whole herd, actually.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 25 April 2010 04:43 (fourteen years ago) link

How dare she?

Turangalila, Sunday, 25 April 2010 04:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Joanna is a menace.

Melissa W, Sunday, 25 April 2010 04:43 (fourteen years ago) link

only one survived the attack

http://wilwheaton.typepad.com/wwdnbackup/unicorn.jpg

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 25 April 2010 04:47 (fourteen years ago) link

just fyi when i said 'generous to the listener' i didn't mean in terms of, like, quantity; i meant that instead of the tightly personal and in-need-of-unscrambling mode that most of ys is written in, there's a bunch of stuff here that the listener can immediately go 'oh i recognise situation x or emotion y'.

thomp, Sunday, 25 April 2010 15:11 (fourteen years ago) link

also similar things musically.

thomp, Sunday, 25 April 2010 15:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Um...having never really dug Newsom before, this was my major entry point. It certainly lags at times, especially near the end, but Esme and Soft as Chalk are wonderful. In California is a thing of beauty.

Generous really is the right word for it.

Alex in Montreal, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 01:21 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm not sure what's caused the indifference from people who loved her going in, but persisting with the more unwieldy tracks is worth it in the long run.

Alex in Montreal, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 01:22 (fourteen years ago) link

http://gawker.com/5526284/justin-and-i-were-just-joking--you-actually-want-me-to-give-you-that

― ksh, Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:09 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark

they make a cuet couple imo

I have a big tv with blue ray's (latebloomer), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 02:01 (fourteen years ago) link

indeed

ksh, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 02:01 (fourteen years ago) link

there's one of them invisible jukebox things w/ her in the Wire this month. she seems like an ILM dream girl.

tylerw, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:30 (thirteen years ago) link

she sounds great in that video

ksh, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:32 (thirteen years ago) link

UNDER THE RADAR

"Issue #31
Issue #31 - Spring 2010 - Joanna Newsom"

http://www.undertheradarmag.com/issues/4478/

ksh, Saturday, 8 May 2010 22:30 (thirteen years ago) link

"I think I'm a weird compensator for shyness, because in certain circumstances I don't think I'm perceived as shy, but in others, it's very, very clear." - Joanna Newsom

So weird that a 28-year-old woman thinks it's of public interest whether she considers herself / is perceived as shy or not. (Even weirder that readers prob are interested.)

Mordy, Saturday, 8 May 2010 22:32 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah that was a bit o_O

silence is a rhythm too (Turangalila), Saturday, 8 May 2010 22:33 (thirteen years ago) link

judging quotes out of context is a bit o_O imo

ksh, Saturday, 8 May 2010 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link

the context was that is the splash quote.

Mordy, Saturday, 8 May 2010 22:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Always, I'm of the opinion that there are no circumstances, except maybe smoking a ton of weed with very close friends, where a 28 year old should be discussing how shy they think they are.

Mordy, Saturday, 8 May 2010 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link

especially not when a journalist is asking you a bunch of questions w/ the goal of writing an entire profile about you

ksh, Saturday, 8 May 2010 22:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, I understand she has a public artist persona and that in her private life is probably not as obnoxious. But I can only relate to her public persona and it's o_O to emote the least.

Mordy, Saturday, 8 May 2010 22:44 (thirteen years ago) link

i think she's come off as really smart, self-aware, and sweet in the pieces i've read about her, but it's alright, we just disagree

ksh, Saturday, 8 May 2010 22:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Clearly there are people far less shy than her, no? And answering questions from journalists is not exactly the same as being outgoing.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 8 May 2010 22:55 (thirteen years ago) link

"I think I'm a weird compensator for shyness, because in certain circumstances I don't think I'm perceived as shy, but in others, it's very, very clear." - Joanna Newsom

how are you all reading that? b/c i don't think i'm reading it the same way as y'all

ksh, Saturday, 8 May 2010 23:18 (thirteen years ago) link

i think she's saying "i'm shy, but sometimes i come off as shy and other times i don't"

ksh, Saturday, 8 May 2010 23:19 (thirteen years ago) link

which, to me, is hardly "obnoxious." if anything, she's just comparing how she perceives herself to how she thinks other people perceive her

ksh, Saturday, 8 May 2010 23:21 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm reading it the exact same way that you are, I just think it's totally inane. But 'shyness' as a social organizer lost its meaning for me when I was in like 5th grade, and I don't think I know anyone who would characterize themselves that way. It just strikes me as totally childish and cloying to call yourself shy, esp to a reporter, and esp with that kind of analysis (sometimes I come off as shy and sometimes I don't -- who cares??????).

Mordy, Saturday, 8 May 2010 23:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Like I have to wonder what kind of person she is to think people want to know how she characterizes her levels of outgoingness and whatnot. If she said that she's kinda withheld, or that sometimes she's reserved and sometimes outspoken, it wouldn't strike me this way. But it's this 'shyness' that annoys me. Especially because I don't believe it -- she's a public personality who is clearly tremendously outgoing in almost every element of her life (from the person she's chosen to date to the interviews she conducts to the kinds of music she makes) and when I hear her describe herself as shy it sounds like she's trying to present this image of a sensitive 11-year-old girl who is embarrassed around other people. Which is totally obnoxious coming from a clearly poised, intelligent, socially adept 28-year-old woman.

Mordy, Saturday, 8 May 2010 23:25 (thirteen years ago) link

alright, i bought this earlier today -- i'm going to go read the article now

ksh, Sunday, 9 May 2010 01:10 (thirteen years ago) link

mordy are you high or what

thomp, Sunday, 9 May 2010 01:12 (thirteen years ago) link

At the moment I am not.

Mordy, Sunday, 9 May 2010 01:12 (thirteen years ago) link

yep, it was in context. pretty good article too!

ksh, Sunday, 9 May 2010 01:31 (thirteen years ago) link

You are all having a very boring conversation right now, as much as I love it, lol.

Plus, this is a very, very good album that will one day be considered misunderstood and underrated in its time. It just gets better and better (really) the more we release the shackles of our oh-so-current expectations, ha ha.

Lostandfound, Sunday, 9 May 2010 05:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Plus, this is a very, very good album that will one day be considered misunderstood and underrated in its time.

The only place I've heard any dissenting notes about this frickin' album is here so don't scare me like that.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 9 May 2010 05:12 (thirteen years ago) link

ILX: Too pretentious for even Joanna Newsom

Mordy, Sunday, 9 May 2010 05:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Haha.

Lostandfound, Sunday, 9 May 2010 06:22 (thirteen years ago) link

http://pitchfork.com/news/38738-newsom-takes-on-gaga-madonna/

"I'm mystified by the laziness of people looking at how she presents herself, and somehow assuming that implies there's a high level of intelligence in the songwriting. Her approach to image is really interesting, but you listen to the music, and you just hear glow sticks. Smart outlets for musical journalism give her all this credit, like she's the new Madonna [...] Although I'm coming from a perspective of also thinking Madonna is not great at all. I'm like, fair enough: she is the new Madonna, but Madonna's a dumb-ass!"

Who knew Newsom had that kind of venom inside of her?! Not even Joanna herself, apparently, because she quickly realized the quote was a bit much, and later sent an e-mail to The Guardian clarifying-- though not taking back-- her statement:

"I may have contradicted myself. My problem isn't actually with Lady Gaga. But there's not much in her music to distinguish it from other glossy, formulaic pop. She just happens to wear slightly weirder outfits than Britney Spears. But they're not that weird-- they're mostly just skimpy. She's fully marketing her body/sexuality; she's just doing it while wearing, like, a 'fierce' telephone hair-hat. Her sexuality has no scuzziness, no frank raunchiness, in the way that, say, Peaches, or even Grace Jones, have-- she's Arty Spice! And, meanwhile, she seems to take herself so oddly seriously, the way she talks about her music in the third person, like she's Brecht or something. She just makes me miss Cyndi Lauper. [...] I shouldn't have called Madonna a dumb-ass. Her music and she have just gotten so boring to me, this last decade. I think maybe she doesn't hold her money very gracefully, the way some people can't hold their drink. But one thing she is surely not is dumb."

Mordy, Monday, 10 May 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link

is everyone on XL required to release a scathing soundbyte about Lady Gaga now

it means "EMOTIONAL"! (HI DERE), Monday, 10 May 2010 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link

From P4k's story Newsom Takes on Gaga, Madonna:

Like M.I.A., Joanna Newsom isn't buying into the Lady Gaga hype. In a recent article in The Guardian, the indie singer-songwriter-harpist had some choice words for the world's most fashion-forward pop star: "I'm mystified by the laziness of people looking at how she presents herself, and somehow assuming that implies there's a high level of intelligence in the songwriting. Her approach to image is really interesting, but you listen to the music, and you just hear glow sticks. Smart outlets for musical journalism give her all this credit, like she's the new Madonna [...] Although I'm coming from a perspective of also thinking Madonna is not great at all. I'm like, fair enough: she is the new Madonna, but Madonna's a dumb-ass!"

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1333/facepalmrs.jpg

ksh, Monday, 10 May 2010 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link

woops

ksh, Monday, 10 May 2010 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Dan, Newsom's on Drag City

ksh, Monday, 10 May 2010 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't like Newsom, Gaga, or Madonna (well, Madonna's got some okay stuff)
do I win a prize?

the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 10 May 2010 17:54 (thirteen years ago) link


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