This is quite a record. Holy moley.
― kornrulez6969, Sunday, 25 April 2010 02:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Here are some of my favorite moments:
You and Me, Bess - beautiful chord progression, love the trombone when it plays along with her wordless melodies at the beginning and during the choruses.
In California - "I don't belong to anyone / My heart is heavy as an oil drum" - great, sweet melody. "Some nights I just never go to sleep at all... etc." - such a sad passage. Dramatic timapanis!
Soft As Chalk - The sassy piano playing toward the end of this song really makes it for me.
Autumn - When the drums come in half way through, very dramatic - Neal Morgan does a fantastic job throughout this album.
Does Not Suffice - The wordless singing near the end always makes me very misty eyed.
Good Intentions Paving Company - Probably the single best track she's made. I would love to hear more like this. I wonder if she could do groovy songs with this, but using the harp.
― Moodles, Sunday, 25 April 2010 02:44 (fourteen years ago) link
I also think she hasn't gotten fair credit for her singing on this album. A lot of what I read basically makes it sound like she just toned it all down and that's it. Really though, she is doing so much with her voice - well beyond what most singers in the "indie" realm could manage. I would say that it is not just an improvement over previous albums, but just flat out excellent singing using so many different tricks and tools, covering a huge range, having amazing dyanamic control, and on and on. I can't say enough good things about the vocal performances here.
― Moodles, Sunday, 25 April 2010 02:47 (fourteen years ago) link
Even "Occident"?
― Turangalila, Sunday, 25 April 2010 02:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Occident is great too, I love the low piano notes between the verses, and the little half-step slurs she throws in that give the piano part a slight bluesiness. "The universe is getting loose" - nice one!
― Moodles, Sunday, 25 April 2010 02:52 (fourteen years ago) link
I mean the voice.
― Turangalila, Sunday, 25 April 2010 02:52 (fourteen years ago) link
The universe is diarrheic, I agree.
― Turangalila, Sunday, 25 April 2010 02:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Sure, I like her singing in that song.
― Moodles, Sunday, 25 April 2010 02:54 (fourteen years ago) link
I guess if you like her singing in general, I'm not really sure what on that track stands out as particularly bad.
― Moodles, Sunday, 25 April 2010 02:55 (fourteen years ago) link
OH OK
― Turangalila, Sunday, 25 April 2010 02:56 (fourteen years ago) link
This album is Serious Business®
― Turangalila, Sunday, 25 April 2010 02:59 (fourteen years ago) link
she's created a masterpiece plus some songs you don't care for.Not even, though. The songs were changed and rewritten and were basically different songs on the album. e.g., "Baby Birch" was stretched out into unbearable lethargic floatiness with the most tacked on non sequitur "resolution"). If they weren't completely changed, the recorded versions of a couple of the songs I found transcendent sounded deliberately watered down, anemic; like all the air was sucked out of the room when she recorded them ("Esame", title track).
― Turangalila, Sunday, 25 April 2010 03:35 (fourteen years ago) link
http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l1ctydbp761qzcmhxo1_250.jpg
― Turangalila, Sunday, 25 April 2010 04:04 (fourteen years ago) link
et tu, Turangalila?
― ksh, Sunday, 25 April 2010 04:05 (fourteen years ago) link
oui
― Turangalila, Sunday, 25 April 2010 04:05 (fourteen years ago) link
fuckin unicorns, how do they work?
― ksh, Sunday, 25 April 2010 04:06 (fourteen years ago) link
idk
― Turangalila, Sunday, 25 April 2010 04:11 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm stuck on the idea that Joanna killed a unicorn to make this record, apparently.
― Melissa W, Sunday, 25 April 2010 04:38 (fourteen years ago) link
LOL
― Turangalila, Sunday, 25 April 2010 04:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Maybe the subsequent mediocrity was punishment for killing such an innocent creature. :(
― Melissa W, Sunday, 25 April 2010 04:42 (fourteen years ago) link
she slaughtered a whole herd, actually.
― Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 25 April 2010 04:43 (fourteen years ago) link
How dare she?
― Turangalila, Sunday, 25 April 2010 04:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Joanna is a menace.
― Melissa W, Sunday, 25 April 2010 04:43 (fourteen years ago) link
only one survived the attack
http://wilwheaton.typepad.com/wwdnbackup/unicorn.jpg
― Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 25 April 2010 04:47 (fourteen years ago) link
just fyi when i said 'generous to the listener' i didn't mean in terms of, like, quantity; i meant that instead of the tightly personal and in-need-of-unscrambling mode that most of ys is written in, there's a bunch of stuff here that the listener can immediately go 'oh i recognise situation x or emotion y'.
― thomp, Sunday, 25 April 2010 15:11 (fourteen years ago) link
also similar things musically.
http://gawker.com/5526284/justin-and-i-were-just-joking--you-actually-want-me-to-give-you-that
― ksh, Wednesday, 28 April 2010 22:09 (fourteen years ago) link
Um...having never really dug Newsom before, this was my major entry point. It certainly lags at times, especially near the end, but Esme and Soft as Chalk are wonderful. In California is a thing of beauty.
Generous really is the right word for it.
― Alex in Montreal, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 01:21 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm not sure what's caused the indifference from people who loved her going in, but persisting with the more unwieldy tracks is worth it in the long run.
― Alex in Montreal, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 01:22 (fourteen years ago) link
― ksh, Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:09 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark
they make a cuet couple imo
― I have a big tv with blue ray's (latebloomer), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 02:01 (fourteen years ago) link
indeed
― ksh, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 02:01 (fourteen years ago) link
http://pitchfork.com/news/38701-video-joanna-newsom-performs-81-on-later-with-jools-holland/
― ksh, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:28 (thirteen years ago) link
there's one of them invisible jukebox things w/ her in the Wire this month. she seems like an ILM dream girl.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:30 (thirteen years ago) link
she sounds great in that video
― ksh, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 18:32 (thirteen years ago) link
UNDER THE RADAR
"Issue #31Issue #31 - Spring 2010 - Joanna Newsom"
http://www.undertheradarmag.com/issues/4478/
― ksh, Saturday, 8 May 2010 22:30 (thirteen years ago) link
"I think I'm a weird compensator for shyness, because in certain circumstances I don't think I'm perceived as shy, but in others, it's very, very clear." - Joanna Newsom
So weird that a 28-year-old woman thinks it's of public interest whether she considers herself / is perceived as shy or not. (Even weirder that readers prob are interested.)
― Mordy, Saturday, 8 May 2010 22:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah that was a bit o_O
― silence is a rhythm too (Turangalila), Saturday, 8 May 2010 22:33 (thirteen years ago) link
judging quotes out of context is a bit o_O imo
― ksh, Saturday, 8 May 2010 22:35 (thirteen years ago) link
the context was that is the splash quote.
― Mordy, Saturday, 8 May 2010 22:37 (thirteen years ago) link
Always, I'm of the opinion that there are no circumstances, except maybe smoking a ton of weed with very close friends, where a 28 year old should be discussing how shy they think they are.
― Mordy, Saturday, 8 May 2010 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link
especially not when a journalist is asking you a bunch of questions w/ the goal of writing an entire profile about you
― ksh, Saturday, 8 May 2010 22:43 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, I understand she has a public artist persona and that in her private life is probably not as obnoxious. But I can only relate to her public persona and it's o_O to emote the least.
― Mordy, Saturday, 8 May 2010 22:44 (thirteen years ago) link
i think she's come off as really smart, self-aware, and sweet in the pieces i've read about her, but it's alright, we just disagree
― ksh, Saturday, 8 May 2010 22:52 (thirteen years ago) link
Clearly there are people far less shy than her, no? And answering questions from journalists is not exactly the same as being outgoing.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 8 May 2010 22:55 (thirteen years ago) link
how are you all reading that? b/c i don't think i'm reading it the same way as y'all
― ksh, Saturday, 8 May 2010 23:18 (thirteen years ago) link
i think she's saying "i'm shy, but sometimes i come off as shy and other times i don't"
― ksh, Saturday, 8 May 2010 23:19 (thirteen years ago) link
which, to me, is hardly "obnoxious." if anything, she's just comparing how she perceives herself to how she thinks other people perceive her
― ksh, Saturday, 8 May 2010 23:21 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm reading it the exact same way that you are, I just think it's totally inane. But 'shyness' as a social organizer lost its meaning for me when I was in like 5th grade, and I don't think I know anyone who would characterize themselves that way. It just strikes me as totally childish and cloying to call yourself shy, esp to a reporter, and esp with that kind of analysis (sometimes I come off as shy and sometimes I don't -- who cares??????).
― Mordy, Saturday, 8 May 2010 23:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Like I have to wonder what kind of person she is to think people want to know how she characterizes her levels of outgoingness and whatnot. If she said that she's kinda withheld, or that sometimes she's reserved and sometimes outspoken, it wouldn't strike me this way. But it's this 'shyness' that annoys me. Especially because I don't believe it -- she's a public personality who is clearly tremendously outgoing in almost every element of her life (from the person she's chosen to date to the interviews she conducts to the kinds of music she makes) and when I hear her describe herself as shy it sounds like she's trying to present this image of a sensitive 11-year-old girl who is embarrassed around other people. Which is totally obnoxious coming from a clearly poised, intelligent, socially adept 28-year-old woman.
― Mordy, Saturday, 8 May 2010 23:25 (thirteen years ago) link
alright, i bought this earlier today -- i'm going to go read the article now
― ksh, Sunday, 9 May 2010 01:10 (thirteen years ago) link