NME Top 100 British Albums Ever List

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because while lists are reasonably fun distractions they don't actually reflect how anyone listens to or is affected by music?

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The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 26 January 2006 14:44 (eighteen years ago) link

OK agreed. Yr point was the irrelvancy of lists, I thought you meant that 'concentrating on the new' was the right attitude.

Dr.C (Dr.C), Thursday, 26 January 2006 14:49 (eighteen years ago) link

It is not something to take seriously unless you are 18 and smoke pot everyday.

moron.

i am not a nugget (stevie), Thursday, 26 January 2006 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Sure, but I would also expect mags like that to be kind of reluctant towards having a "canon", which means they wouldn't produce all-time-best lists, but rather concentrate on what is current and new.

this seems a salient observation and i agree. though it would be interesting to see Touch do a top 100 albums - one assumes it would deliberately exclude 'NME music' in the way NME deliberately excludes 'Touch music' - the only overlaps being the Bristolian trip-hoppers, Dizzee and Roots.

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 26 January 2006 14:57 (eighteen years ago) link

That Kerrang is horrid, something I will never look at again.

It is not something to take seriously unless you are 18 and smoke pot everyday.

Stevie OTM, do fuck off

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 26 January 2006 15:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe 'A Night At The Opera' would/should make the ILM list too!

ILM would ignore metal more than any other genre (yes even more than British hip-hop and rnb).

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 26 January 2006 15:25 (eighteen years ago) link

you must admit Kerrang has no quality control: Funeral for a friend, Him, Slipknot, Muse, Fall Out Boy, Blink182, The Darkness, Lostphrophets, Green Day - the amount of kack front cover promoted is continual.

Yes some of the 4K and 5K album reviews of the more obscure artists may be OTM - but you can find out about those in Terrorizer or on the web.

Terrorizer £ 3.20 per mouth and Free CD
Kerrang £1.95 * 4 issues = is £7.80

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 26 January 2006 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link

you must admit Kerrang has no quality control: Funeral for a friend, Him, Slipknot, Muse, Fall Out Boy, Blink182, The Darkness, Lostphrophets, Green Day - the amount of kack front cover promoted is continual

But Terrorizer have covered all that Nightwish type shit. So it all evens out in my book.

I like the fact that kerrang is open to more indie/alt rock stuff(remember they have covered Cypress Hill and The Prodigy too) It's just a shame they seem to be more concerned with the bigger sellers or bands on big labels than some of the great stuff thats come out in recent years.
Isis, Electric Wizard, Jesu, Pelican, Sunno))) have never had Kerrang covers. It's time they did.

Have NME covered those bands at all?

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Thursday, 26 January 2006 15:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Electric Wizard - Dopethrone should be in that top 100!

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Thursday, 26 January 2006 15:41 (eighteen years ago) link

29) Led Zeppelin - II 1969
28) Nick Drake - Bryter Layter 1970
27) Polly Harvey - Dry 1992
26) The Smiths - Hatful Of Hollow 1984
25) The Kinks - The Village Green Preservation Society 1968
24) Pet Shop Boys - Please 1986


pet shop boys! yes! in your face er... every rock band ever!

piscesboy, Thursday, 26 January 2006 15:41 (eighteen years ago) link

In NME this week there was a little boxout where they mentioned Butthole Surfers and it said "(ask your dad)" after it, that made me smile

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 26 January 2006 15:45 (eighteen years ago) link

re:

Isis, Electric Wizard, Jesu, Pelican, Sunno))) have never had Kerrang covers. It's time they did.

Rock Sound magazine covers all those bands, but unfortunately also covers a lot of generic emo / hardcore / commercial rock tripe.

Have NME covered those bands at all?

The day the NME puts any other of those on the front cover - will never arrive. Can you imagine the NME trying to promote/understand the brilliance of Jesu - to a bunch of Kaiser Chiefs / Oasis / Doherty / Strokes loving plebs

Although I could see pre Mark Sutherland era Melody Maker covering Jesu, also Sounds would have had them on the front cover.

Britain does need some weekly opposition to the trad-rock songs NME and the no quality control Kerrang.

[correction: Kerrang is £1.99 these days not £1.95]

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 26 January 2006 15:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Whats Metal Hammer like these days? It used to be quite open minded in the early 90s. But Kerrang started covering a lot of the same bands they hadn't previously and Metal Hammer went more conservative about 10 years ago.
Probably havent bought it since then.

A weekly mag that covered everything and took risks would be great.

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Metal Hammer has improved in the past couple of years, it went through a ghastly nu-metal phase in the early 00s.

There is an extreme metal section, they also tend to cover all bases of rock / metal - therefore there are going to be sections that don't interest everyone.

I would say Metal Hammer these days is a combo of Kerrang, Rock Sound and Terrorizer.

However like Kerrang - quality control suffers particularly in the front cover dept, how many times has Him been on the front cover.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:10 (eighteen years ago) link

The ghastly nu-metal phase started in about 96 i think...

I think poor quality control for front covers is the same for all those magazines at any time of their existence, and not just now.

Remember all those shitty hair metal bands with covers who sold shitloads of albums but never got in writers polls cos they didn't actually like them(sorry ILM hair metal fans)

It's no different now. How many of the bands who get regular front covers actually get in the writers polls?

And NME always get accused of putting stuff on the front cover thatthe writers don't like but the editorial team insists so the magazine will sell.

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Rock Sound and quite often Metal Hammer have to rely on their covers because the mag comes in a sodding plastic bag so you can't check who's in it

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:30 (eighteen years ago) link

I never buy a magazine now from a newsagent unless i can read it first to see who is in it. Apart from The Wire, which I always buy.
I order LLSS and Plan B from their sites.

I'm sure putting cellophane on magazines must harm sales. Everyone I know likes to read it 1st.

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Some of you guys here will always be discontent with a list unless

1. The list pretends The Beatles never existed
2. At least half of the albums on the list are by African American acts.

Better realise you'll never see a list like that.

-- Geir Hongro (geirhon...), January 26th, 2006 7:23 AM. (GeirHong) (later) (link)

Confession: I only clicked on this thread because I thought I might get some classic Hongro action.


U NVR DISAPPOINT GEIRBOT.

gbx (skowly), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link

I do like how the Muse fanbase is actually a kinda precursor to the Arctic Monkey/Babyshambles "Buy any crap with the band's name attached to it" phenomenom, so both the NME and the Kerrangs have to make a token effort to attracting them.

You are insane. I mean, we all remember that time when Muse were on the cover of NME every week even before their debut album had surfaced - those were the days eh? (A better example might be Ash)

Mind you, I don't understand Kerrang's love for Muse bar their guitar tech-wankery articles.

Si.C@rter (SiC@rter), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Pob is on the front cover of Kerrang! this week. POB!

Raw Patrick at work, Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:58 (eighteen years ago) link

"Twit de twirrit de tiwit de de doo doo"

Oh, that's Bod, isn't it?

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 26 January 2006 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Pob was the one with the striped jumper who used to spit all over the camera lenses then write in it, and talked gibberish.

Toyah did the voiceovers.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 26 January 2006 17:22 (eighteen years ago) link

KERRANGGG!!!
http://www.westbergholtfc.co.uk/Images/lookas/Pob.jpg

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 26 January 2006 17:26 (eighteen years ago) link

They seem to have missed a trick by excluding some "NME music" The 2000 guitar picks would have looked better if instead of two Coldplay and The Kasier Chiefs they went with something slightly more out there like "The Coral" or "The Decline of British Sea Power"

No place for "Urban Hymns" again like with Radiohead and Blur they seem to have swapped the opinion of which they prefer there. Not even attampted to include anything like Duran Duran (Which was in th last top 100 of all time they did.) No "Metal Box", no "Hats", no "Heaven or Las Vegas" and no "Club Classics Vol. One"

MitchellStirling (MitchellStirling), Thursday, 26 January 2006 17:26 (eighteen years ago) link

...which, Geir, is precisely the correct attitude to have towards music, right?

No, because then you miss the point about good music, which is that good music is completely timeless. Like the old classical music from the 18th and 19th century, for instance.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:12 (eighteen years ago) link

More precicely: Music that only works within a certain chronological and/or cultural context doesn't deserve attention.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Isn't Anything is 500 times better than Loveless. It should still be in the list, mind. Round about 10 or 11.

The Cosh, Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Music that only works within a certain chronological and/or cultural context doesn't deserve attention.

Is there any music which works across all cultural contexts? As 'old' classical music from the 18/19th century certainly doesn't.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:17 (eighteen years ago) link

At least Radiator is on the list. One of the greatest pop albums of all time.

enjoy bell woods, Thursday, 26 January 2006 22:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Stevie OTM, do fuck off

-- DJ Mencap

True I'm not a fan of metal but with my comment I was actually just trying to be funny. If I offended instead, I'm sorry.

BeeOK (boo radley), Friday, 27 January 2006 01:30 (eighteen years ago) link

No Spinal Tap or Rutles? Have you Brits gone mental?

Klotz, Friday, 27 January 2006 03:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Man, that list is sheeeeyite. Arctic Monkeys at #5? The Fall at #91? Worst. List. Evar.

GLC, Saturday, 28 January 2006 07:10 (eighteen years ago) link

They need controversial picks to get people complaining about it which gets publicity and people will buy the issue.

Remember they included Andrew WK in their best albums list a few years back and White Stripes - Elephant was in it and that wasn't even out yet.

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Saturday, 28 January 2006 13:42 (eighteen years ago) link

According to NME, the Arctic Monkeys album is the 5th best album ever this week.

In half a year, it sucks bigtime and Arctic Monkeys is some shite bollocks that only sad wankers and old people (20 year-olds, that is) listen to.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 28 January 2006 21:37 (eighteen years ago) link

I find myself agreeing with someone who thinks Pornography was overproduced :-/

Onimo (GerryNemo), Saturday, 28 January 2006 21:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I just discovered I claimed "Pornography" was overproduced while what I wanted to say is "Disintegration" was.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 28 January 2006 22:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Ah, I get you now. Still WTFing on that Oasis jibe all the same.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Saturday, 28 January 2006 22:30 (eighteen years ago) link

"Pornography" isn't overlong either. I used to dislike it before but it has grown me alot. Still prefer "Faith" and "17 Seconds" over it though, because Lol Tolhurst is going a bit too bananas on his drumset on "Pornography".

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 28 January 2006 22:36 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Maaaaaahhh chichilla. WEZ LEMON JELLY

wang aaaaaaaaah!, Monday, 20 February 2006 22:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Audiences sometimes vote for recent stuff, without caring about whether it will last or not. I thought professional writers should know better though.

Whether or not Arctic Monkeys, Libertines, Futureheads, Kaiser Chiefs belong in a list like this will be more obvious in 5-10 years time. By now, sure, put them at the bottom of the list, put give them some time before you rank them among the ten best albums ever.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 02:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Plus the fact that any list that doesn't have at least one Beatles album in the Top 3, plus 2-3 more Beatles albums in the Top 20, is pathetic.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 02:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I was about to agree with Geir then I got an x-post.
Lucky escape.

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 02:13 (eighteen years ago) link


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