An album is like a book title (itals) and a song is like a poem (quotes) -- that's how I remember.
― Laurel, Thursday, 13 September 2007 20:38 (sixteen years ago) link
cool, that's what i "thought"
― Jordan, Thursday, 13 September 2007 20:38 (sixteen years ago) link
With punctuation outside the quotation marks, because who would really respect one inside "I Walk The Line"?
― Eazy, Thursday, 13 September 2007 20:38 (sixteen years ago) link
Hmmm. Askoxford.com is inconclusive:
The form an for the indefinite article is used before a spoken vowel sound, regardless of how the written word is spelt. If you say 'an otel' when speaking (which is now often regarded as distinctly old-fashioned), then it may be appropriate for you to write 'an hotel'; but most people say 'hotel' with a sounded 'h', and should write 'a hotel'.
By contrast, words such as 'honour', 'heir' or 'hour' in which the 'h' sound is dropped are written with 'an'.
-- CharlieNo4, Tuesday, April 24, 2007 6:03 AM (4 months ago) Bookmark Link
I think the BBC decided that it's "An Hotel", weirdly.
-- the next grozart, Tuesday, April 24, 2007 6:12 AM (4 months ago) Bookmark Link
There was another recent thread all about ans and as (what is the best way to write that, by the way, "an"s and "a"s?) and aspirated hs, Charlie. Can't rememeber what it was called.
I think "an historical" etc is widely deprecated, yes, though it seems to be one of those hypercorrective things that people do to try to sound right. I can't believe you really want to write "an hotel". Why?
-- Alba, Tuesday, April 24, 2007 6:39 AM (4 months ago) Bookmark Link
in the same way an American might write "an herb" i suppose; or indeed in the same way i'd write "an honour".
-- CharlieNo4, Tuesday, April 24, 2007 6:43 AM (4 months ago) Bookmark Link
― jaymc, Thursday, 13 September 2007 20:40 (sixteen years ago) link
Peaches and an Herb
― Eazy, Thursday, 13 September 2007 20:41 (sixteen years ago) link
Wait, we've been through this, because I posted "an" and a photo from WKRP sometime in 2006.
― Eazy, Thursday, 13 September 2007 20:44 (sixteen years ago) link
Hahah. Isn't the exception for "historical" done because of the word "ahistorical", meaning, not historical at all? That is what has been exlpained to me but I'm suspicious and stick with an.
― Laurel, Thursday, 13 September 2007 20:44 (sixteen years ago) link
Er, sorry, I meant to say that I stick with a.
― Laurel, Thursday, 13 September 2007 20:47 (sixteen years ago) link
I'd never heard that, Laurel. And I'm not sure it holds up because you're more likely to pronounce the "a" in front of "historical" (and related words) as "uh": "uh historic moment," "uh historian of the Civil War."
xpost Good. I was about to say.
― jaymc, Thursday, 13 September 2007 20:48 (sixteen years ago) link
Anna's an anorexic.
― Eazy, Thursday, 13 September 2007 20:50 (sixteen years ago) link
Ahistorical - you think this shit just dropped right out of the sky My analysis: it's time to harvest the crust from your eyes To surge and refine, to rage and define ourselves against your line So sorry friend but you must resign You want to figure it out we'll throw down, we'll throw down Wou want to figure it out well throw down your bulldog front Bold bold mouthtalking not so bold now that you've eaten your own Lips flecked, mouthspecked you strip the skin right off of the bone And I would never say you act without precision or care, But it's all attention to armor, to the armor you wear so well Let's knock and check to see if there's somebody home
― dan m, Thursday, 13 September 2007 20:52 (sixteen years ago) link
Re pronounciation of "a", I doubt "uh" is any more likely to be used before historic than any other word. I'm not up on my regional linguistics hallmarks, but isnt the ay/uh distinction partly geographic?
― Laurel, Thursday, 13 September 2007 20:57 (sixteen years ago) link
WTF
MarryOurDaughter
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:03 (sixteen years ago) link
I doubt "uh" is any more likely to be used before historic than any other word.
Agree with you there. I'm unaware who actually pronounces "a" as "ay" in contexts other than wanting to emphasize the word.
The distinction between "thuh" and "thee" has to do with whether it's before a vowel or not, but "a" has already solved that with "an."
― jaymc, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:03 (sixteen years ago) link
oh wow
Marry Our Daughter is an introduction service assisting those following the Biblical tradition of arranging marriages for their Daughters.
― dan m, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:04 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh, I meant to mention this to John earlier, but there is this essay/review of a book about e-mail etiquette, and it talks about why exclamation marks are more common in e-mail than in other forms of writing.
Also for some reason I thought of John when I read about this book.
― Eazy, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:05 (sixteen years ago) link
ok holy shit @ marryourdaughter
Kyra likes the outdoors, more the open air of the beach or the desert than the woods. She would love to live somewhere away from it all. She is bright and funny and full of life and while she has little direct experience with the opposite sex we have made sure she is aware of everything she needs to know to be a good wife and mother.
― river wolf, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:07 (sixteen years ago) link
Kristin has a wild streak. She likes parties and has spent more time with boys than we’d have liked her to. We had a family talk and decided that it was time she settled down with a man who could meet her needs and help her fulfill her dreams of being an actor or singer. She’s a bit fiery but worth it.
Is that "Marry Our Daughter" thing a joke? It has to be, right?!
― sweet tater, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:08 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't think it's a joke.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:08 (sixteen years ago) link
"Sarah calls herself a Goth but we insisted she not dress in black for this photo. She reads and writes a lot of depressing poetry and it takes a lot to get her nose out of a book. She says she’s an Old Soul in a new young body and she’s already been married lots of times and she might die again tomorrow so why wait?"
OH YEAH
― Laurel, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:09 (sixteen years ago) link
RW, your prayers are answered.
― Laurel, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link
When I was a kid my parents would always watch The McNeil/Lehrer News Hour. I, of course, thought it was boring as hell. Once I counted all the "uhh"s, "um"s, etc from all the guests and the hosts. I don't recall the exact number but there were several hundred.
xposts: hm, some googling indicates it may be a prank
― dan m, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link
okay maybe it's a joke
― horseshoe, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:11 (sixteen years ago) link
EZ- We are going to be homebodies again (well, going on a walk and checking out the guitar nick posted/ going to library..)! Thanks for the idea though (and you too, deej).
Kristin has a wild streak. She likes parties and has spent more time with boys than we’d have liked her to. We’re a Christian family and Cheyenne has had trouble with unchristian desires although at heart we know she's a good Christian girl. WHAAA?
― KitCat, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:11 (sixteen years ago) link
the goth one is ridiculous
That's a better review of Send than the one that appeared in Slate.
― jaymc, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:11 (sixteen years ago) link
It better be a joke, there's a 13-yr old on here.
― Laurel, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:11 (sixteen years ago) link
How does one determine their price? One of the girls is just over $99K whereas one is just under $6K. Is that the price of virginity?!
I think it HAS to be a joke.
― sweet tater, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:12 (sixteen years ago) link
no way that's real sorry
― La Lechera, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:12 (sixteen years ago) link
sorry GENTLEMEN INTERESTED IN 15 year old MARTHA STEWARTSES
― La Lechera, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:13 (sixteen years ago) link
http://digg.com/tech_news/MarryOurDaughter_com_is_a_Prank
― dan m, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:13 (sixteen years ago) link
-- Laurel, Thursday, September 13, 2007 9:10 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link
finally!
― river wolf, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:13 (sixteen years ago) link
The site design is pretty hip-tastic, I suspect aspiring graphic designers.
― Laurel, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:13 (sixteen years ago) link
Is it some kind of internet performance art?
― sweet tater, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:14 (sixteen years ago) link
Not real according to Urban Legends page.
― KitCat, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:14 (sixteen years ago) link
I love reading transcripts of speech with all the "uh"s and "um"s included.
― jaymc, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:14 (sixteen years ago) link
MarryOurDaughter is a great hoax, though, inasmuch as it preys on our willingness to believe the worst about Christian fundamentalists.
― jaymc, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:17 (sixteen years ago) link
I figured it was totally fake, but I figured it would be worth a look anyway.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:17 (sixteen years ago) link
Surely no one has ever married their daughter off at a young age in order to keep her out of trouble, no.
― Laurel, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:18 (sixteen years ago) link
jaymc otm :-/
― river wolf, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:18 (sixteen years ago) link
I mean, we don't believe that stuff for no reason at all, there's at least a reasonable amount of weirdness to go on.
And according to the NYT.
― KitCat, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:19 (sixteen years ago) link
Mr. Ordover is a science-fiction editor with a prankish history and an interest in urban nudism. YES
― La Lechera, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:20 (sixteen years ago) link
HA! By the same dude that did technicalvirgin.com.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:20 (sixteen years ago) link
an interest in urban nudism an interest in urban nudism an interest in urban nudism an interest in urban nudism an interest in urban nudism
totally different from suburban and rural nudism
― dan m, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:21 (sixteen years ago) link
It's broken glass-ier.
― Laurel, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:21 (sixteen years ago) link
Dov Cheney?
― jaymc, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:21 (sixteen years ago) link
Charney.
― jaymc, Thursday, 13 September 2007 21:22 (sixteen years ago) link