I liked how effectively he trolled Republicans
otherwise what a useless fascist he was imo
― brad whitford's guitar explorations (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 22 April 2010 03:12 (fourteen years ago) link
not to get all gabbneb here, but i still stand behind this 7-year-old post:
This thread should be revived.Clinton is looking better and better every day, no? Best President we had since Truman if you ask me.
― Tad (llamasfur), Wednesday, October 9, 2002 2:15 AM (7 years ago) Bookmark
― the return of the Great White Douche (Eisbaer), Thursday, 22 April 2010 03:20 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNoN403tXU4
― Throwing Muses are reuniting for my next orgasm! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 April 2010 03:20 (fourteen years ago) link
bill clinton was greatfor me to poop on
― velko, Thursday, 22 April 2010 03:24 (fourteen years ago) link
ban cankles
― ksh, Thursday, 22 April 2010 03:27 (fourteen years ago) link
RIP
his rep is downgraded b/c of the role his administration played in setting the stage for our current economic shitbin ... though that's kind of like blaming Eisenhower for everything that went wrong in Vietnam.
― the return of the Great White Douche (Eisbaer), Thursday, 22 April 2010 03:28 (fourteen years ago) link
Ehhh not quite accurate. The existence of another depression earlier in the century should have warned Rubin, Sumners, et al against the perils of deregulation and gutting Glass-Stegall. Meanwhile not all of Eisenhower's indefensible proxy wars in Third World countries blew up in our faces.
― Throwing Muses are reuniting for my next orgasm! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 April 2010 03:30 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, so back when the economy was first blowing up ppl were saying "This is Clinton's fault. He passed some housing act in 1996." Didn't he also have a republican senate & congress during this time?
― Adam Bruneau, Thursday, 22 April 2010 03:31 (fourteen years ago) link
for all his flaws Eisenhower is probably the best post-WWII president actually.
― Throwing Muses are reuniting for my next orgasm! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 April 2010 03:31 (fourteen years ago) link
nafta sure was awesome for the american worker
― velko, Thursday, 22 April 2010 03:38 (fourteen years ago) link
can someone inform me on dennis perrin's views on bill clinton? i'm at the edge of my seat here
― artie flange (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 22 April 2010 03:41 (fourteen years ago) link
clinton as the least-worst post-truman president seems pretty reasonable to me.
― iatee, Thursday, 22 April 2010 03:43 (fourteen years ago) link
well, i was getting at Clinton's appointments of Summers and Rubin and not the wingnut blather about lending to lower-income people.
but yes, had the Congress not been stacked to the gills w/ Republicans after 1994 then it's quite possible that Glass-Steagall wouldn't have been repealed or Phil Gramm's sneaky-ass shenanigans that kept derivatives unregulated.
― the return of the Great White Douche (Eisbaer), Thursday, 22 April 2010 03:49 (fourteen years ago) link
... or Phil Gramm's sneaky-ass shenanigans that kept derivatives unregulated would never have been passed (i meant to say).
― the return of the Great White Douche (Eisbaer), Thursday, 22 April 2010 03:51 (fourteen years ago) link
Bosnian blood-red
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 April 2010 03:52 (fourteen years ago) link
being the best prez since freaking truman isn't exactly an honor
― my two percent's worth (k3vin k.), Thursday, 22 April 2010 04:09 (fourteen years ago) link
that wd still probably be LBJ over GHWB
(both killers too, obv, tho not on Truman's savage scale)
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 April 2010 04:11 (fourteen years ago) link
morbs i'm betting there is no president ever who qualifies as non-war criminal, yes?
― goole, Thursday, 22 April 2010 04:17 (fourteen years ago) link
bill pullman?
― artie flange (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 22 April 2010 04:18 (fourteen years ago) link
i was gonna say William Henry Harrison -- b/c he was President for all of, what, a month? -- but then i remembered that he was a general during the War of 1812 and he killed lots of Indians (before he became President).
― the return of the Great White Douche (Eisbaer), Thursday, 22 April 2010 04:21 (fourteen years ago) link
morbs: so lbj's good deeds make up for him being 10x the war criminal that clinton was?
― iatee, Thursday, 22 April 2010 04:23 (fourteen years ago) link
false premise
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 April 2010 04:25 (fourteen years ago) link
so then you liked GHWB?!?
― the return of the Great White Douche (Eisbaer), Thursday, 22 April 2010 04:31 (fourteen years ago) link
Nader would have been awesome
― solid yet bouncy (herb albert), Thursday, 22 April 2010 04:34 (fourteen years ago) link
^cosign
― Adam Bruneau, Thursday, 22 April 2010 04:42 (fourteen years ago) link
No Eisbaer, I don't like presidents. I find GHWB marginally less bad than the others from Nixon onward.
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 April 2010 04:47 (fourteen years ago) link
they might be war criminals but theyre exceptional war criminals
― my two percent's worth (k3vin k.), Thursday, 22 April 2010 04:48 (fourteen years ago) link
New PBS documentary on Bubba.
What the film doesn’t do is give viewers a more compelling reason to go back and relive that epoch. The film hits all the familiar Clinton milestones — childhood in Hot Springs, Ark.; abusive stepfather; Oxford; courtship of Hillary Rodham; the Arkansas gubernatorial races; Gennifer Flowers; Travelgate; Somalia; Whitewater; etc. — without exploring the deeper happenings that turned out to have had a more lasting impact on the world.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 February 2012 03:32 (twelve years ago) link
the fulfillment of Reagan. deserves the hottest place in hell.
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 February 2012 09:44 (twelve years ago) link
so much better than Obama, tho
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 February 2012 09:45 (twelve years ago) link
does Obama get the second-hottest place plus eternal jock itch?
― plee help i am lookin for (crüt), Monday, 20 February 2012 09:53 (twelve years ago) link
Clinton's worst policies had so many aiders and abettors that it seems wrong to pour all the blame on his head. The great frustration is that most of these allies were repulsive folks like Phil Gramm. And when the electorate turned in 1994, Bill just grinned, turned with them and paddled with the current.
But, as much as I hated it when it happened and cannot conceive the shallowness it implies, it is true that the electorate turned hard right in sufficient numbers to put a solid right wing majority into Congress. As soon as that happened, shit was bound to follow. Bill was just the Weather Vane in Chief during his second term. All the impeachment stuff later on just shows how freaking insane the nation had become.
― Aimless, Monday, 20 February 2012 18:31 (twelve years ago) link
most ppl opposed impeachment throughout that whole thing, to the point where right-wing pundits began fretting about the imminent end of western civilization, etc.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 20 February 2012 18:37 (twelve years ago) link
Didion's great "Vichy Washington" is the elegy for that sad era.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 February 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link
most people were opposed to the impeachment, but an awful lot of the pundit class (and not just the usual right-wing suspects) supported it.
― Puppenmeister Meisterpuppen (Eisbaer), Monday, 20 February 2012 19:17 (twelve years ago) link
USA pundits tend to nurture their sense of profound personal gravitas, and anything that might be construed as condoning the Lewinsky affair would go against that basic instinct.
― Aimless, Monday, 20 February 2012 19:20 (twelve years ago) link
It's on.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 02:11 (twelve years ago) link
^^ Sounds like what they would whisper in the halls before a rumble.
― Aimless, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 02:24 (twelve years ago) link
What I figure a gr8080 presidency would look like:
http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/ht_bill_clinton_porn_stars_lpl_120524_wblog.jpg
― clemenza, Saturday, 26 May 2012 00:54 (eleven years ago) link
Excerpt from Sean Strub's new book on Clinton's lousy AIDS policies:
http://www.salon.com/2014/02/01/bill_clintons_lgbt_shame_where_was_he_then/
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 2 February 2014 01:38 (ten years ago) link
not sure why more than doubling funding for aids/hiv research or more than tripling funding for aids/hiv care or establishing a permanent office of aids research at the nih is 'lousy' but whatever
― balls, Sunday, 2 February 2014 01:53 (ten years ago) link
The Clinton administration sabotaged HIV prevention and treatment efforts in other ways. One concerned intellectual property rights controlling the use of generic medications around the world. Near the end of Clinton’s presidency, we learned from a leaked State Department memo that former vice president Al Gore had exerted pressure on South Africa to rescind legislation allowing use of generic anti-retrovirals at a vastly lower cost, rather than paying U.S. companies their huge markups. Gore’s senior campaign staff included several people who had been lobbyists for the pharmaceutical industry.
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 2 February 2014 04:52 (ten years ago) link
mere bag o' shells to Captain Save-a-Bubbas who can't read, apparently
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 2 February 2014 06:41 (ten years ago) link
"awesome communicator"
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/george-w-bush-bill-clinton-joke-around-like-old-buddies-1.2759571
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 9 September 2014 18:48 (nine years ago) link
whatever it takes to derail the '16 Express
http://gawker.com/flight-logs-put-clinton-dershowitz-on-pedophile-billio-1681039971
― touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Friday, 23 January 2015 06:50 (nine years ago) link
Will his tombstone say "Felt your Pain?"
― calstars, Saturday, 28 February 2015 17:26 (nine years ago) link
http://www.salon.com/2016/03/13/bill_clintons_odious_presidency_thomas_frank_on_the_real_history_of_the_90s/
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 14 March 2016 04:17 (eight years ago) link
dud
― hunangarage, Monday, 14 March 2016 05:16 (eight years ago) link
More often than not, the ex-president finds himself staying in hotels with nothing resembling a presidential suite; he typically overnights in Holiday Inn Expresses and Quality Inns. His aides say he's the least prissy member of his small traveling party—caring only that his shower has good water pressure and that the TV has premium cable so that he might watch San Andreas or one of the Fast & Furious movies before he drifts off to sleep. When he wakes, he often makes coffee for himself in his room.
http://www.gq.com/story/bill-clinton-health-trump-and-hillary
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 20 May 2016 23:26 (seven years ago) link