McCoy Tyner

oh here it is for all mccoy tyner stans everywhere

http://jazz20.bloringa.net/post-1088868.html

thanks bro

i remember alphonse mouzon being sick on this

more mainstream-y by definition, but i really like McCoy's Ellington album. Nice light touch, swinging feel. If I'm not mistaken, the album was recorded same day (or maybe week?) as Love Supreme, which is just ridiculous. Haven't heard a lot of his earlier Impulse records ... Or his 70s stuff, actually. Need to get on that!

and of course, it has to be said that the guy's solo on "my favorite things" is like top ten best moments in music ever.

assumed this'd been revived for the new one, 'guitars', with tyner's trio and Derek Trucks, Bela Fleck, Bill Frisell, John Scofield, Marc Ribot. (Although not, sadly, all at the same time.) Trailer for it: fairly cool.

Would quite like to have a full CD of McCoy and Marc playing free — the two minutes of it on the site trailer are really pretty and affecting, and you have to wonder where else they could take it. The first track on the album is a minute and a half long improvisation with the two of them; then there's a full band thing with Ribot again which does fall into the presumable trap of just not sounding quite comfortable, but not uncomfortable in an interesting way ...

(Like, Marc's free playing with McCoy has e-bow and muted scrapy noises — playing in a taking-turns-playing-solos context he can't do so much of that stuff — but still plays with a rock-band sounding level of distortion etc., but less productively.

DeJohnette is drumming WAY loud.)

PLEASE DON'T USE THE WAH PEDAL, MARC

I can't really stomach any of those guys except Ribot

I really can't supply an informed opinion on any of them, tbh

The first Fleck track (technically not involving guitar) is really great — droney banjo that sounds vaguely like something I have heard before — possibly serpent power?

Scofield on 'Mr P.C.' is fairly okay.

I also haven't liked anything new from Tyner in a long time.

Erm, I mean I guess I haven't liked anything new from Tyner since I've been listening to jazz. I wasn't even born when his best records came out.

picked up 'Trident' on vinyl for cheap over the weekend, such a great record. the first track sounds like a vamp for a pop song but still totally works with their style.

still don't have a copy of 'Enlightment'. :/

excited because there is a cheap-ish copy of enlightenment near work (i think) and i checked this thread to see if it was worth getting and i am totally picking it up after work (if that is the album i saw in the racks) (and if it is still there)

got inner voices for £4 the other day at flashback and am really liking it, even if its an unusual record for him. reminds me a bit of alice coltrane's om supreme, with all the vocals and harmonies, which is my favourite alice track of all

good late night listening is the One on One album (not the UKIP mano a mano version obv :p) with Stephane Grappelli, so elegant and beautiful.

I've been listening to a ton of Tyner recently. His Milestone run is exceptional, and the records are generally cheap and plentiful.
Trident, Sama Luyaca, Focal Point are all still really, really good.

thanks for the reminder, I have Sahara and an Impulse best-of 2LP but yeah those Milestone releases are cheap and good

Funnily enough I don't think a whole lot of his Impulse releases. They're extremely tame compared to what Coltrane got out of him. Still he more than made up for it later. Keepnews was a good partner for him in terms of keeping the record concepts fresh without getting too gimmicky.

I was thinking it would be great if there was a box set of his Milestone albums (the Joe Henderson Milestone box is fucking fantastic) but there are 19 of them. Insane.

I totally love his impulse albums, Inception and the plays Duke Ellington one are classic!

I haven't dug into his Impulse catalog, but I love his Blue Note stuff, especially Extensions, The Real McCoy, and Tender Moments, which you'd probably expect to be a trio ballad date 'cause of it's title, but it's actually a kick-ass nonet album with Lee Morgan on trumpet, Julian Priester on trombone, Bob Northern (aka Brother Ah) on French horn, Howard Johnson on tuba, James Spaulding on alto sax and flute, Bennie Maupin on tenor sax, Herbie Lewis on bass, and Joe Chambers on drums.

Trident is an incredible album, my favorite of the six or seven tyners I know

Enlightenment pretty sick too

I picked Trident up by chance a while back and it's become a favorite. Celeste & harpsichord! At the same time! Not to mention a reunion with Elvin Jones.

Over on the music to get sober to topic, we had a small McCoy Tyner discussion going. I've only three of his leader albums: The Real McCoy, Enlightenment, and Supertrios. Enlightenment is, far and away, the best of them. I've always been really intimidated by the size of his catalogue as a leader, so I've stuck with those three for years.

just listen to it once earlier, but the latest Benito Gonzalez lp: Passion Reverence Transcendence - The Music of McCoy Tyner sounded rather good.

thread bump of fear

but yeah one day i need to actually properly dig into his catalogue, there's a lot of it and i haven't heard anything bad yet

He looks too healthy and busy to die yet, famous last words.

I know a guy who hates Benito, says he a one trick pony, but I think he’s great.

I thought I heard multiple tricks!

Ha, yeah exactly

Back in March I reviewed all 19 albums he recorded in the 1970s, first on Blue Note and then on Milestone:

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5

damn, good runthrough, this might be what finally gets me into '70s tyner

Trident rules super hard

Tyner played with a ton of great musicians and like many of his era in jazz, there are other great appearances as a sideman. The couple of mid 60s records he did with Joe Henderson are worth checking out, as the tunes have a different groove than the Coltrane band.

thanks for that link phil, love the few 70s mccoy albums i own and am always up for more

"Trident" and "Fly To The Wind" : two of my favorite Sunday morning back-to-back listens

Fly With The Wind
I actually used to put that title track on mix tapes for people when I was a teen. I'd completely forgotten though.. need to go give it a listen

Song Of The New World is incredible as well, probably my fave of his 70's period.

I haven't heard much of Tyner's Impulse stuff as a leader, but his BN run is good to great and his Milestone run is nothing short of incredible. I think having a sympathetic, creative producer in Orrin Keepnews did a lot toward keeping him sounding fresh over a nearly a decade of two releases a year.

Fly With The Wind

OMG thank you guys so much for recommending this. Instant favorite.

still think Passion Reverence Transcendence: The Music of McCoy Tyner by Benito Gonzalez is really excellent, so uplifting.

good god do not scare me with this revive like that

I just heard Tender Moments for the first time the other day. Basically Tyner with Lee Morgan's band right? Great stuff, but why expect anything else? His standard of quality over the years was amazingly high.

good god do not scare me with this revive like that

Seriously.

And yeah, Tender Moments is amazing. Rarely has an album so totally failed to live up to its title. That thing smokes.

saw this revive and felt sick to my stomach

will check the benito

Basically whenever I'm in a record shop I check if they have any McCoy Tyner, and if I don't have it I buy it, and I'm never disappointed

Not to mention he’s usually light on the wallet

RIP to the great one. What a career, what music.

Ugh. RIP

oh man no. RIP

:(

RIP

Rest in peace. You gave us such beauty.

alphonse is right, Mind Transplant is a ripper

listening to enlightenment this morning and feeling like i'm at the center of an infinite spiral

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnQJsrUYb8Q

^This version particularly good. Nate Chinen embedded it in his obit here: https://www.npr.org/2020/03/06/812940062/mccoy-tyner-groundbreaking-pianist-of-20th-century-jazz-dies-at-81

Such beautiful music. 'Extensions' and 'Sahara' are probably my favourites, but I'd never listened to 'Enlightenment' till this morning so what do I know.

Been digging into Tyner some lately and have spent some time with Atlantis — straight fire, like a damn freight train.

Was listening to Alice Coltrane's Huntington Ashram tonight, and some of the piano later on the album really reminded me of McCoy. Did they ever collaborate?

Yeah; she's on his album Extensions.

Ah! I only have mp3s of that one [and thus no sleevenotes] but it's one of my favourites of his

Love this set, for the music, but also for the audience shots of blissed out mid-70s Europeans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrZkbSeyF6M

Amazing - thanks for sharing

RIP Juini Booth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P7mPNvwMYM

RIP, but also yes, I love this particular band and it's great to see what Alphonse Mouzon is actually doing. Those 90' cymbals and perfectly flat drums!