The _Avatar_ sequel, presumably also directed by James Cameron

hey u like something crappy it happens don't sweat it

yeah, i like u!

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i neither loved nor hated Avatar, but imo there's nowhere to go but up w/ any sequels, think it'll be pretty easy for them to make at least a slightly better movie with the same template/visual style

i mean it's such a boring readymade sci-fi 'world' as one movie that they can only improve on it by being forced to fill it with more details and stories and make it more lived-in.

I'd rather watch Stan Helsing 2

Doesn't matter if it's good or not it will make a zillion dollars anyways.

have been genuinely surprised/impressed with Cameron's recent capacity for putting his time/money where his mouth is re: the politics underpinning the movie

Loved it, fuck a script there's such a thing as world-building carrying the day. On board for more.

Really hoping the 2nd + 3rd movies aren't entirely based on the big bad US military coming back for more & the Avatarians fighting them again and again, yet succeeding cos Jake is 'the chosen one' in some prophecy or something.

i could do without ANY military stuff in the next few, because it was boring and dumb.

Yeah it would be so much better if the conflicts were like creature group v. creature group. Or maybe 'left over tech from human incursion causes conflicts between pandora beasts'.

next couple flicks will be all about satisfying the overwhelming demand from the fan community for more giovanni ribisi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mslJnkh5Pnw

yeah i will totally see this

“Right now we are planning our 3-D tour movie and James Cameron is directing it,” will.i.am tells VIBE. “We have the biggest director because we are the biggest group on the planet. The Peas are filming it in South America. People will be able to see us in the theater with the 3-D glasses and everything."

"There will be a storyline that Cameron came up with, which will be dope," the BEP frontman continues. "It’s a full-length film and it's based around our tour activities. We’ve toured from America and Europe, to the Middle East, South America, Asia and Africa. It’s not like we go, 'Yo, we are international, you know what I’m saying? London and Paris!' Nah, that’s just two cities. We want to go across the planet.”

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=42852

“I can tell you one thing about them,” Cameron laughs when Empire nonchalantly enquiries about storylines. “They’re gonna be bitchin’. You will shit yourself with your mouth wide open.”

cool guy

i wonder if the theaters owners know about this

ha ha

imagine saying this! you will shit yourself with your mouth wide open!

say what you will about the man, at least he knows his audience

There's gonna be three sequels for Avatar?! Seriously?

I mean, I liked it an all, but it didn't exactly scream "four-part movie series", did it?

Well, something has to support the Disney park in progress.

Cameron: You should make a Disney park based on "Avatar!"
Disney: What's "Avatar?"
Cameron: You know, the movie with the blue people?
Disney: "The Smurfs?"
Cameron: No, the other one. It made a billion dollars!
Disney: So did "Frozen." I think we'll make a "Frozen" park.
Cameron: Wait, wait! Does "Frozen" have ... a sequel?
Disney: Of course it does. We have at least one in the pipes, maybe two.
Cameron: Well, what f I told you "Avatar" had ... [looks at accountants and lawyers, who shake their heads cautiously) three sequels? [accountant slaps head]
Disney: Well, Jim, I would say that's starting to sound like some Disney numbers. Does it have a princess?
Cameron: It does!
Disney: We're in. Someone go tell Elsa the bad news that she's going to Epcot's Norway pavillion. Jim and I have to get to work spending some blue money.

Avatarier: More Avatarin'!

http://ew.com/tv/2017/09/27/avatar-2-first-look/

https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/avatar.jpg?w=2700

Imagine they're all blue, or most of them are.

“We never had this youthful element before, and that brings a different kind of energy to the film,” he says. “They represent the future generation of Pandora and play a very significant role — not just in this movie but throughout all the movies.”

I'd like to think that picture was taken of focus group kids after they got their own "first look" and were all, eh.

They mostly come in blue. Mostly.

I hope those kids are strapped in for the kind of career momentum that Sam Worthington has enjoyed.

whats an avatar?

http://ew.com/tv/2017/09/27/avatar-2-second-look/

https://hips.hearstapps.com/cos.h-cdn.co/assets/16/32/1470929175-hook-teaser.jpg

"now you kids better not plug your tails into anything!"

Imagine they're all blue, or most of them are.

Except the whitest kid, what a weird coincidence

RUFIOOOOOOVATAR xxp

could swear I've seen that kid second-from-the-left in something before

if you're talking about the Hook photo, he was in Band of Brothers

http://www.collectorsproof.com/uploads/bfadb5a8c2bab1cf8a738a21030eb04431bbc98126ef0a8624adff09.jpeg

he also looks a little like Carbone from the prequel Li'l Goodfellas.

no I am talking about the Avatar cast photo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNfhOEYg80c

cicieraga is god

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/avatar-way-of-water-runtime-1235251391/

lol over 3hrs. Sure thing. Jim. I want to see a cut that is entirely people speaking underwater.

"Blrrb. Blurrble blurb blur."

"Blurbbb!!! Blurrr bla blurb brbbble!"

sounds great

damien chazelle's three-hour star-studded comedy about the transition from silent to sound is a "tentpole"! a little ominous

I've seen the Babylon trailer enough times over the past month that they sure are trying for that. Then again, it's about the same amount of times I saw a trailer for that smash hit Amsterdam.

took me a second to remember that Babylon was not the subtitle of the new Avatar.

Amsterdam: The Way of Babylon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9MyW72ELq0

I feel in his heart of hearts Cameron would have preferred to just make an IMAX movie of people scuba diving, but he probably also thinks millions of people around the planet have been wondering what's up the magical world of Avatar and its colorful characters.

all I can think of are those sea monkeys that used to be advertised in the backs of comic books

"Blrrb. Blurrble blurb blur."

"Blurbbb!!! Blurrr bla blurb brbbble!"

omg someone call burt stanton, mystery finally solved

grimreaponium

“We’re in a different world now than we were when I wrote this stuff, even,” Cameron continues. “It’s the one-two punch—the pandemic and streaming. Or, conversely, maybe we’ll remind people what going to the theatre is all about. This film definitely does that. The question is: How many people give a shit now?”

The final runtime of James Cameron's 'Avatar: The Way of Water' is 3 hours and 12 minutes, three minutes shorter than 'Titanic.' pic.twitter.com/gLKPPHpSyA

— The Film Stage 📽 (@TheFilmStage) November 21, 2022

Well I’ve chipped in to the Let Cameron Be Cameron fund — $100 for four IMAX seats on the opening Friday night.

That a film more than 3 hours long just inelegantly and unclearly infodumps for its first 20 minutes is hard to forgive.

I'll never watch this on purpose, but I'm sure I'll eventually see the entire thing, bit by bit, spread across dozens of walks by bright TV displays in big box stores. Who needs movie theaters when I have Costco visits?

it seems kind of pointless to see this movie on anything other than IMAX 3D? (I haven't seen this movie)

you all are wrong this movie ruled

Otm

otm = out of your mind

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As someone who did see it in 3D on an IMAX screen — and largely enjoyed it — I can't fathom watching it in 2D on TV, much less on a smaller screen. It would be like watching a YouTube of a rollercoaster ride.

Does watching it on an IMAX screen also offer a better script and actual characterization?

Only in the future four+ hour extended version.

I do appreciate that James Cameron spent years and years making movies on the water, in the water, under the water, diving, floating, sinking, researching and developing state of the art FX, until he was finally able to create computer rendered water so realistic it is indistinguishable from the real thing ... and then populated the movie with 10-foot tall blue people.

Does watching it on an IMAX screen also offer a better script and actual characterization?

No but neither do rollercoaster rides.

There is a whole subset of youtube videos dedicated to roller coasters, they're kind of fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViSVOWv3Pp8

lol I enjoyed this movie, esp the water/whale stuff (I was also v v st0ned), but I also enjoy watching YouTube videos of theme park rides so I guess it tracks.

Is the new one available on Max the newest one?

endless exposition worldbuilding is just absolute gibberish to me, a grumpy elderly woman who enjoys Movies and Cinema that YOU sir James Cameron USED TO MAKE ugh idk why it irritates me so much but omg i could not have hated it more

shit absolutely fucks once they stop talking and start swimming and fighting, you'd love the final action scene

(saw it in liemax 3D and liked it enough I went again in local 3D, had not seen the first one until the reissue in November or whenever)

final action scene

which goes for about an hour forty if you want to skip ahead

you have mistaken me for someone else if you think i’m going to at some point “continue watching” and/or “finish the movie” or even “skip to the good parts”

https://media.tenor.com/images/3832e18bd9b1b83a21d03a80ca20b4e6/tenor.gif

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Lol at "liemax". We also only have one authentic IMAX here locally and I made sure to see it there and not the pathetic fake IMAXes

For future installments, Cameron will build a series of 100 GIMAX theaters — 32 stories tall, a city block wide — equipped with fully mobile seats that will rise, fall, and swoop through the air. It will raise the cost of the next film to $12 billion, everyone will make fun of him, and then he will gross $25 billion.

isn't that basically just the avatar ride in disney world?

Pretty much! Which is awesome fwiw.

For all its prettiness, a sad lack of imagination on display in this. The new Na'avi are just wet Maori stereotypes, and having them all talking English just lays bare how they're completely mundanely human in emotions and thought. The animals are all familiar aquatic animals with bits from other familiar species bolted on. They don't come up with anything really alien at all.

There is a very clear reason for that tbh

It’s an open polemic, not The Mote In God’s Eye

You can still make polemics interesting and not racist.

I watched this but shouldn’t have because I hated the first one. I hated this more - intensely, loudly witless and boring, and unforgivably devoid of imagination.

i thought the water/whale scenes in this were just brimming with wonder and beauty lol

prob my favorite “second act where all the narrative momentum disappears for whatever reason, usually bc of the temporary evasion of the bad guy” in a james cameron film

lol I enjoyed this movie, esp the water/whale stuff (I was also v v st0ned), but I also enjoy watching YouTube videos of theme park rides so I guess it tracks.

― Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Sunday, June 11, 2023 11:44 AM (four days ago) bookmarkflaglink

This is urgent and key for these films.

yeah are people watching this sober??

I tried watching this sober today. Lasted about 20 minutes. Nope. Gotta be in the mood for endless CGI “wonder”.

avatar ii is a non-racist movie imo

watched it sober on a big screen and loved it

big screen = imax 3d

Well-meaning but lazy cultural appropriation is still racist, just not Nazi racist.

naw

James’ sentence is true, and I’m not equipped to judge how the scales tip between lazy and well-meaning in this instance — but Cameron’s clearly foregrounding the references, and cast Cliff Curtis as the head wet guy.

Cameron is totally going to follow up "Avatar 5" with "Titanic 2," about the search for the sub in search of "Titanic." He's got the CG water FX down, the next few years will be spent working on the script.

in the same film

Avatar 5: Titanic 2

Sigourney Weaver has been attached to play the sub via motion capture.