i mean especially ESPECIALLY if u want to write about music, rev. Who do you want to write for? writers writing for writers is a waste, imo, x1000 when it comes to music writing
― The BoyBoy Big HOO$ (deej), Wednesday, April 14, 2010 10:26 PM Bookmark
Of course when writing about musicians, one has to relate them to the broader contexts within which they operate, but when listening to something for my own pleasure, it's not a huge concern.
Unfortunately, my own music experience is currently not very social. I rarely talk to anyone about rap offline, except for my best friend, who mostly hears about stuff through me. Basically most of the people I currently know who are into rap are herbs who look at me sideways for ever having liked Jay-Z. Hard to sell those types on Waka Flocka Flame, you know? If this detracts from my abilities as a music writer, not much I can do about it.
― "lemonade" was a popular song and it still is (The Reverend), Thursday, 15 April 2010 06:42 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i have no idea of what's popular cuz we don't have rap radio here \(o_O)/
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 15 April 2010 06:44 (fourteen years ago) link
We have rap radio here but it never plays rap.
― "lemonade" was a popular song and it still is (The Reverend), Thursday, 15 April 2010 06:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Unless B.o.B. featuring some Vanessa Carlton lookin boy counts.
― "lemonade" was a popular song and it still is (The Reverend), Thursday, 15 April 2010 06:50 (fourteen years ago) link
thx for the jacka/husalah top 10s deej!
my sense of rappers' popularity is all screwed up anyway, so the ones who grab me are those with an easily identifiable thing they do beyond engaging with their context - vocal or lyrical personality, basically - which is kind of an intangible, case-by-case quality. a lot of the rappers i've got super into over the years i hadn't particularly noticed the first 4-5 times i heard them, and then something clicks. but i literally have no idea of which rappers are popular on the charts vs popular on the street vs popular here; everyone i talk to about hip-hop (you guys, the few IRL people i know who care) cherrypicks their favourites. when i realised b.o.b. was at no 2 or whatever i just went UHHHH WHAT because not one person i know ever mentions him (inc here!).
i get the impression that "popularity" is increasingly hard to get a handle on even if you're in the right social context, anyway - cf noz tweeting about nicki minaj the other night, and it seemed that no one could even agree whether she had buzz around her or not.
i've never been the "report what's popular" kind of journalist - predicting the Next Big Thing is a mug's game imo - but "report what's good" seems to do me well enough. still proud that my featurette on minaj last may was basically the first time her name was mentioned in a UK publication, and now look where she is.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 15 April 2010 08:18 (fourteen years ago) link
'Frontline' is a good time.
― forksclovetofu, Thursday, 15 April 2010 14:13 (fourteen years ago) link
DUB C HOL. LEE. SHIT.
that's the hottest shit i've heard in fucking forever!
hot damn.
around 4:37 or so he almost verges into a OG west coast version of "broken language"
unreal.
― fischer-price my first chukkas (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 15 April 2010 14:53 (fourteen years ago) link
YYYYEEEEHAW
http://www.skicarstunt.com/gl_jump2_w.jpg
― fischer-price my first chukkas (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 15 April 2010 14:55 (fourteen years ago) link
damn, son.
― neveragl story (zvookster), Thursday, 15 April 2010 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link
New Yelawolf, from some Cypress Hill tribute mixtapehttp://www.mediafire.com/?jzyotq1zxkz
― Bait Goin' Ham (makeitpop), Thursday, 15 April 2010 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link
lol i never realised husalah's name was as in hustler - had been pronouncing it as though it was an arabic name
some of the beats on this mob trial comp are seriously O_O - happy to hear the hyperactivity i loved about hyphy still latent in bay area rap
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 15 April 2010 16:42 (fourteen years ago) link
lol hus-allah
― nu bay deejoning (some dude), Thursday, 15 April 2010 17:02 (fourteen years ago) link
dying @ hus-allah
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 15 April 2010 17:46 (fourteen years ago) link
i thought this for weeks! and thought it was a v pretty name on some "i might call my kid husalah", the penny dropping was a let-down
― neveragl story (zvookster), Thursday, 15 April 2010 18:40 (fourteen years ago) link
jacka if it's a girl
― some dude, Thursday, 15 April 2010 18:48 (fourteen years ago) link
it is Hus allah, it's both joe
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_LEghlft43kU/Sdu_iqJPYjI/AAAAAAAAAbc/nzpNlEqK7CI/s400/790327.jpg
― Kyrgyham (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Thursday, 15 April 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago) link
HOOS-allah
― gucci mane leflaur leflah eshkoshka (The Reverend), Thursday, 15 April 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link
They pronounce it pretty straightforward here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yl7jSiWWOk&fmt=18
Any suggestions on where to start with Mob Figaz as a group, or are the solo albums the only ones worth hearing?
― Bait Goin' Ham (makeitpop), Thursday, 15 April 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago) link
I rarely talk to anyone about rap offline, except for my best friend, who mostly hears about stuff through me. Basically most of the people I currently know who are into rap are herbs who look at me sideways for ever having liked Jay-Z. Hard to sell those types on Waka Flocka Flame, you know?
describes my situation pretty much exactly, except my one best friend is getting pretty exasperated with ignant rap, (*sighs* again with the oj da juiceman dude?) everyone loves plugging my i-pod into the car speakers when we drive around but it would never occur to any of them to listen to any of it independently or in any other context.
i had the impression it was different in america, though. i live in canada so i get pretty much no exposure to rap zeitgeist besides drake or kid cudi or electro djs doing a milli remixes, i was under the impression that this shit got spread around. like not necessarily big krit, but boosie and jeezy-level dudes must be on the radio somewhere, right? to people here stupid fruity crazy swag rap is as much of a hipster fetish as noise rock.
― tmi finney (samosa gibreel), Thursday, 15 April 2010 20:44 (fourteen years ago) link
I live in the Northwest, which culturally might as well be Canada.
It's worth noting that Jeezy, who does get played on the radio here, is much more popular than Boosie.
― gucci mane leflaur leflah eshkoshka (The Reverend), Thursday, 15 April 2010 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.complex.com/blog_galleries/style-history-the-diplomats/
― Kyrgyham (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Thursday, 15 April 2010 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link
i can't even imagine how many no homos and pauses the complex staff is gonna try and shoehorn into that piece
― hoosalah (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 15 April 2010 22:17 (fourteen years ago) link
there's hardly any text in fact, but they missed out not using my dn for a headline
― neveragl story (zvookster), Thursday, 15 April 2010 22:24 (fourteen years ago) link
The Game kind of murders "400 Bars."
― rennavate, Thursday, 15 April 2010 22:51 (fourteen years ago) link
Between this and that new single from yesterday, I'm almost ready to be excited about a Game album for the first time in my life.http://www.megaupload.com/?d=X936OORX
― Bait Goin' Ham (makeitpop), Thursday, 15 April 2010 23:03 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm not sure I've ever actually heard The Game murder 16 bars.
― some dude, Thursday, 15 April 2010 23:34 (fourteen years ago) link
he plead down to involuntary manslaughter
― fischer-price my first chukkas (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 15 April 2010 23:35 (fourteen years ago) link
lmfao
― neveragl story (zvookster), Thursday, 15 April 2010 23:35 (fourteen years ago) link
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, April 15, 2010 3:18 AM (15 hours ago) Bookmark
yeah i agree w/ this obv but another way to think of it is that when u are writing about music you are trying to communicate what things you think while hearing it that you think other people will identify with -- much as the artist has an audience, you do too. so being like, "i can see how this can connect with people outside of a, b, c" is interesting to me -- its such a difft way of thinking about music than trad music writing focusing on always being a reaction to 'the mainstream' or 'corporate rock' or whatever else
― The BoyBoy Big HOO$ (deej), Thursday, 15 April 2010 23:40 (fourteen years ago) link
Dude, I'm pretty sure all of the music writers who post itt try to do that.
― gucci mane leflaur leflah eshkoshka (The Reverend), Friday, 16 April 2010 00:38 (fourteen years ago) link
i didnt say they werent rev. im pointing out that imo, it matters how popular things are -- not to quality per se, but to how u write about stuff
― The BoyBoy Big HOO$ (deej), Friday, 16 April 2010 00:42 (fourteen years ago) link
Of course.
― gucci mane leflaur leflah eshkoshka (The Reverend), Friday, 16 April 2010 00:45 (fourteen years ago) link
above a certain level, sure, but few of the artists we're discussing have actually reached that level - popularity becomes an interesting thing when a rapper gets the kind of traction gucci got last year, or minaj is getting now. not whatever husalah or yelawolf are getting! that's more buzz from the uh cognoscenti, which would indicate quality.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 16 April 2010 00:51 (fourteen years ago) link
basically, we in canada and seattle and the UK really don't have any idea how popular rapper X is vs rapper Y beneath, say, the current minaj level, and to an extent have to take that on faith, but it doesn't really factor into how we hear their music
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 16 April 2010 00:53 (fourteen years ago) link
the only 16 bars that the game ever murdered was SNICKERS BARS on HALLOWEEN
― hoosalah (J0rdan S.), Friday, 16 April 2010 01:30 (fourteen years ago) link
"300 Bars" is classic for all time imo
― gucci mane leflaur leflah eshkoshka (The Reverend), Friday, 16 April 2010 01:33 (fourteen years ago) link
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, April 15, 2010 8:53 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i found out minaj was popular when my little sister came home talking about her one day
― tmi finney (samosa gibreel), Friday, 16 April 2010 02:21 (fourteen years ago) link
was pretty adorable actually, she asked me if "pussy on ya sideburns" meant that it was sexist
― tmi finney (samosa gibreel), Friday, 16 April 2010 02:22 (fourteen years ago) link
what would prob be sexist would be if i suggested that since her gestures saying this line demonstrate that she doesn't know what it means, she has a ghostwriter
― crying nagl (zvookster), Friday, 16 April 2010 02:40 (fourteen years ago) link
pussy on your mustache would make more sense though, uh, geometrically speaking
― tmi finney (samosa gibreel), Friday, 16 April 2010 02:54 (fourteen years ago) link
girl got a thing for ears
― forksclovetofu, Friday, 16 April 2010 03:03 (fourteen years ago) link
beam me up ferengi
― crying nagl (zvookster), Friday, 16 April 2010 03:04 (fourteen years ago) link
or nicki's ghostwriter's got a thing for puttin his ear where it dunn belong.
― tmi finney (samosa gibreel), Friday, 16 April 2010 03:22 (fourteen years ago) link
I just got an idea for a really terrifying photoshop that I'm not going to attempt.
― gucci mane leflaur leflah eshkoshka (The Reverend), Friday, 16 April 2010 03:24 (fourteen years ago) link
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k152/malcatrazz/sideburns.jpg
― tmi finney (samosa gibreel), Friday, 16 April 2010 03:31 (fourteen years ago) link
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― gucci mane leflaur leflah eshkoshka (The Reverend), Friday, 16 April 2010 03:31 (fourteen years ago) link
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― crying nagl (zvookster), Friday, 16 April 2010 03:32 (fourteen years ago) link
i swear ever since i adopted this dn it has haunted me with every post.
― crying nagl (zvookster), Friday, 16 April 2010 03:38 (fourteen years ago) link
sorry for that btw
*hangs head*
― government meme (samosa gibreel), Friday, 16 April 2010 03:46 (fourteen years ago) link
lool @ currensy
http://www.theplanesgotit.com/2010/04/wiz-khalifa-x-curreny-x-mtv.html
― gucci mane leflaur leflah eshkoshka (The Reverend), Friday, 16 April 2010 04:00 (fourteen years ago) link