rolling stupid fruity crazy swag thread

i wish listening to the new Game song was what was making you scream FUCK OTTAWA

deej's JACKA POX in no order

1. Jacka feat. Akata - Turned Out (Action)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtWYhDQIEhA
they must be worried cuz i got my beam
fifty cal bird out at night but its not a owl
yeah ya see my teeth from the light but thats not a smile
sparks flash bright out the tip of the silencer
thugs in every trap carry cuz its a violent earth
know what im sayin
smoked a pound of purp last night, but im still hurt
keep shit on the back of my mind, but memories lurk
sometimes

2. is that you
3. kuran
4. paper non stop
5. glamorous lifestyle
6. african warrior
7. reign god
8. sicilian breeze (m.i.a.)
9. i live the life
10. aspen

haha i almost blew a gasket when i thought you were posting 10 youtubes

me 2 :-)

jacka records to get:

1. 'rockist' classic record by Major Artist as Reflection Of His Auteurist Vision: The Jack Artist
2. popists' comp of a bunch of his best tracks from a wide variety of sources: shooterz mixtape
3. jacka tries new producers & works with stylistically diverse production: the street album mixtape
4. jacka on a couple tracks but this comp is super-consistent & gives you a good idea of why husalah & ap9 are dope also: mob trial I presented by andre nickatina

i dunno thats a pretty broad overview. i have a lot more to say about dude but ppl need to start paying me for ilx posts at that pt

i wish listening to the new Game song was what was making you scream FUCK OTTAWA

― sipster cuppies (some dude), Wednesday, April 14, 2010 5:51 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

No it's Chris Neil that makes me scream FUCK OTTAWA. And you'd think being from Edmonton I'd be cheering for the Canadian team...

yeah noz's piece about wiz's d.c. show being all packed and beatlemania surprised me, like i said when i was thinking about going to the baltimore show i didn't really expect there to be much of a turnout. i know blog rap isn't just blog rap anymore but it's so hard to tell what's actually resonating out there until you see evidence.

― sipster cuppies (some dude), Wednesday, April 14, 2010 6:45 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

doesnt he explicitly make the point that dude isnt really blog rap at all -- that no one he talked to at the show had heard of dude from blogs

husalah POV (both of these btw are subject to change) (i'll do a POX when i get home -- im doing this shit from my friends place right now while hes in the can)

1. laid back slap
2. sleep with da fishes
3. frozen heart (<---imo shoulda been the 'exhibit c' for this scene)
4. husalah shine
5. gear

'pray for you' is imo classic dope great amazing but u kinda have to accept going into it that its one of husalah's weirder/less rappy-rap traxxx ... its a track for folx who are already convinced by his persona, not a good introduction

doesnt he explicitly make the point that dude isnt really blog rap at all -- that no one he talked to at the show had heard of dude from blogs

― The BoyBoy Big HOO$ (deej), Wednesday, April 14, 2010 7:59 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah that was my point...i would've just mentally filed him in the blog bin since his only minor radio hit was like 2 years ago, but apparently his shit is out there resonating with people, and i wouldn't have guessed.

yeah i mean this is basically my argument w/ **RAPPER NAME WITHDRAWN** that i feel like ive been making a lot lately ... w/out the charts really representing popularity its so easy for us to have no concept of the shape of modern popular rap. youd think charles hamilton was a bigger figure, or that currency isnt a borderline star

jacka tracks you forgot IMO (prob my top 3 jacka songs)

wont be right
iller clip
addiction

I really don't care if the rappers I like are ACTUALLY popular, I just care that I like them.

'slike, if your verses aren't likely to be sampled in the next girl talk album why am i even wasting my time listening to your mixtapes

i think u are fronting if yr acting like how the world perceives yr fav stars isnt inextricably tied up w/ how you perceive them.

that presumes i talk to anyone but you guys about these artists or that i know anyone else who's heard of them

everything you read about them & everything you hear about from us is filtered thru layers & layers of ~~~~context~~~~~ bro. its what we debate about all day basically

i mean rap is a form where the artists are totally in dialogue w/ their own context all the time -- you cant just be like 'oh i just listen to it for the pretty sounds' when yr rapper is distinctly rapping "LIVE ON STAGE THE HOES YELLING MY NAME" -- not saying u have to BELIEVE him but if u want to talk w/ me about rap you better take rappers on that level where what they are saying enters into the discussion

i dunno man, i can't entirely parse that.
obvs i'm paying attention to lyrics and "what they are saying" but that's not the same as seeing it through the eyes of the world at large or of a rap blog in particular
anyways i mostly just click the youtubes and dl songs so my overarching context is "somebody thinks this is pretty good"
longer more in-depth artist-specific ILM conversations lose me a bit, but that's hardly rap specific
but i'm the first to say i'm a dilettante in the NEW RAP OF THE MOMENT (and most all musical) fields; i'm trying to hear as much of whatever's out there and that can mean i have limited interest in trying to drill deep to things that are not ringing a bell

like the distinction between jacka and pill for me is that pill spurred instant interest on a first listen to an album and jacka was somewhat less so. I do like 'all over me' a lot though and will be trying again.

wont be right
iller clip
addiction

― Kyrgyham (surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally), Wednesday, April 14, 2010 7:31 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

yeah it should go w/out saying that any of these could go into my top ten at any pt

i agree with rev to a point -- obv i like shit that pretty much spans the spectrum of popularity -- but what im trying to say in that difficult-to-parse para. is that the way we as fans & the artists as well talk about their music both outside it & within is v. clearly i think all related to issues of 'popularity' & purpose and how artist x should be more popular & artist y less so (or less celebrated, or more accurately described, or whatever) & that this is what 99% of the discussion around here/ disagreements come down to.

i also just think its important to have some perspective on how popular artist are w/ other people, because music is social

i mean especially ESPECIALLY if u want to write about music, rev. Who do you want to write for? writers writing for writers is a waste, imo, x1000 when it comes to music writing

is currensy really a borderline star? that sounds kind of absurd

Yeah, how are we defining "borderline" star?

Also, if anyone's bothered to listen to those B.o.B snippets, "The Kids" sounds like a complete swipe of Vampire Weekend's "The Kids Don't Stand a Chance."

ppl know curren$y because of wayne, and he raps w/ a looot of different folks -- he has cross-country appeal, is def one of the broader-demographic'd rappers out there, is lyrical but has that wiz khalifa audience (noz mentions that the kids he talked to mentioned hearing about wiz cuz he worked with currensy, who worked with wayne)

& heres something we can all enjoy !!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTtW7eHjyPo

DJ Crazy Toones & WC - Frontline prod. by Terrace Martin

XDDDDDDDDDD

This is sickness.

Five minutes of pure spitting. Wow. That's all there is to say: wow.

i mean especially ESPECIALLY if u want to write about music, rev. Who do you want to write for? writers writing for writers is a waste, imo, x1000 when it comes to music writing

― The BoyBoy Big HOO$ (deej), Wednesday, April 14, 2010 10:26 PM Bookmark

Of course when writing about musicians, one has to relate them to the broader contexts within which they operate, but when listening to something for my own pleasure, it's not a huge concern.

Unfortunately, my own music experience is currently not very social. I rarely talk to anyone about rap offline, except for my best friend, who mostly hears about stuff through me. Basically most of the people I currently know who are into rap are herbs who look at me sideways for ever having liked Jay-Z. Hard to sell those types on Waka Flocka Flame, you know? If this detracts from my abilities as a music writer, not much I can do about it.

yeah i have no idea of what's popular cuz we don't have rap radio here \(o_O)/

We have rap radio here but it never plays rap.

Unless B.o.B. featuring some Vanessa Carlton lookin boy counts.

thx for the jacka/husalah top 10s deej!

my sense of rappers' popularity is all screwed up anyway, so the ones who grab me are those with an easily identifiable thing they do beyond engaging with their context - vocal or lyrical personality, basically - which is kind of an intangible, case-by-case quality. a lot of the rappers i've got super into over the years i hadn't particularly noticed the first 4-5 times i heard them, and then something clicks. but i literally have no idea of which rappers are popular on the charts vs popular on the street vs popular here; everyone i talk to about hip-hop (you guys, the few IRL people i know who care) cherrypicks their favourites. when i realised b.o.b. was at no 2 or whatever i just went UHHHH WHAT because not one person i know ever mentions him (inc here!).

i get the impression that "popularity" is increasingly hard to get a handle on even if you're in the right social context, anyway - cf noz tweeting about nicki minaj the other night, and it seemed that no one could even agree whether she had buzz around her or not.

i've never been the "report what's popular" kind of journalist - predicting the Next Big Thing is a mug's game imo - but "report what's good" seems to do me well enough. still proud that my featurette on minaj last may was basically the first time her name was mentioned in a UK publication, and now look where she is.

'Frontline' is a good time.

DUB C HOL. LEE. SHIT.

that's the hottest shit i've heard in fucking forever!

hot damn.

around 4:37 or so he almost verges into a OG west coast version of "broken language"

unreal.

YYYYEEEEHAW

http://www.skicarstunt.com/gl_jump2_w.jpg

damn, son.

New Yelawolf, from some Cypress Hill tribute mixtape
http://www.mediafire.com/?jzyotq1zxkz

lol i never realised husalah's name was as in hustler - had been pronouncing it as though it was an arabic name

some of the beats on this mob trial comp are seriously O_O - happy to hear the hyperactivity i loved about hyphy still latent in bay area rap

lol hus-allah

dying @ hus-allah

lol i never realised husalah's name was as in hustler - had been pronouncing it as though it was an arabic name

i thought this for weeks! and thought it was a v pretty name on some "i might call my kid husalah", the penny dropping was a let-down

jacka if it's a girl

it is Hus allah, it's both joe

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_LEghlft43kU/Sdu_iqJPYjI/AAAAAAAAAbc/nzpNlEqK7CI/s400/790327.jpg

HOOS-allah

They pronounce it pretty straightforward here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yl7jSiWWOk&fmt=18

Any suggestions on where to start with Mob Figaz as a group, or are the solo albums the only ones worth hearing?

I rarely talk to anyone about rap offline, except for my best friend, who mostly hears about stuff through me. Basically most of the people I currently know who are into rap are herbs who look at me sideways for ever having liked Jay-Z. Hard to sell those types on Waka Flocka Flame, you know?

describes my situation pretty much exactly, except my one best friend is getting pretty exasperated with ignant rap, (*sighs* again with the oj da juiceman dude?) everyone loves plugging my i-pod into the car speakers when we drive around but it would never occur to any of them to listen to any of it independently or in any other context.

i had the impression it was different in america, though. i live in canada so i get pretty much no exposure to rap zeitgeist besides drake or kid cudi or electro djs doing a milli remixes, i was under the impression that this shit got spread around. like not necessarily big krit, but boosie and jeezy-level dudes must be on the radio somewhere, right? to people here stupid fruity crazy swag rap is as much of a hipster fetish as noise rock.