i have "inception", got a super duper clean 80s fantasy vinyl reissue...anyway it is rad as fuk
― M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 3 November 2008 03:42 (fifteen years ago) link
i've been looking for enlightment for years after hearing a couple cuts.
― Jordan, Monday, 3 November 2008 15:57 (fifteen years ago) link
shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
0rangeandblackspines.w0rdpress.com
with o's instead of 0's
― HOOS HOOS HOOS on the autosteen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 3 November 2008 16:03 (fifteen years ago) link
why didn't i think of that
― Jordan, Monday, 3 November 2008 16:04 (fifteen years ago) link
oh wait, i did look for that when i found that site and it wasn't there.
― Jordan, Monday, 3 November 2008 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link
apparently enlightment wasn't on impulse.
― Jordan, Monday, 3 November 2008 16:06 (fifteen years ago) link
wtf i thought that was where i found it last night
― HOOS HOOS HOOS on the autosteen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 3 November 2008 16:11 (fifteen years ago) link
will check my history when i get home and link u proper
oh here it is for all mccoy tyner stans everywhere
http://jazz20.bloringa.net/post-1088868.html
thanks bro
― Jordan, Monday, 3 November 2008 16:16 (fifteen years ago) link
i remember alphonse mouzon being sick on this
― Jordan, Monday, 3 November 2008 16:17 (fifteen years ago) link
more mainstream-y by definition, but i really like McCoy's Ellington album. Nice light touch, swinging feel. If I'm not mistaken, the album was recorded same day (or maybe week?) as Love Supreme, which is just ridiculous. Haven't heard a lot of his earlier Impulse records ... Or his 70s stuff, actually. Need to get on that!
― tylerw, Monday, 3 November 2008 17:36 (fifteen years ago) link
and of course, it has to be said that the guy's solo on "my favorite things" is like top ten best moments in music ever.
― tylerw, Monday, 3 November 2008 20:35 (fifteen years ago) link
assumed this'd been revived for the new one, 'guitars', with tyner's trio and Derek Trucks, Bela Fleck, Bill Frisell, John Scofield, Marc Ribot. (Although not, sadly, all at the same time.) Trailer for it: fairly cool.
― thomp, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 20:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Would quite like to have a full CD of McCoy and Marc playing free — the two minutes of it on the site trailer are really pretty and affecting, and you have to wonder where else they could take it. The first track on the album is a minute and a half long improvisation with the two of them; then there's a full band thing with Ribot again which does fall into the presumable trap of just not sounding quite comfortable, but not uncomfortable in an interesting way ...
― thomp, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 20:16 (fifteen years ago) link
(Like, Marc's free playing with McCoy has e-bow and muted scrapy noises — playing in a taking-turns-playing-solos context he can't do so much of that stuff — but still plays with a rock-band sounding level of distortion etc., but less productively.
DeJohnette is drumming WAY loud.)
― thomp, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 20:19 (fifteen years ago) link
PLEASE DON'T USE THE WAH PEDAL, MARC
― thomp, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 20:21 (fifteen years ago) link
I can't really stomach any of those guys except Ribot
― Tyrone Quattlebaum (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 20:28 (fifteen years ago) link
I really can't supply an informed opinion on any of them, tbh
The first Fleck track (technically not involving guitar) is really great — droney banjo that sounds vaguely like something I have heard before — possibly serpent power?
Scofield on 'Mr P.C.' is fairly okay.
― thomp, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 20:37 (fifteen years ago) link
I also haven't liked anything new from Tyner in a long time.
― Tyrone Quattlebaum (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 20:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Erm, I mean I guess I haven't liked anything new from Tyner since I've been listening to jazz. I wasn't even born when his best records came out.
picked up 'Trident' on vinyl for cheap over the weekend, such a great record. the first track sounds like a vamp for a pop song but still totally works with their style.
still don't have a copy of 'Enlightment'. :/
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Sunday, 18 November 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link
excited because there is a cheap-ish copy of enlightenment near work (i think) and i checked this thread to see if it was worth getting and i am totally picking it up after work (if that is the album i saw in the racks) (and if it is still there)
got inner voices for £4 the other day at flashback and am really liking it, even if its an unusual record for him. reminds me a bit of alice coltrane's om supreme, with all the vocals and harmonies, which is my favourite alice track of all
― beer say hi to me (stevie), Thursday, 18 August 2016 13:02 (seven years ago) link
good late night listening is the One on One album (not the UKIP mano a mano version obv :p) with Stephane Grappelli, so elegant and beautiful.
― calzino, Monday, 24 October 2016 22:30 (seven years ago) link
I've been listening to a ton of Tyner recently. His Milestone run is exceptional, and the records are generally cheap and plentiful. Trident, Sama Luyaca, Focal Point are all still really, really good.
― Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 3 July 2017 17:03 (six years ago) link
thanks for the reminder, I have Sahara and an Impulse best-of 2LP but yeah those Milestone releases are cheap and good
― sleeve, Monday, 3 July 2017 17:13 (six years ago) link
Funnily enough I don't think a whole lot of his Impulse releases. They're extremely tame compared to what Coltrane got out of him. Still he more than made up for it later. Keepnews was a good partner for him in terms of keeping the record concepts fresh without getting too gimmicky.
― Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 3 July 2017 17:30 (six years ago) link
I was thinking it would be great if there was a box set of his Milestone albums (the Joe Henderson Milestone box is fucking fantastic) but there are 19 of them. Insane.
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 3 July 2017 17:33 (six years ago) link
I totally love his impulse albums, Inception and the plays Duke Ellington one are classic!
― calzino, Monday, 3 July 2017 17:46 (six years ago) link
I haven't dug into his Impulse catalog, but I love his Blue Note stuff, especially Extensions, The Real McCoy, and Tender Moments, which you'd probably expect to be a trio ballad date 'cause of it's title, but it's actually a kick-ass nonet album with Lee Morgan on trumpet, Julian Priester on trombone, Bob Northern (aka Brother Ah) on French horn, Howard Johnson on tuba, James Spaulding on alto sax and flute, Bennie Maupin on tenor sax, Herbie Lewis on bass, and Joe Chambers on drums.
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:02 (six years ago) link
Trident is an incredible album, my favorite of the six or seven tyners I know
Enlightenment pretty sick too
― or at night (Jon not Jon), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:24 (six years ago) link
I picked Trident up by chance a while back and it's become a favorite. Celeste & harpsichord! At the same time! Not to mention a reunion with Elvin Jones.
― Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 3 July 2017 18:56 (six years ago) link
Over on the music to get sober to topic, we had a small McCoy Tyner discussion going. I've only three of his leader albums: The Real McCoy, Enlightenment, and Supertrios. Enlightenment is, far and away, the best of them. I've always been really intimidated by the size of his catalogue as a leader, so I've stuck with those three for years.
― Austin, Monday, 3 July 2017 19:20 (six years ago) link
just listen to it once earlier, but the latest Benito Gonzalez lp: Passion Reverence Transcendence - The Music of McCoy Tyner sounded rather good.
― calzino, Sunday, 27 May 2018 19:27 (five years ago) link
thread bump of fear
but yeah one day i need to actually properly dig into his catalogue, there's a lot of it and i haven't heard anything bad yet
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Sunday, 27 May 2018 19:32 (five years ago) link
He looks too healthy and busy to die yet, famous last words.
― calzino, Sunday, 27 May 2018 20:04 (five years ago) link
I know a guy who hates Benito, says he a one trick pony, but I think he’s great.
― omgneto and ittanium mayne (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 May 2018 20:14 (five years ago) link
I thought I heard multiple tricks!
― calzino, Sunday, 27 May 2018 20:23 (five years ago) link
Ha, yeah exactly
― omgneto and ittanium mayne (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 May 2018 20:36 (five years ago) link
Back in March I reviewed all 19 albums he recorded in the 1970s, first on Blue Note and then on Milestone:
Part 1Part 2Part 3Part 4Part 5
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 28 May 2018 03:13 (five years ago) link
damn, good runthrough, this might be what finally gets me into '70s tyner
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Monday, 28 May 2018 03:25 (five years ago) link
Trident rules super hard
― cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Monday, 28 May 2018 12:42 (five years ago) link
Tyner played with a ton of great musicians and like many of his era in jazz, there are other great appearances as a sideman. The couple of mid 60s records he did with Joe Henderson are worth checking out, as the tunes have a different groove than the Coltrane band.
― earlnash, Monday, 28 May 2018 13:21 (five years ago) link
thanks for that link phil, love the few 70s mccoy albums i own and am always up for more
― Total Goat Rodeo (stevie), Monday, 28 May 2018 15:20 (five years ago) link
"Trident" and "Fly To The Wind" : two of my favorite Sunday morning back-to-back listens
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 28 May 2018 15:28 (five years ago) link
Fly With The WindI actually used to put that title track on mix tapes for people when I was a teen. I'd completely forgotten though.. need to go give it a listen
― kinder, Monday, 28 May 2018 18:19 (five years ago) link
Song Of The New World is incredible as well, probably my fave of his 70's period.
― calzino, Monday, 28 May 2018 19:44 (five years ago) link
I haven't heard much of Tyner's Impulse stuff as a leader, but his BN run is good to great and his Milestone run is nothing short of incredible. I think having a sympathetic, creative producer in Orrin Keepnews did a lot toward keeping him sounding fresh over a nearly a decade of two releases a year.
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 06:34 (five years ago) link
Fly With The Wind
OMG thank you guys so much for recommending this. Instant favorite.
― cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 20:53 (five years ago) link
still think Passion Reverence Transcendence: The Music of McCoy Tyner by Benito Gonzalez is really excellent, so uplifting.
― calzino, Wednesday, 7 November 2018 17:07 (five years ago) link
Legend. You listen to a bit of jazz piano and McCoy Tyner definitely had a singular sound. That Coltrane quartet had such a sympathetic nature, there are moments where John leads and there were parts when Elvin pushed but how Tyner would react to Trane in how he placed those chords sometimes in accompaniment was literally the bit that seemed to take the intensity over the top and raise the hairs on the back of the neck for listeners on those sax solos. I suppose some of it is similar to those extended intervals that Bill Evans and other would use, but Tyner would have such a unique way of rhythmically playing those chords. I'd say how how soloed with chords is a big part of that unique sound.
I've not heard but a sliver of Tyner's total recorded output, but I got to figure anything he ever played upon is worth hearing.
― earlnash, Friday, 6 March 2020 21:51 (four years ago) link
fucking Trident slays me every single timeRip
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Friday, 6 March 2020 21:55 (four years ago) link
Sama Layuca was another top album as well.
― calzino, Friday, 6 March 2020 22:18 (four years ago) link
blasting Sama now!
I love his whole Milestone run, and so did Orrin Keepnews, who recorded MT more than anyone else. What a body of work.
― justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 6 March 2020 22:38 (four years ago) link
farewell to the master, RIP
― Brad C., Friday, 6 March 2020 23:01 (four years ago) link
the greatest — The Real McCoy is one of those front-to-back classic albums.
― tylerw, Friday, 6 March 2020 23:15 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqDhFyXAvlgRIP
― Bstep, Friday, 6 March 2020 23:27 (four years ago) link
Ah man, RIP. This version was my go-to McCoy jam when I first heard him in my twenties, kind of still is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xey_OHwO8s0
Worth noting from the comments:
Rayy‘s Musikladen5 years agoMost energetic version ever, featuring The Real McCoy with an epic piano solo and Alphonse's drum 'carpet' in best Elvin Jones tradition. What a pity that the latter switched to mediocre fusion music later on.Alphonse Mouzon4 years ago+octopus34 Thanks so much - but I wouldn't call my 2011 Top Ten all-star straight-ahead jazz CD "ANGEL FACE" mediocre fusion http://www.tenaciousrecords.comAngel_Face.html or my classic jazz-fusion album/CD "MIND TRANSPLANT".
Alphonse Mouzon4 years ago+octopus34 Thanks so much - but I wouldn't call my 2011 Top Ten all-star straight-ahead jazz CD "ANGEL FACE" mediocre fusion http://www.tenaciousrecords.comAngel_Face.html or my classic jazz-fusion album/CD "MIND TRANSPLANT".
― panic-buying the upmarket pasta (Matt #2), Friday, 6 March 2020 23:37 (four years ago) link
:(
RIP
― romanesque architect (pomenitul), Saturday, 7 March 2020 10:28 (four years ago) link
Rest in peace. You gave us such beauty.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 8 March 2020 00:48 (four years ago) link
alphonse is right, Mind Transplant is a ripper
― justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 8 March 2020 15:44 (four years ago) link
listening to enlightenment this morning and feeling like i'm at the center of an infinite spiral
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 March 2020 17:22 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnQJsrUYb8Q
^This version particularly good. Nate Chinen embedded it in his obit here: https://www.npr.org/2020/03/06/812940062/mccoy-tyner-groundbreaking-pianist-of-20th-century-jazz-dies-at-81
― Lipstick Traces (on a Cigarette Alone) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 March 2020 03:50 (four years ago) link
Such beautiful music. 'Extensions' and 'Sahara' are probably my favourites, but I'd never listened to 'Enlightenment' till this morning so what do I know.
― cooldix, Monday, 9 March 2020 08:40 (four years ago) link
Been digging into Tyner some lately and have spent some time with Atlantis — straight fire, like a damn freight train.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 28 March 2021 18:10 (three years ago) link
Was listening to Alice Coltrane's Huntington Ashram tonight, and some of the piano later on the album really reminded me of McCoy. Did they ever collaborate?
― anecdotal certainly but not nothing (stevie), Sunday, 28 March 2021 19:45 (three years ago) link
Yeah; she's on his album Extensions.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 28 March 2021 21:03 (three years ago) link
Ah! I only have mp3s of that one [and thus no sleevenotes] but it's one of my favourites of his
― anecdotal certainly but not nothing (stevie), Sunday, 28 March 2021 22:15 (three years ago) link
Love this set, for the music, but also for the audience shots of blissed out mid-70s Europeans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrZkbSeyF6M
― Citole Country (bendy), Friday, 2 April 2021 17:13 (three years ago) link
Amazing - thanks for sharing
― anecdotal certainly but not nothing (stevie), Friday, 2 April 2021 17:55 (three years ago) link
RIP Juini Booth.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P7mPNvwMYM
― Planck Generation (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 July 2021 18:46 (two years ago) link
RIP, but also yes, I love this particular band and it's great to see what Alphonse Mouzon is actually doing. Those 90' cymbals and perfectly flat drums!
― change display name (Jordan), Monday, 12 July 2021 21:55 (two years ago) link