that thing white ppl do when they disparage 'white ppl'

Holy Jesus and Mary Chain and Joseph.

one of the problems with using "white" as shorthand for "middle-class" or "dorky" or "liberal arts grad" is that it implicitly writes out all of the non-whites who literally exist in these spaces.

That's implicitly in my post. That's what I said I disliked.

well the thing is people's hearts usually aren't in the right place and they're not trying to have a constructive conversation - it's usually always as in "lol white people". i thought you of all people were into internet lols at the expense of others~

― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, April 23, 2010 11:54 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i dont think we disagree? what do you think im trying to say?

"heart's in the right place" "problematic"

Just call me racist.

u r not racist
u r white ppl tho

Not monolithically. Generalizing is not stereotyping, and it doesn't preclude the existence of people who don't fit. And "black majority," a phrase widely used and understood, narrows the group down quite a lot, and talking about black youth narrows the group further.

generalizing isnt stereotyping, but it suffers from some of the same discursive problems, doesnt it? and im not sure "black majority" is quite a widely-used and understood as you think!

jeez dude i dont think youre "racist"

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Then it's not as widely-used and understood as I think, but it's understood by the people I need to understand it, who are the people in my life I talk about race to. I talk about race A LOT, so forgive me for being glib and rushed and using generalizations.

<------ mad light though

Generalizing is fine place to start. If you end with it, you're not really generalizing anymore, you're recapitulating your argument.

There's a difference between being a bigot and a racist. Everyone's racist. Certainly I am. And I have said so to my lol black friends.

Solved: Why White Ppl are Assholes

i dont even know what youre talking about now

max is a racist

we're all racists

I mean that we are not colorblind, or just blind! We see differences in culure, personality and physical characteristics. To pretend that we don't is silly, naive, whatever. That doesn't mean that you don't distinguish between the structural and the behavioral roots of problems, that you become a bigot, that you value the dominant culture more, that you don't put a check to predispositions to prejudice, or that you don't reason with yourself about matters of race. You DO have to reason with yourself about race. You aren't born knowing what you need to know about it, whether you're white or not.

^^^ I'm assuming this is not controversial. Tell me if it is.

culure = culture, obv

http://religionandterror.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/blacks-vs-whites-after-civil-war.jpg

So far the only funny one has been the MJ "Thriller" gif.

Faygo a little funny. White and black dude a teensy bit.

What exactly is a white person?

I don't mean to sound baiting, or like a troll. But like, when people talk about 'white people,' esp in the US, don't they tend to mean someone of light complexion whose family immigrated here more than X number of years ago? Because recent immigrants don't fit into the rubric easily (and there's a whole history of ethnic groups BECOMING white over time...)

can we talk about music in here

no "I'm white btw" yet?

A bit obvious to deconstruct "white" like that, unless you actually want to know what it is.

A "female friend" weighs in: "And sometimes it does a disservice to frank acknowledgement of sociocultural inequity to focus on exceptions-i tended to be one w/regard to gender but it would be disingenuous to equate my exceptionality with any sort of norm."

Somewhat similar to this is men who disparage "men" usually from a feminist perspective - eg., talking about how "men" should step aside and let women run things, seeing how men have managed to thoroughly screw up the planet, and so on. This seems a little more serious to me than the racial version, which is usually played for laughs, since you could make a case from a biological perspective that men are more prone to violence or other undesirable behavior.

I find 'black' and 'white' increasingly problematic. Black people are brown and white people vary from pale yellow(ish) to my own lovely shade of pink and the constructs of 'white' and 'black' as cultures (aside from mere pigmentation) are ones that I find increasingly annoying whatever their historical and indentific realities so I try not to diss 'white people' and save my ammo for specific assholes.

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'black' and 'white' might be made up but that doesn't mean they are not real

anyway, james longstreet zazzle tshirt, yall

A bit obvious to deconstruct "white" like that, unless you actually want to know what it is.

I'm just curious what this thread is about. I assume it's not about White Anglo-Saxon Protestants disparaging the *wrong* (Jewish? Catholic?) kinds of whites. It really means something closer to "hipsters disparaging their parents" right?

basically "liberal guilt" vs "redneck humor"

Liking The Wire - white

Black people are brown and white people vary from pale yellow(ish) to my own lovely shade of pink

This is bordering on truism. The rest of that I basically agree with, although it's not functional if you want to talk about "white culture" and "black culture."

Yeah, this is about white guilt.

black people can also be yellow or pink btw

"hipsters disparaging their parents" right?

Yeah.

&xxpost yeah

I mean, I can introduce to cousins of mine who have two African-American parents who have natural red hair and green eyes

Does anyone remember an article from around the 4th season of the Wire about an academic who was watching the show with kids living in that community? (Ie: Stfu wrt liking the wire = white.)

xpost We know this stuff.

then act like it

I mean, I can introduce to cousins of mine who have two African-American parents who have natural red hair and green eyes

― HI DERE, Friday, April 23, 2010 11:39 AM (49 seconds ago) Bookmark

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I can introduce to cousins of mine who have two African-American parents who have natural red hair and green eyes

Espcially down with this if they are girls and cute.

Ha ha goole. Beat me to it.

I said that for lulz, Mordy. Oh, and it's true.

naw jk

(true)

social constructivists - white

Well one is actually my mom's cousin and is 70. The other is 34 and had a baby with one of the dudes from Bone Thugs and Harmony.

Okay, if I disparage white people, it's usually those parts of my family who are white, Protestant Christian, racist (and not as good at hiding it as they like to think), jingoist, eat shitty food, have an annoying chip on their shoulder about me thinking this of them, and with whom I can have neither a fun time nor a good conversation and what I hate about them most is their assumption that, since I'm a white American male, I will automatically share their stupid prejudices.

i notched white on my census form, but i was kinda bummed. wanted to list as Jewish, but i guess it's for the best that there isn't such a choice (lul jews + lists). Besides, from experience (doing 20th century census analysis for classwork) i'm sure future scholars won't have any trouble figuring out that m0rd3ch4i s41n3f13ld was jewish.

How, Dan? Act like it how? That's some condescending bullshit to presume that people don't have eyes, or some ilxor's never heard of Wallace Thurman.

Because recent immigrants don't fit into the rubric easily (and there's a whole history of ethnic groups BECOMING white over time...)

Sorry, Mordy, I missed this. Hispanics coming to US, used to be "white," now "hispanic," blah blah. Yeah.

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