rolling stupid fruity crazy swag thread

it stands for "poor homo"

also 'shutterbug' is incredible

can't believe u dropped in just to say that a hoy hoy u douchebag

i'm listening to pavement RIGHT NOW

it feels so good to be back on the cutting edge of hip hop

these "jokes" aren't getting any less horribly formed.

btw m@t the nation of millions 33 1/3 shld be like catnip to u i think, check the 33 1/3 thread

ah yeah i should check this out, thx!

...sorry to ruin this awesome discussion :)

:P

he sampled band of horses once

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, April 13, 2010 12:07 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

I'm really wondering if it's Lil B that's familiar with indie acts like Band of Horses and Imogen Heap (maybe not indie but whatever) or it's just his producer who likes them, samples them, and is like, "Hey B, this is dope shit, rap over it!" Unless B produces his own shit, in which case, never mind...

i think b does his own beats pretty much exclusively -- can't imagine a producer would be able to keep up with him

That's a good point. And pretty cool.

Also, I'm listening to Snoop and Kid Cudi's "That Tree"... WTF this is hilarious and great.

saw the video, smh

Yeah it's retarded but it's fun. And the song is, too.

cudi is rapping like he thought his verse was gonna be autotuned later, but it's not...i never thought about how that could happen, but i guess if you're so used to it you start to tailor your lines to the autotune environment

it's a pretty good song, i must say -- cudi is such a bad, droney singer -- wish someone else was on that

But that's how Cudi raps. He has this weird sing-song flow all the time... Has any of his actual verses ever been Auto-Tuned?

But that's how Cudi raps

and therein lies the problem

Oh I don't disagree. I think it works sometimes, but it often doesn't. I kind of like his hooks, though.

Also, Mannie Fresh's "Like a Boss" is DEFINITELY going on my summer mix. House pianos, baby!

yeah, great song

New Chuckie Hamilton... Cars sampling... and, not half bad! Maybe I'm just in a good mood.

thought that was okay

But that's how Cudi raps. He has this weird sing-song flow all the time... Has any of his actual verses ever been Auto-Tuned?

― rennavate, Tuesday, April 13, 2010 9:24 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i guess not? i'm not an expert on Cudi...was just saying that I think he's like unconsciously picking up phrasing that is a result of auto-tune stuff and then NOT autotuning it, like maybe he just gets it from listening to kanye or wayne or drake or whoever....just a little weird structural thing, like i can HEAR those lines being autotuned

is the chick that punched charles hamilton ever going to release an album?

"hear somebody comin" is super dope

yeah as someone who has never heard anything of note in a Pill song before i have to say that sounded good to me

working with tha bizness is a good look

i basically dislike Pill, no need to couch it in 'hes good but's the way i do w/ freddie gibbs or whoever. just the way he punches words is corny. BOOZER. ugh

i can't be hospitable if deej is profitable

is "hear somebody comin" charting or something? why are we talking about that?

j0rdan singled it out as a jam is all

i think?

it's gonna be on jukebox this week

which is why i even listened to it today

something about him is just trying so hard. its like dude, no need to be manic all the time

calling himself a caped crusader & shit ... what? so nerdy. about to call the zoo cuz monkeys are missing? redecorate their wardrobe and go get a facelift? wtf is this song even about

a full grown dog ima pull on yall <--- its just that hes like the least visceral lyricist ever & even his internal rhymes & intricacies sound stiff to me

i don't think it's about anything per se

the lines you quote have pretty obvious meanings

i just get the feeling (no shots) (per se) that ppl are latching onto, like, hey a steady stream of words -- he must be a good rapper. this reductive kind of view, the same basic thing that had ppl hating on too short for years or whatever. this is 'smart southern rap' even though hes mentioning the same stuff as insert-'ignorant'-southern-rapper-here just with less panache & more lines like "ho-checker you can call me scan-tron pimping / military mind gave her antwon fishing / handgun risen when its all about the digits"

i know what those lines i quoted mean, i said they're extremely un-visceral -- they dont make me feel anything, all cerebrally indicating meaning instead of creating it -- i like this line hemingway had about how he knew he was onto something when he stopped describing things & started creating, Pill raps feel like describing to me

hes like the least visceral lyricist ever & even his internal rhymes & intricacies sound stiff to me i think this is kinda true here, it's like self-consciously technical

im also not that into the beat which isnt helping -- ill be way more forgiving of a track w/ some drama or whatever to it

i dig him cuz he leans pretty close to ignorant southern rap

i agree that he's not great at imagery -- i like tho that he comes off as a bit of a writer -- i agree that it leads to lines like, uh, "antwan fishing" or w/e that are a bit nonsensical

also he writes good songs

i just get the feeling (no shots) (per se) that ppl are latching onto, like, hey a steady stream of words -- he must be a good rapper. this reductive kind of view, the same basic thing that had ppl hating on too short for years or whatever.

this is true but he was getting "lyrically lyrical" love before this tape, so it could be helpful to think of it as a mixtape exercise rather than pandering.

deej you've always made fair criticism of pill tho

& yeah, you're right about him being seen as a "smart" southerner or whatever by nah right types (krit is getting the same type of looks now too)

(not bringing this up to compare rappers on butthurt ringtone thread beef or whatever -- just using this as an excuse to talk about the kind of rapping im into lately -- also relates to rtc's v. real problems w/ listening to rick ross for extended periods)

difft strokes -- i mean the thing i love abt jacka is the way his writing seems to indicate a whole bunch of shit between the lines, (speaking of hemingway) iceberg theory style. i mean its not like he doesnt have stuff that i dont catch/get/doesnt make sense ever, but theres this feeling/mood to the writing itself ... im not saying hes flawless, but it really catches u up in it in a way i dont get from this. & when hes playing with melody in a rap verse & pauses & phrasing, it all contributes to this atmospheric purpose, like, its hard to explain w/out being able to listen to the verse (not on youtube) but one of my favorite jacka verses is off mobshit from 'jack of all trades':

i scrape the streets, fuck peace, i got hella shit thatll leave you hella stiff
yuh-oh,
hundred-round drum sit round top the calico
yuh-oh, niggas come from Cali yo
ya say its thug everywhere but it ain't the same,
nuh-oh, cuz errybody got a thang
put one in the 'cham, cant catch ya drain (?), slugs faster than a train that'll splat ya
got ya brains on the seven-inch screen i woke up this mornin so yo i know its not a dream
now i gotta shower for an hour no trace of the gunpowder, no trace of the rollo
cleanin out bottles of remy just to hide the thought of this nigga
layin on his back leakin a river

its like, the way the verse twists around at the end from being just **where we are is more street than where u are** into a (important point here:) SUBTLE narrative twist (vs. say davinci's abortion song or WHAT IM TALKIN BOUT YALL IS HIP HOP) where u realize the violence has a psychological impact (or if yr a dude who isnt into that sorta thing, can just enjoy on a violent fantasy badass level) although its always implied & never explicit, lets the listener bring his own shit to it, & implies some kind of moral torment over the thuggish mentality etc

the way a verse that short really hits is also tied into his delivery -- transcribing his lyrics doesnt work bcuz theres definitely a performing dimension to them -- my favorite little detail is the way he shifts from cleaning himself off to using the word 'cleaning' -- to refer to what hes doing to the bottles of remy to forget the murder he committed. feels nicely subtly artful imo